[Game] Blazers @ Kings game discussion - 10/10 (pre-season)
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There is no question Vlade would have to sit down with him if he decides he wants to become more perimeter oriented. He isn't that type of player, no matter what he says. That is not his game, all these forwards that come in the league just want to shoot jump shots now a days. We don't have any bangers anymore.
Malone had Cousins respect. He was a hard ass, but also fair, and a straight shooter who had his player's backs.
Every other coach we've had during Cousins career has either been a moron, a snake, a wuss, or possessed a combination of all three traits. Karl is a great coach, but we saw him **** it up with Cuz almost immediately.
I think the issue is that most of the coaches we've had here are either too afraid to discipline Cousins, or too impatient/egotistical to deal with him, so they throw him under the bus. Karl was the latter, but now that he knows that the org is backing Boogie, he's in the first group.
So who has a personality that, like Malone, will enable them to reach Cousins? Vlade. That's who! So that leaves some room for optimism.
It would all be so much easier if Cuz wasn't such a difficult a-hole at times.... But hey, that's part of the big fella's charm, I suppose!
Every other coach we've had during Cousins career has either been a moron, a snake, a wuss, or possessed a combination of all three traits. Karl is a great coach, but we saw him **** it up with Cuz almost immediately.
I think the issue is that most of the coaches we've had here are either too afraid to discipline Cousins, or too impatient/egotistical to deal with him, so they throw him under the bus. Karl was the latter, but now that he knows that the org is backing Boogie, he's in the first group.
So who has a personality that, like Malone, will enable them to reach Cousins? Vlade. That's who! So that leaves some room for optimism.
It would all be so much easier if Cuz wasn't such a difficult a-hole at times.... But hey, that's part of the big fella's charm, I suppose!
No its a handicap to have a superstar that you must treat like hard wired bomb. If you pluck the wrong wire it will go off. Hes so talented you have to try and put up with it, but you havd to wonder where we could be right now if you replaced Cuz's attitude with thr likes of Davis, Durant, Curry, Lebron, Cp3. Hopefully we see a transformation this year if we start winning.
This is all too true regarding his attitude. He needs to really change his ways if he ever wants to become a champion and lead a team. Not throw tantrums. He needs to work with people and not think everybody is out to get him or stab him in the back. With that approach, he will always be known as a cancer. That's not to say that he is, but winning should cure some ailments, let's see if that is the case.
I've been a Cuz apologist and have defended him at every stop in his career. Last year when they fired his coach, etc. but this year if he still is the same tantrum throwing guy and we lose games because of it, it's all on him.
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No more excuses. You have pieces now for the first time in your career Cuz that can help you win. We just need a winning attitude from him.
Casspi is going to shine under Karl as long as he can maintain a good dribble. I only say he's not on the same page yet because of his preseason struggles. Whether it's due to an illness or not, he's been looking really poor out there. A lot of reckless driving with 3 defenders around the rim..and a lot of sloppy passes mixed with poor decision making. He just has to tighten those things up.
It's preseason, and it'll give him a lot of time to feel better while improving on his overall game. Casspi can play at a high level. Preseason just hasn't been going too well for him.. to say the least.
It's preseason, and it'll give him a lot of time to feel better while improving on his overall game. Casspi can play at a high level. Preseason just hasn't been going too well for him.. to say the least.
Glad to hear that.
However, I think opponents are taking less shots in the paint than they are from 3.. We're 2nd at 117 3pt attempts a game.. however, we're only allowing .342% which is alright..
I'm getting to the point where I want to force our opponents to drive to the basket. Don't allow them to settle for jumpers nor 3s. Make our guards force the players inside by playing extremely tight and denying any type of open shots.
Make them beat WCS, Kofus, and Cuz. Do not allow them to get any perimeter looks at all.
I'd rather give Curry 3/7 from in the paint than 3/10 from 3pt land.
