Kings and free agency - part 2

[Entity]

Well we just got exposed as if we didnt already know. We can't get ANY free agent (unless previously with us) we went all in and traded away our tradeable prices for cap space only and now will be resorted to getting players just as tired and pathetic as last years bench

 

[SacTownKid]

Well, in another way I hope that chip on Cuz's and Gays shoulder just got a little bigger. Hey Cuz, Matthews wants to play with Jordan over you. How does that sit big fella?

 

[Darth Divac]

If we return the same starting 5 as last year, Fegan won't have to take Cousins out of here. I'll do it for him. Enough is enough, and greatness awaits Boogie in the NBA, if he can ever get called up.

However Wes Matthews =/= the end of all hope.

The Kings' starting 5 last year was statistically one of the best (I believe top 5) in the league.

 

[steelevt]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 22s23 seconds ago
As @daldridgetnt just tweeted, Wes Matthews has officially given a verbal commitment to the Mavs after turning Sacramento down

And this is why cap space is next to worthless in Sacramento. For those that said nik sucked or don't care about the top 10 protected pick, they are assets and we shouldn't have used them to dump Landry or a serviceable jt. Or do what the Suns did. How come their salary dump looks so much better than ours?

 

[Kingfanpaul]

Damn.. My gut was wrong

I will never trust your gut again!

 

[New Era]

If we return the same starting 5 as last year, Fegan won't have to take Cousins out of here. I'll do it for him. Enough is enough, and greatness awaits Boogie in the NBA, if he can ever get called up.

However Wes Matthews =/= the end of all hope.

You realize that he's a part of why FA's don't want to come here, right? While yes I'll concede that we are completely dysfunctional and that doesn't help, it's starting to be pretty clear that guys aren't enamored to play with him.

 

[kingsboi]

and there you have it folks...don't get too high or too low when being a Kings fan. The Kings didn't really have a chance IMO...they could throw some money his way but other than that a whole lot of uncertainty. On to the next one. Bolster up that bench or make a trade or two.

 

[jcwkings]

If we return the same starting 5 as last year, Fegan won't have to take Cousins out of here. I'll do it for him. Enough is enough, and greatness awaits Boogie in the NBA, if he can ever get called up.

However Wes Matthews =/= the end of all hope.

There are no SG's of worth left. None that are clear upgrades over Ben.

 

[ockingsfan]

Wes Matthews just used the kings to increase his offer from the mavs.

I don't think he ever intended to sign here.

 

[Darth Divac]

Again, the Kings starting 5 was NOT THE PROBLEM last year. Any fool could see that Derrick Williams, Ray McCallum and Carl Landry f**king off for 20 minutes a night was why this team lost, not DeMarcus, Rudy, or Collison.

 

[Peter_Gibbons]

Its really not that bad. I would always prefer a developed Ben over a post big injury Matthews.

It would've helped in the short term bit we would be taking a big risk. It seemed like we had no choice but to use the cap, but now its better that we got an answer.

Sign Rondo and use the remaining money to make our bench deeper. Brewer, Lin, etc etc. Get another big.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

I will reserve judgement to see who we do sign before I go nuts about this. It's possible that plan B works out better than plan A. It happens. Mathews was no guarantee, I guess I suppose we can all secretly hope it takes him 2 or more seasons to recover... maybe we find a few depth players that can compete for starting jobs and Rondo signs and is the Rondo we loved in Boston? I dunno...

 

[Amit149]

You realize that he's a part of why FA's don't want to come here, right? While yes I'll concede that we are completely dysfunctional and that doesn't help, it's starting to be pretty clear that guys aren't enamored to play with him.

I don't think you are right about that... there are reasons not to come play for the Kings- Cousins isn't one of them

 

[Double-K]

And this is why cap space is next to worthless in Sacramento. For those that said nik sucked or don't care about the top 10 protected pick, they are assets and we shouldn't have used them to dump Landry or a serviceable jt. Or do what the Suns did. How come their salary dump looks so much better than ours?

