Millsap at 30 and Skal at 18 on average. If Skal becomes a monster as you put it, then good for Sac. You trying to say is going to become an all-star this coming year? Not very realistic. Needs time. As in, when the Millsap contract is up, Skal may be that guy. I look at it this way. What about Fox actually aging someone reliable to work with......an actual all-star to help in his development.
Vet free agents and filling out the roster
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You think Millsap (unless it's a straight money grab) is going to come to Sac to play fringe starter minutes to eventually be supplanted by a 2nd year player?
For $150 Million dollars I'd rather hire each of the rookies their own personal mentor, chef, motivational speaker, driver, nutritionist, personal trainer, dentist, doctor, masseuse, and manicurist.
For $150 Million dollars I'd rather hire each of the rookies their own personal mentor, chef, motivational speaker, driver, nutritionist, personal trainer, dentist, doctor, masseuse, and manicurist.
Yes. Millsap played 36.5 MPG last year.
Here is the list, the players at 30 MPG are all bench players, or players who have severe deficiencies in their game either offensively or defensively.
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/minutes/sort/avgMinutes/qualified/false/count/41
Here is the list, the players at 30 MPG are all bench players, or players who have severe deficiencies in their game either offensively or defensively.
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/minutes/sort/avgMinutes/qualified/false/count/41
https://twitter.com/mr_jasonjones/status/880849737011707904
I'm not opposed to Lawson returning assuming that his legal issues are settled and behind him.
I'm not opposed to Lawson returning assuming that his legal issues are settled and behind him.
This Millsap thing smells like a Vivek thing to me. He can't let go of this win now idea. I'm not opposed to winning, or even winning now, but do it within the concepts of a plan. Two or three years from, going after a Millsap type player might make some sense, but now, it's nothing but bells and whistles. You don't need to pay 30 plus mil a year for a veteran mentor.
If Vivek is trying to "win now" he's got a strange way of showing it. According to that line of thinking he would have to believe a team comprised of 75% youngins is going to win now. (I'd like to ask his analytics guy what the historical average win percentage is for teams that have 75% of it's players 25 years of age or younger
). Vivek may have his faults, but he's not delusional.
). Vivek may have his faults, but he's not delusional.
If Vivek is trying to "win now" he's got a strange way of showing it. According to that line of thinking he would have to believe a team comprised of 75% youngins is going to win now. (I'd like to ask his analytics guy what the historical average win percentage is for teams that have 75% of it's players 25 years of age or younger). Vivek may have his faults, but he's not delusional.
). Vivek may have his faults, but he's not delusional.
Heck, you thought he was delusional to hand basketball operations over to a guy like Divac who had little to no experience.
I don't think we want to gamble too much on Vivek NOT being delusional.
I don't think it's that he can't learn. He's obviously a bright guy. It's that he comes across as a guy who always thinks he's the smartest guy in the room.
He also laid all the blame for the Malone firing at PDA & Mully's feet and through Petrie under the bus the next season in an interview where he was trying to absolve himself for the missteps so far. And then had to retract his statements when Petrie came out and said he was lying.
A big ego and a lack of personal accountability is what I've see so far. And while he's been less visible and it's possible he's been humbled and learned a lot, there's no proof that he has. If anything, the rumbles and rumors about basketball ops and around Granger's unfortunate departure have largely suggested the opposite.
Sometimes I think maybe I'm holding too much of a grudge over things like "Stauskas? Stauskas?" and calling him Klay Curry but then I hear Buddy Hield say that Vivek told him early in the season that "we're still gonna get you" and then Ranadive say he thinks Buddy has Steph Curry potential.
Every time I think he's making progress and leaving things to his basketball people there's a story or quote about him still meddling and more evidence that he's still obsessed with the Warriors.
We may never know which one of us is right but I absolutely still don't trust him not to force the team to make stupid moves.
He also laid all the blame for the Malone firing at PDA & Mully's feet and through Petrie under the bus the next season in an interview where he was trying to absolve himself for the missteps so far. And then had to retract his statements when Petrie came out and said he was lying.
A big ego and a lack of personal accountability is what I've see so far. And while he's been less visible and it's possible he's been humbled and learned a lot, there's no proof that he has. If anything, the rumbles and rumors about basketball ops and around Granger's unfortunate departure have largely suggested the opposite.
Sometimes I think maybe I'm holding too much of a grudge over things like "Stauskas? Stauskas?" and calling him Klay Curry but then I hear Buddy Hield say that Vivek told him early in the season that "we're still gonna get you" and then Ranadive say he thinks Buddy has Steph Curry potential.
Every time I think he's making progress and leaving things to his basketball people there's a story or quote about him still meddling and more evidence that he's still obsessed with the Warriors.
We may never know which one of us is right but I absolutely still don't trust him not to force the team to make stupid moves.
Several reasons why this may or may not be true:
The more good PGs they are interested in, it may help drive down price for a Lawson or Collison or Teague or etc....I'm think Lawson on a cheaper contract would be ideal for them
If they really are interested in a Teague, then it hammers home the point that Joerger and staff believe that the young guys must earn everything they get to get the most out of them. I'm down with this scenario....it works.
The more good PGs they are interested in, it may help drive down price for a Lawson or Collison or Teague or etc....I'm think Lawson on a cheaper contract would be ideal for them
If they really are interested in a Teague, then it hammers home the point that Joerger and staff believe that the young guys must earn everything they get to get the most out of them. I'm down with this scenario....it works.
Ok. I didn't pay that much attention to Utah, but aren't they playing at the slowest pace of the whole league (93.6 in Pace stat per http://www.espn.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort/paceFactor)?
And I don't want to act like Aileen but Ingles doesn't look like a Gazelle.
But hey - I do agree, that he is a crafty basketball player.
And I don't want to act like Aileen but Ingles doesn't look like a Gazelle.
But hey - I do agree, that he is a crafty basketball player.
Ok. I didn't pay that much attention to Utah, but aren't they playing at the slowest pace of the whole league (93.6 in Pace stat per http://www.espn.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort/paceFactor)?
And I don't want to act like Aileen but Ingles doesn't look like a Gazelle.
But hey - I do agree, that he is a crafty basketball player.
And I don't want to act like Aileen but Ingles doesn't look like a Gazelle.
But hey - I do agree, that he is a crafty basketball player.
Both teams are defense oriented and try to maximize that by slowing down play.
Besides, being a transition team isn't about having the fastest guys. It's about having that mindset, rebounding and out letting the ball quickly and moving the ball by passing it rather than dribbling it.
The Showtime Lakers were one of the all time best transition teams and Magic wasn't exactly a speed demon and Kareem wasn't sprinting the floor like Willie.
