Kings and free agency - part 2

[Gilles]

No, not right.

Matthews max would be about 74 million over 4 years. His last year may just touch 20.

First year 17.25M ish

There's actually a little secret, that

Larry Coon CBA FAQ
They use a different cap calculation to determine the maximum salaries, which is based on 42.14% of projected BRI rather than 44.74%.

so for Matthews maximum salary will start at around $16.25 million, if cap number is $69 million.

 

[Amit149]

They got one second round pick. We got two.

Oh I stand corrected, I thought we send picks out and got two players that will probably never set foot in the NBA... but it seems like you are talking about a whole other deal...

 

[rhythmless]

There's actually a little secret, that
so for Matthews maximum salary will start at around $16.25 million, if cap number is $69 million.

Even better. The max we can screw ourselves is then under 70M.

 

[Amit149]

YAY!!!

Ramona Shelburne ‏@ramonashelburne
If Lakers miss on their top three FA targets, they're more likely to pursue David Lee in a trade than revisit Boogie talks

 

[Hoovtrain]

Troll
1a. Noun
One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument.

You tell me.

The title of this thread is "Kings and Free Agency, After the Trade". And your message was "this franchise is a joke. Fire the coach."

In his/her defense...this franchise is a joke.

 

[swisshh]

In hindsight, that IT deal is looking really cheap for a backup PG who can score.....

It always was cheap. Question was whether he'd come off the bench willingly or not.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Kobe's the only instance it hasn't looked good, and that's Kobe being Kobe and thinking he's still playing at the level of an all-time great.

I'm not sure Kobe was there to sell him on Kobe, supposedly (I got this from Fox or ESPN last night), LA's pitch was based around how much more money and star power and exposure playing in LA brings and Aldridge didn't give a crap about that as he just wants to win. If so, kudos to him.

 

[Double-K]

In his/her defense...this franchise is a joke.

Just because you believe in something doesn't immediately makes it the truth.

Can we please go back to just talking about how bad our free agent signing is?

 

[ockingsfan]

IF Wes Matthews leaves Sac without a contract, we are screwed.

The longer we go today without news Matthews is signed to 4 year 60 mil contract, the less likely it will happen at all.

We can't let him leave Sac without a contract or else he is just using Sac for leverage to get a deal elsewhere.

 

[ovrush]

IF Wes Matthews leaves Sac without a contract, we are screwed.

The longer we go today without news Matthews is signed to 4 year 60 mil contract, the less likely it will happen at all.

We can't let him leave Sac without a contract or else he is just using Sac for leverage to get a deal elsewhere.

Tend to agree with this

 

[Jerichoholic]

IF Wes Matthews leaves Sac without a contract, we are screwed.

The longer we go today without news Matthews is signed to 4 year 60 mil contract, the less likely it will happen at all.

We can't let him leave Sac without a contract or else he is just using Sac for leverage to get a deal elsewhere.

He probably is going to use us to hold out for leverage, all indications are his first choice is the Mavericks, especially if DeAndre Jordan goes there. He will definitely take less to go there, but still use us to get the most that he can. He would be smart to do so, doesn't mean he doesn't like us. At this point I'll be glad to be anyone's second choice as bad as that sounds.

 

[Amit149]

He probably is going to use us to hold out for leverage, all indications are his first choice is the Mavericks, especially if DeAndre Jordan goes there. He will definitely take less to go there, but still use us to get the most that he can. He would be smart to do so, doesn't mean he doesn't like us. At this point I'll be glad to be anyone's second choice as bad as that sounds.

I don't think the Mavs can offer him a real contract if DJ sign there... am I wrong?

 

[Bricklayer]

IF Wes Matthews leaves Sac without a contract, we are screwed.

The longer we go today without news Matthews is signed to 4 year 60 mil contract, the less likely it will happen at all.

We can't let him leave Sac without a contract or else he is just using Sac for leverage to get a deal elsewhere.

Are you suggesting we kidnap him and shove him in a trunk until he agrees to sign with us?

 

[Bosnian Diehard]

I don't think the Mavs can offer him a real contract if DJ sign there... am I wrong?

Only $12 mill I believe.

If he really wants $15 mill, he will probably be a King.

 

[Bricklayer]

I don't think the Mavs can offer him a real contract if DJ sign there... am I wrong?