However, I think opponents are taking less shots in the paint than they are from 3.. We're 2nd at 117 3pt attempts a game.. however, we're only allowing .342% which is alright..
I'm getting to the point where I want to force our opponents to drive to the basket. Don't allow them to settle for jumpers nor 3s. Make our guards force the players inside by playing extremely tight and denying any type of open shots.
Make them beat WCS, Kofus, and Cuz. Do not allow them to get any perimeter looks at all.
I'd rather give Curry 3/7 from in the paint than 3/10 from 3pt land.
Not quite true, as Webber had shot over 800 (almost 900 actually) three pointers in his career, 200 of those as a King.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/webbech01.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/webbech01.html
Cousins is great, no doubt about it. He's got more talent than what he knows what to do with. And that is the problem, he feels like he is being limited by being strictly in the post. A coach exists for a reason, and that's to tell the players what to do. If the players didn't need a coach, well then we wouldn't have coaches. Just because Cousins wants to shoot threes and play on the perimeter doesn't mean that he should. I can understand a few possessions a game, but his talent isn't 25 feet from the basket.
Karl needs to take the reins on this and tug hard. Cousins may ***** and complain, but in the end, Cousins will respect Karl more for standing his ground. Whatever is happening now between Cuz and Karl isn't respect. It's a** kissing and good old brown nosing. A player who hasn't won more than 29 games in 5 seasons has no right telling a coach with 1,100 plus wins what to do, no matter how talented. At the very least, there should be a mutual decision/compromise.
Karl needs to take the reins on this and tug hard. Cousins may ***** and complain, but in the end, Cousins will respect Karl more for standing his ground. Whatever is happening now between Cuz and Karl isn't respect. It's a** kissing and good old brown nosing. A player who hasn't won more than 29 games in 5 seasons has no right telling a coach with 1,100 plus wins what to do, no matter how talented. At the very least, there should be a mutual decision/compromise.
WATCH THE GAMES.
I can already diagram at least half a dozen of our sets. Not one of which doesn't have Cuz above the three point line at some point during it. He's basically in a SG position, setting picks for Rondo up near the arc, or actually just stepping to the angle and Rondo will come down and LOOK for him to be there. We have also run several sets where Cuz's job is to flare to the corner for a spot up three attempt. Its kinda gross.
Now as for Cuz himself, sure a bit. In some ways his deteriorating attitude toward inside play matches our franchise's failure to build around him. Despite the physicality he's never enjoyed it the way the truest warriors do. And as teams has swarmed him with no other options on the squad, there have been indications Cuz has begun to overthink things, think why am I taking all this abuse for a franchise that refuses to put talent around me and is going to win 20-something games again?
But for all that he was down inside a lot only 4-5 months ago. In terms of games played, less than 10 games ago he was barreling over teams to the tune of 39-20. We've never seen anything from him like what we've seen so far this preseason, and that's because we've never seen this idiot offense before. Nor by the way has it exactly been working wonders -- we've gotten off to some scrubby offensive starts so far, and no wonder.
I can already diagram at least half a dozen of our sets. Not one of which doesn't have Cuz above the three point line at some point during it. He's basically in a SG position, setting picks for Rondo up near the arc, or actually just stepping to the angle and Rondo will come down and LOOK for him to be there. We have also run several sets where Cuz's job is to flare to the corner for a spot up three attempt. Its kinda gross.
Now as for Cuz himself, sure a bit. In some ways his deteriorating attitude toward inside play matches our franchise's failure to build around him. Despite the physicality he's never enjoyed it the way the truest warriors do. And as teams has swarmed him with no other options on the squad, there have been indications Cuz has begun to overthink things, think why am I taking all this abuse for a franchise that refuses to put talent around me and is going to win 20-something games again?
But for all that he was down inside a lot only 4-5 months ago. In terms of games played, less than 10 games ago he was barreling over teams to the tune of 39-20. We've never seen anything from him like what we've seen so far this preseason, and that's because we've never seen this idiot offense before. Nor by the way has it exactly been working wonders -- we've gotten off to some scrubby offensive starts so far, and no wonder.
