Demarcus Cousins
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I WANT another Sacbee outburst. Bring it on. He will not be domesticated and that is EXACTLY why the fans love him, and why his teammates adore him. He does not attack unless provoked. That reporter smeared his family, so hell yes you go get him. Now, he can learn to be more skillful in his verbal assassinations... but DO NOT EVER BACK DOWN.
The media bullies do not respond to tepid apologies. They will respond to counter punching. Ask Shaq, Barkley, KG, BIRD.... all of them knew how to fight the media in their day.
The media bullies do not respond to tepid apologies. They will respond to counter punching. Ask Shaq, Barkley, KG, BIRD.... all of them knew how to fight the media in their day.
and he wants to do it with us. To understand the inner workings of his brain, his episodes, you need to understand he absolutely lives his life by the code of of a spartan:
1. Loyalty
2. Family
3. Dedication
He wants to supersede Barkley who will never give boogie a fare shake given his closeness to becoming the greatest basketball player ever from Alabama - the only thing that Barkley currently has to hold on to.
The day we win with boogie i'm sitting court side with a custom tee - boogie dunking on Charles with the caption - Sir Boogie, the best from Bama.
Giving one to boogie for sure.
1. Loyalty
2. Family
3. Dedication
He wants to supersede Barkley who will never give boogie a fare shake given his closeness to becoming the greatest basketball player ever from Alabama - the only thing that Barkley currently has to hold on to.
The day we win with boogie i'm sitting court side with a custom tee - boogie dunking on Charles with the caption - Sir Boogie, the best from Bama.
Giving one to boogie for sure.
I personally don't believe he's a superstar. He's not a leader. The guy constantly complains, yells, and argues with refs all the time. It gets to the point where he'd rather stay back, and argue with a ref than actually get back on defense. It affects the way he plays, it affects his teammates. When your best player is constantly barking at refs instead of going back on defense, how would that make you feel? He's forcing his teammates to play 4v5 in this situation too. That's not a leader.
His attitude and body language has always been poor. When he feels like he's not getting his way, or getting his calls, he becomes extremely frustrated. Instead of trying to calm down and gather his teammates together, be constantly blows up. He leads the entire NBA in techs, and most of them are warranted. He gets away with not getting tech'd all the time too. His demeanor becomes extremely sucky. He lets his emotions get in the way of how he needs to play.
When's the last time you saw Steph get frustrated because things aren't going his way, so he starts committing dumb fouls, gets angry at refs, brings down his teammates, etc. Maybe once in 60 games? How often do you see this happen with Cousins? Once every 2-3 games?
Cousins is not a leader...and that's a reason why he's not a superstar. Cuz has been in the NBA for 6 years, but he's still extremely immature. Yesterday, he spit out his mouth piece at at the Blazers bench and Meyers Leonard. That's extremely childish and unprofessional. Yet, some people will continue to defend that in pathetic ways.
How the hell could you even defend this? https://streamable.com/f0buh
If you're not going to be a lead by example, then you're not a leader. You're not a superstar. It is what it is.
His attitude and body language has always been poor. When he feels like he's not getting his way, or getting his calls, he becomes extremely frustrated. Instead of trying to calm down and gather his teammates together, be constantly blows up. He leads the entire NBA in techs, and most of them are warranted. He gets away with not getting tech'd all the time too. His demeanor becomes extremely sucky. He lets his emotions get in the way of how he needs to play.
When's the last time you saw Steph get frustrated because things aren't going his way, so he starts committing dumb fouls, gets angry at refs, brings down his teammates, etc. Maybe once in 60 games? How often do you see this happen with Cousins? Once every 2-3 games?
Cousins is not a leader...and that's a reason why he's not a superstar. Cuz has been in the NBA for 6 years, but he's still extremely immature. Yesterday, he spit out his mouth piece at at the Blazers bench and Meyers Leonard. That's extremely childish and unprofessional. Yet, some people will continue to defend that in pathetic ways.
How the hell could you even defend this? https://streamable.com/f0buh
If you're not going to be a lead by example, then you're not a leader. You're not a superstar. It is what it is.
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I just watched the video facing the incident. He clearly spit it out and from the other angle he did it right to Meyers Leonard. I wouldn't be surprised if Cuz will be missing some games for that.
Demarcus just always seems to find a way to put his own foot in his mouth and take an otherwise great moment and tarnish it. Then again, that also both makes Demarcus who he is and is part of the reason he's entertaining to watch. The only issue I have is Cuz is starting to play the victim card in a way that will completely backfire on him because he's going to look dishonest even if he's somewhat justified in retaliating. You did it, own it, learn from it, or don't give a damn and keep doing it, but don't play the victim card because he'll be playing with fire on that one.
Demarcus just always seems to find a way to put his own foot in his mouth and take an otherwise great moment and tarnish it. Then again, that also both makes Demarcus who he is and is part of the reason he's entertaining to watch. The only issue I have is Cuz is starting to play the victim card in a way that will completely backfire on him because he's going to look dishonest even if he's somewhat justified in retaliating. You did it, own it, learn from it, or don't give a damn and keep doing it, but don't play the victim card because he'll be playing with fire on that one.