I swear you guys are making it sound like we traded away Michael Jordan for pocket lint.

 

[DerekJ]

at least we learned a good lesson on how NOT to rebuild the team.

 

[kingsboi]

Wes Matthews just used the kings to increase his offer from the mavs.

I don't think he ever intended to sign here.

Reminds me of Andre Iguodala the first year of the Vivek era.

 

[Peter_Gibbons]

Wes Matthews just used the kings to increase his offer from the mavs.

I don't think he ever intended to sign here.

Yup, that's what we've been saying.

It seemed that way because the numbers of the offer was announced but not agreed to.

If you look at the other deals, most of the numbers are announced only when its agreed to already.

 

[kingsboi]

at least we learned a good lesson on how NOT to rebuild the team.

well obviously the Kings can't do that through the draft which is the most popular way....they only give away assets like Tyreke/IT.

 

[Entity]

There are no SG's of worth left. None that are clear upgrades over Ben.

You got that right I'm not sure there are any that are upgrades over stauskas. If I hear belinelli again I will throw up

 

[ockingsfan]

It will be funny if Wes Matthews never returns to form.

The only video of his rehab is him slowly putting up jumpshots in a college gym

 

[kingsboi]

This isn't the end of all....but this is when the real work as a GM comes into play when your top priority is gone. I'll be interested to see who Vlade signs now...if no one, trade for someone.

 

[jcwkings]

You realize that he's a part of why FA's don't want to come here, right? While yes I'll concede that we are completely dysfunctional and that doesn't help, it's starting to be pretty clear that guys aren't enamored to play with him.

Yep, a player that talented should have guys lining up to play with him. We cannot even overpay 3rd or 4th options to come here.

 

[Bricklayer]

And this is why cap space is next to worthless in Sacramento. For those that said nik sucked or don't care about the top 10 protected pick, they are assets and we shouldn't have used them to dump Landry or a serviceable jt. Or do what the Suns did. How come their salary dump looks so much better than ours?

Ours is fine. People need to quit dramaqueening over this. We have ever bit of room we had 2 hours ago. Just shift targets and move on. Free agents, call up the Pels see how they feel about their guards, the Nets, Denver etc. Long list of possibles. By doing things the way we did them we kept our core intact so everything we do here is adding to it, and we can accept various combinations of guys.

 

[206Fan]

Eh it's ok guys. I posted a list of FAs a few pages back.

Missing out on Matthews isn't the worst thing in the world.

 

[kingsboi]

Yep, a player that talented should have guys lining up to play with him. We cannot even overpay 3rd or 4th options to come here.

I suppose money isn't everything for some players...some prefer location, some prefer team culture, etc.

 

[Double-K]

It will be funny if Wes Matthews never returns to form.

Woah... I only wished ill will against Kobe Bryant once because of how he beat us.

These are businessmen, just because they wear jerseys doesn't change that fact.

 

[Darth Divac]

FWIW, the Kings' starting 5 of Collison/McLemore/Gay/Thompson/Cousins was 5th in Net RtG, 3rd in DEF RtG, and 7th in PIE.

 

[ockingsfan]

I think this opens up the possibility we offer rondo a bigger and longer contract.

I can see us offering rondo something along the line of 3 years $40 mil deal.

And then use the rest of the money to fill in the bench

 

[Bricklayer]

You got that right I'm not sure there are any that are upgrades over stauskas. If I hear belinelli again I will throw up

You shouldn't. Bellinelli could really help. Unlike Ben he actually hits his threes and can handle the ball. Certianly no home run/3rd star, but he's a nice little roleplayer to space the floor with.

 

[ockingsfan]

Woah... I only wished ill will against Kobe Bryant once because of how he beat us.

These are businessmen, just because they wear jerseys doesn't change that fact.

Not wishing injury on Wes, but odds are against him ever regaining the same form he had before the injury.