Kings and free agency - part 2
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I'll clarify a bit to yours. They only get 1 year for the option to swap. If our pick is in the top 10 this year, they'll have an option to swap for this year only.
However, if we lose our pick to the Bulls this year, Philadepliha will get the option to swap in 2017 instead.
But they can't pick BOTH years if we retain our pick this year, 2016.
However, if we lose our pick to the Bulls this year, Philadepliha will get the option to swap in 2017 instead.
But they can't pick BOTH years if we retain our pick this year, 2016.
Carmichael Dave @CarmichaelDave 2m2 minutes ago Antelope, CA
Carmichael Dave retweeted Jason Jones
Godfather offer.
**In reference to Jason Jones' tweet about Kings giving Wes offer he can't refuse**
Carmichael Dave retweeted Jason Jones
Godfather offer.
**In reference to Jason Jones' tweet about Kings giving Wes offer he can't refuse**
This was exactly my concern. Now that we have more money doesn't mean we get more free agents, it just means we end up paying more for potentially the same ones. They see how much money we have and they want it.
Wesley Matthews with his injury is probably worth around $10 million a year, in this market perhaps $12 million, and because we are the Kings and it's what he originally asked for let's call it $15 million even though most people thought that was ridiculous. Anything over that and I'll pass and move on to the second and third tier free agents.
Let's slightly overpay Kanter, Stuckey, Williams, Lopez, and Joseph or some combination of that. Let's really get this roster overhaul going then.
Wesley Matthews with his injury is probably worth around $10 million a year, in this market perhaps $12 million, and because we are the Kings and it's what he originally asked for let's call it $15 million even though most people thought that was ridiculous. Anything over that and I'll pass and move on to the second and third tier free agents.
Let's slightly overpay Kanter, Stuckey, Williams, Lopez, and Joseph or some combination of that. Let's really get this roster overhaul going then.
I really don't see the "lure" in Dallas. He would get to play with Chandler Parsons who is nothing more than a good SF (Rudy is better IMO and provides more star level play), and Deandre Jordan which we all know is below Boogie. An aging Dirk....like who would want to play here and expect to win a chip?
My concern is the strong impression I got from Dave yesterday that Vivek/Vlade and Karl are not on the same page, or really even close and the strong suggestion of continued dysfunction in our FO.
Are we even going to be able to make presentations to Rondo/Matthews on a united front? Anyone know if Cuz and Karl are even in town to help recruit? Looking around the league we're seeing head coaches and star players showing up at these presentations.
Are we even going to be able to make presentations to Rondo/Matthews on a united front? Anyone know if Cuz and Karl are even in town to help recruit? Looking around the league we're seeing head coaches and star players showing up at these presentations.
Kobe's the only instance it hasn't looked good, and that's Kobe being Kobe and thinking he's still playing at the level of an all-time great.
In SA, Parker/Duncan/Pop show up together.
In Pho with LMA, Horny/Bledsoe/Knight/Chandler showed up.
Dallas had Carlisle/Dirk/Parsons meeting with Jordan.
How does showing up on a united front hurt, in basketball or in business in general?
In SA, Parker/Duncan/Pop show up together.
In Pho with LMA, Horny/Bledsoe/Knight/Chandler showed up.
Dallas had Carlisle/Dirk/Parsons meeting with Jordan.
How does showing up on a united front hurt, in basketball or in business in general?
That team without Monta could actually use Rondo dominating the ball.
It feels like Karl came to them with the list of players, he coached in Denver, and Vlade decided, that he's not going after any of those.
No, Millsap is in 7-9 years of experience bracket, while Wes is still in the same bracket as RFAs.
It feels like Karl came to them with the list of players, he coached in Denver, and Vlade decided, that he's not going after any of those.
No, Millsap is in 7-9 years of experience bracket, while Wes is still in the same bracket as RFAs.
But maybe we can upgrade PG from DC to Lawson
Everyone is saying Denver wants to replace Lawson with Mudiay
Denver can save some bucks and Start DC until Rookie is ready and still have DC as a backup
With Matthews as an uprade and Lawson an upgrade
Lawson, Matthews, Gay, WCS, Big Cuz WootWoot
Sign Casspi, ACY, another Big
Cuz, WCS also at 5.Moreland
WCS, Gay also at 4,Acy, Big Euro(min)
Gay, Casspi, Dwill
Wes, Ben
Lawson, RayMac
So 15m for Wes, 7mil upgrade Lawson, 4mil and Room Exception Casspi,Dwill, Vet Min Acy, Big Euro
One hell of a starting 5, not sure about bench
Everyone is saying Denver wants to replace Lawson with Mudiay
Denver can save some bucks and Start DC until Rookie is ready and still have DC as a backup
With Matthews as an uprade and Lawson an upgrade
Lawson, Matthews, Gay, WCS, Big Cuz WootWoot
Sign Casspi, ACY, another Big
Cuz, WCS also at 5.Moreland
WCS, Gay also at 4,Acy, Big Euro(min)
Gay, Casspi, Dwill
Wes, Ben
Lawson, RayMac
So 15m for Wes, 7mil upgrade Lawson, 4mil and Room Exception Casspi,Dwill, Vet Min Acy, Big Euro
One hell of a starting 5, not sure about bench
Something common in this FA recruitment meetings is the head coach there selling to the FA how he plans to use him and selling the upside of playing for him.
Where's Karl? I honestly have no idea how if Karl was working closely with Vlade that he wouldn't be at these meetings with Matthews/Rondo. Vlade can't speak for Karl on how Karl's going to use these players. Well he could but it's never the same as talking face to face with the coach.
Whether it's Pop, Carlisle, Horny, Gentry, Scott, Vogel, head coaches are at these meetings. Actually, what we're seeing across the board for the most part is owner/GM/Head coach all at these meetings.
That's not the fear. The fear is if we make as good a case as possible on a united front, the asking price might not be as high. Give off the impression we're not on the same page and our head coach/Cuz don't even care enough to show up, then the attitude can quickly change to "you're going to have to pay me more to come into this mess".
Where's Karl? I honestly have no idea how if Karl was working closely with Vlade that he wouldn't be at these meetings with Matthews/Rondo. Vlade can't speak for Karl on how Karl's going to use these players. Well he could but it's never the same as talking face to face with the coach.
Whether it's Pop, Carlisle, Horny, Gentry, Scott, Vogel, head coaches are at these meetings. Actually, what we're seeing across the board for the most part is owner/GM/Head coach all at these meetings.
That's not the fear. The fear is if we make as good a case as possible on a united front, the asking price might not be as high. Give off the impression we're not on the same page and our head coach/Cuz don't even care enough to show up, then the attitude can quickly change to "you're going to have to pay me more to come into this mess".