Now this is almost as awesome as what happened last night:
Sean Cunningham @SeanCunningham 3h3 hours ago
Good news for Kings fans and DeMarcus Cousins. The NBA has rescinded 2 of his technicals dropping him to 8. 11/27 @ BKN and 12/12 vs. LAL
Sean Cunningham @SeanCunningham 3h3 hours ago
Good news for Kings fans and DeMarcus Cousins. The NBA has rescinded 2 of his technicals dropping him to 8. 11/27 @ BKN and 12/12 vs. LAL
And this:
Kevin Fippin @kfippin 21m21 minutes ago
Last 2 min report from the "Mouthguard Gate" game is out! No incorrect calls
Kevin Fippin @kfippin 21m21 minutes ago
Last 2 min report from the "Mouthguard Gate" game is out! No incorrect calls
There may have been some guilt on their end as well. Letting Cuz get hammered all night long and then him finally having enough was partly on them. He didn't just do it for no reason, but he did it nonetheless. It certainly looked intentional and unfortunately for Cousins all that matters to a lot of people is what things look like even if it doesn't tell the whole story.
Last night was awesome and Boogie was incredible but let's set the record straight:
The original call was Boogie threw his mouthpiece and that was the reason for the tech. The ref saw the mouthpiece end up near the Blazers bench but was unsure if it was tossed by hand or fell out of his mouth. The ref asked Stotts if he threw his mouthpiece and Coach Stotts said "no". That's when the tech was rescinded and Boogie was called back. Boogie and the Kings were fortunate on at least two counts (1) Stotts was forthright with the ref. He could've said he didn't see it and the tech stands (2) The ref could have called Boogie for taunting. (3) It's unconceivable to say the mouthpiece fell from his mouth....he spit it out based on the trajectory it travelled so he could talk trash to Leonard.
Next, not sure if spitting your mouthpiece towards an opponent constitutes a tech, though it should, but I do know doing so in context of shouting obscenities at Leonard are grounds for tech, and this is exactly what happened per Leonard post-game. The refs grant more leeway in crunch time to allow emotion and celebratory response. But when you curse and spit your mouthpiece towards an opponent, that is enough unsportsmanlike conduct to get tech'd up. I don't care who the player is when it happens or whether the player has a sterling or tarnished reputation.
This is what is a bit disconcerting about Boogie's post-game reaction of "ridiculous....ridiculous....ridiculous". Boogie is convinced he is mistreated and refs are out to get him. Yet if you reconstruct the facts objectively, Boogie is fortunate he was allowed to stay in the game and make that timely shot block that sealed the win. If only one of three refs has eyeballs on Boogie after his and-one and in close enough vicinity in the raucous setting to hear what he yelled it becomes inarguable a technical foul is warranted. Does Boogie think spitting his mouthpiece and cursing an opponent is acceptable.... or wants to pretend it didn't happen?
Instead of saying "ridiculous" 27 times in 10 seconds to Kayte, Boogie should have been commending the refs for reversing the technical or not making an issue of it in the least. Moreover with more self-awareness after emotions cooled, I think he has to know he got away with something. Many players including himself have been tech'd up for less. None of this takes away from his spectacular performance. Once Boogie can be more self-aware in these situations and pivotal moments, he will take the next step in his development. There is also a way that you can talk trash without jeopardizing yourself or team (see Bird, Jordan, LeBron, etc).
There's also a point when it is obvious you are clearly the superior player to a guy like Myers Leonard and that he is neither worthy of your time or energy, unless an oversized ego compels you to chronically engage.
The original call was Boogie threw his mouthpiece and that was the reason for the tech. The ref saw the mouthpiece end up near the Blazers bench but was unsure if it was tossed by hand or fell out of his mouth. The ref asked Stotts if he threw his mouthpiece and Coach Stotts said "no". That's when the tech was rescinded and Boogie was called back. Boogie and the Kings were fortunate on at least two counts (1) Stotts was forthright with the ref. He could've said he didn't see it and the tech stands (2) The ref could have called Boogie for taunting. (3) It's unconceivable to say the mouthpiece fell from his mouth....he spit it out based on the trajectory it travelled so he could talk trash to Leonard.
Next, not sure if spitting your mouthpiece towards an opponent constitutes a tech, though it should, but I do know doing so in context of shouting obscenities at Leonard are grounds for tech, and this is exactly what happened per Leonard post-game. The refs grant more leeway in crunch time to allow emotion and celebratory response. But when you curse and spit your mouthpiece towards an opponent, that is enough unsportsmanlike conduct to get tech'd up. I don't care who the player is when it happens or whether the player has a sterling or tarnished reputation.