They might have room for both. basically dumped both Ellis and Chandler, looking for their replacements.

 

[randymoss1881]

IF Wes Matthews leaves Sac without a contract, we are screwed.

The longer we go today without news Matthews is signed to 4 year 60 mil contract, the less likely it will happen at all.

We can't let him leave Sac without a contract or else he is just using Sac for leverage to get a deal elsewhere.

He can leave without one if DJ stays in LA Matthews isn't going to Dallas to team up with Hibbert/Parsons/ and Dirk

 

[The_Jamal]

In hindsight, that IT deal is looking really cheap for a backup PG who can score.....

No.
Freaking.
Crap.

I told you all on how huge of a value signing he was for the production. Now, he's among the best value contracts in the NBA.

 

[Bosnian Diehard]

They might have room for both. basically dumped both Ellis and Chandler, looking for their replacements.

They are taking on Hibbert's contract though.

 

[Gary]

No.
Freaking.
Crap.

I told you all on how huge of a value signing he was for the production. Now, he's among the best value contracts in the NBA.

He's a value, but is he someone that would have came off the bench and stuck to his ROLE or would we constantly hear him complaining about wanting to start? It's not a deal if he's disruptive. But I would stand corrected if he turns into a great role player.


Are we waiting to sign Rondo until after we sign Matthews? To see how much $$ we have left?

 

[N0tmyfault]

There's actually a little secret, that
so for Matthews maximum salary will start at around $16.25 million, if cap number is $69 million.

That would be Joe Johnson bad.

 

[Amit149]

They are taking on Hibbert's contract though.

From what I've heard they are only going to do that if they can't get DeAndre...

 

[Hoovtrain]

Just because you believe in something doesn't immediately makes it the truth.

Can we please go back to just talking about how bad our free agent signing is?

You are right, me believing in it does not make it truth...their hourly actions and past history however do make it truth.

 

[The_Jamal]

4-60 would be great for Matthews. Knight, Carroll, Monroe, are all in that same vein of talent as Matthews and got similar deals. Its the market for above average players in the league now. It just looks crazy with all these role guys being paid more than the likes of Steph, Boogie, etc. But the market will adjust for them too once they look to ink new deals.

 

[ovrush]

They might have room for both. basically dumped both Ellis and Chandler, looking for their replacements.

They only have 4 guys under contract. They can pay both

 

[Amit149]

He's a value, but is he someone that would have came off the bench and stuck to his ROLE or would we constantly hear him complaining about wanting to start? It's not a deal if he's disruptive. But I would stand corrected if he turns into a great role player.


Are we waiting to sign Rondo until after we sign Matthews? To see how much $$ we have left?

Speaking of which, I think the same question is valid to ask about Rondo- "is he someone that would have came off the bench and stuck to his ROLE or would we constantly hear him complaining about wanting to start? It's not a deal if he's disruptive."

That's one of my fears about getting Rondo- we have already seen he can act badly if things don't go his way, and there is a good chance DC is a better player than him- would he handle it if you took some of his minutes?

 

[N0tmyfault]

Suns just dumped Marcus Morris and two other contracts for second round pics. It's rumored that they may need to dump Markief and PJ Tucker, too. I'd love PJ Tucker on this team. He's a great defender and decent 3-pt shooter.

 

[Amit149]

4-60 would be great for Matthews. Knight, Carroll, Monroe, are all in that same vein of talent as Matthews and got similar deals. Its the market for above average players in the league now. It just looks crazy with all these role guys being paid more than the likes of Steph, Boogie, etc. But the market will adjust for them too once they look to ink new deals.

Thing is, this guys aren't coming of a possibly career altering injury...

 

[Double-K]

You are right, me believing in it does not make it truth...their hourly actions and past history however do make it truth.

Oh you mean all those "hourly actions and past history" twitted by the media that needs to bring "news" to get paid?

 

[The_Jamal]

If we miss on Matthews, I'd love to see us go attack a bench mob. Pat Beverly or Lin, Corey Brewer, Kosta Koufos. Adding 3 productive players would do wonders for this team

 

[Hoovtrain]

Oh you mean all those "hourly actions and past history" twitted by the media that needs to bring "news" to get paid?

Lol yeah man. This is a real model franchise that embodies winning. It's def the medias fault this team has been rebuilding for a decade and still can't manage 30 wins.