And Webber absolutely had lost his way when he did that, similar to what is happening here. An amazing talent who should have been an inside monster who was talented enough to try other things, had no disciplinarian, no Pat Riley to say stop it, and wasted years of his career eroding his reputation and getting the "soft" label. And even in Sacramento the strictures of the Princeton offense setting him up at the elbow as a jumpshooter has become one fo the biggest arguments by those trying to keep him out of the HOF. Inefficient, didn't draw contact, not a warrior.
Oh no, I was referring to his pre-Kings years.
One of the things about Webber that 20 years late people forget is that Chris Webber was thought by many to be the GOAT PF prospect of all time. He was going to revolutionize the game when he came out of college. And some of the negativity surrounding people's thoughts on Webber stems from the fact he never quite became that. Gettign drafted by ****ing Nellie probably helped start that. but then forcing his way out, being given free reign to play any way he wanted and be stupid in Washington chipped in. He started getting casual on D, throwing up threes, piling up TOs. Wild talent, but was he winning? Then he finally came to the Kings and the very structured offense placed him at the elbow facing up running the offense. Finally cut the threes, but shot a LOT old midrange jumpers. Occurs to me that a lot of 90lb geeks studying sheets of metrics probably think they are smarter than the Princeton offense given how many midrange jumpers it depended upon.
One of the things about Webber that 20 years late people forget is that Chris Webber was thought by many to be the GOAT PF prospect of all time. He was going to revolutionize the game when he came out of college. And some of the negativity surrounding people's thoughts on Webber stems from the fact he never quite became that. Gettign drafted by ****ing Nellie probably helped start that. but then forcing his way out, being given free reign to play any way he wanted and be stupid in Washington chipped in. He started getting casual on D, throwing up threes, piling up TOs. Wild talent, but was he winning? Then he finally came to the Kings and the very structured offense placed him at the elbow facing up running the offense. Finally cut the threes, but shot a LOT old midrange jumpers. Occurs to me that a lot of 90lb geeks studying sheets of metrics probably think they are smarter than the Princeton offense given how many midrange jumpers it depended upon.
The offense is indeed having him out there, but my point still stands. You think if Cousins wanted to be adamant about being played in the post he couldn't? This organization would bend over backwards for any stupid request he made, let alone one that actually would make a lot of sense. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the best players don't spend their summers working on moves that they have no intention of using. Half the problem is that Cousins is only too willing to be treated as a guard, be it handling the ball or taking 3s. This fact has been well documented, even from the Westphal days. The other half is that this Karl offense seems to be encouraging it.
Easy there on all the harsh criticism. Coach Karl is trying out his playbook in this preseason. There is no reason for Cousins to Bang in these practice games. He will not forget how to go down low. I am enjoying watching him try out other parts of his game. I can hardly wait to see what Bogut and Pekovic do when Cousins drifts out of the paint. Personally I think Pete Carril is smiling somewhere.
Cousins has looked fine to me. He has not been too upset. Nothing excessive in my opinion. I do want Coach Karl to step up and deflect the Refs when Cousins has been fouled and no call has been made.
Sure are a lot of concerned Fans though. I mean it is preseason and the Kings are 4 and 1.
Chill
Cousins has looked fine to me. He has not been too upset. Nothing excessive in my opinion. I do want Coach Karl to step up and deflect the Refs when Cousins has been fouled and no call has been made.
Sure are a lot of concerned Fans though. I mean it is preseason and the Kings are 4 and 1.
Chill
Even Malone had to buckle under. Cousins still played point guard under Malone, just as he continues to do under Karl. I don't believe either coach wanted/wants him dribbling the ball up the floor, but he continues to try to be Magic Johnson. Didn't happen with USA basketball because he couldn't get away with it; he had to be on best behavior.