This is what is a bit disconcerting about Boogie's post-game reaction of "ridiculous....ridiculous....ridiculous". Boogie is convinced he is mistreated and refs are out to get him. Yet if you reconstruct the facts objectively, Boogie is fortunate he was allowed to stay in the game and make that timely shot block that sealed the win. If only one of three refs has eyeballs on Boogie after his and-one and in close enough vicinity in the raucous setting to hear what he yelled it becomes inarguable a technical foul is warranted. Does Boogie think spitting his mouthpiece and cursing an opponent is acceptable.... or wants to pretend it didn't happen?
Instead of saying "ridiculous" 27 times in 10 seconds to Kayte, Boogie should have been commending the refs for reversing the technical or not making an issue of it in the least. Moreover with more self-awareness after emotions cooled, I think he has to know he got away with something. Many players including himself have been tech'd up for less. None of this takes away from his spectacular performance. Once Boogie can be more self-aware in these situations and pivotal moments, he will take the next step in his development. There is also a way that you can talk trash without jeopardizing yourself or team (see Bird, Jordan, LeBron, etc).
There's also a point when it is obvious you are clearly the superior player to a guy like Myers Leonard and that he is neither worthy of your time or energy, unless an oversized ego compels you to chronically engage.
Don't think his "ridiculous" rant was uncalled for. Teams are going out of their way to stick a "goon" on him and purposely rough him up because 1. The refs aren't protecting him and 2. He's supposed to have someone on his team protecting him. He sees other "star" players getting touch fouls but he gets bludgeoned and hammered all game long and the refs allow it. He's going to get hurt one of these days from being gooned and it will be the league's fault for not protecting him. You understand why he's so angry now? He just wants a little consistency from the league on how refs handle him in comparison to his fellow all stars around the league.
And a lot of people on this site -- you included -- constantly complain, yell, and argue about Boogie's complaining, yelling and arguing all the time. But somehow that's different because, like Boogie, you believe it's warranted. Pot meet kettle.
Believe it or not, many are just as tired of you guys complaining as you are of Boogie complaining.
Perspective is a helluva drug....
Believe it or not, many are just as tired of you guys complaining as you are of Boogie complaining.
Perspective is a helluva drug....
I'm one of Cousins biggest supporters on here, but I have a very, very hard time believing the mouthpiece was an accident. Mouthpieces don't just fly out at that speed when your standing/slowly walking and no contact is being made with you. Also, I'm sure these guys where custom mouthpieces which makes it even harder for them to fall out let alone "jet" out of someone's mouth like that.
Odds are, Cousins was in the wrong here. We were fortunate he did not get thrown out last night, and his little speech after the game made me think if he will ever be MAN enough to admit when he's in the wrong when it comes to the referees?
I used to be an absolute nightmare to referees when I was 13-16. I actually ended up becoming a referee later on down that road, and I learned that the entire reffing community was aware of me & how bad I was. They told me they would specifically keep a tighter leash on me because of this reputation, but I matured and got over that phase by realizing that if I wanted to win (and win at a high level), I can't put myself in a disadvantage right out of the gate. There's a whole team that is already trying to beat me.
Cousins' passion is great and I love his fire, but if he really wants to win as bad as he says he does, don't put yourself at a disadvantage. Perhaps he's mentally incapable, and it's wrong of me to talk about it like it's a fixable thing for him. Everyone is different & perhaps my own experience doesn't necessarily mean there is hope for him lessening his antics.
Having said all of that, don't mistake this post as someone who wants to run Cousins out of town or that we should trade Cousins immediately. I don't want that. I want his talent here, I want him to find success, and I just want the big fella to prove all of his haters wrong.
Odds are, Cousins was in the wrong here. We were fortunate he did not get thrown out last night, and his little speech after the game made me think if he will ever be MAN enough to admit when he's in the wrong when it comes to the referees?
I used to be an absolute nightmare to referees when I was 13-16. I actually ended up becoming a referee later on down that road, and I learned that the entire reffing community was aware of me & how bad I was. They told me they would specifically keep a tighter leash on me because of this reputation, but I matured and got over that phase by realizing that if I wanted to win (and win at a high level), I can't put myself in a disadvantage right out of the gate. There's a whole team that is already trying to beat me.
Cousins' passion is great and I love his fire, but if he really wants to win as bad as he says he does, don't put yourself at a disadvantage. Perhaps he's mentally incapable, and it's wrong of me to talk about it like it's a fixable thing for him. Everyone is different & perhaps my own experience doesn't necessarily mean there is hope for him lessening his antics.
Having said all of that, don't mistake this post as someone who wants to run Cousins out of town or that we should trade Cousins immediately. I don't want that. I want his talent here, I want him to find success, and I just want the big fella to prove all of his haters wrong.
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I don't know the specifics but there were a few where he was calmly (so it seemed) chatting with a ref during a time out and suddenly he was t'd up. Maybe the NBA is re-thinking the magic word in that some crude language can be considered a part of normal conversation and that it only rises to the level of a tech when said angerly. There were at least a couple where I just scratched mt head.
His recent mini-rant to Katy that made him sound a tad paranoid may have been derived from these odd techs.
His recent mini-rant to Katy that made him sound a tad paranoid may have been derived from these odd techs.
