Kings trade JT, Nik and Landry to Sixers (renamed)

Warhawk

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#61
Yeah, let us not get Rondo because he is blah, blah, blah. He might end-up a downgrade for us.

But....

The problem is who can we get (at Rondo's level of talent)?

Nobody wants to be in Sacramento (if some fans are right).
I think you might be overestimating his "level of talent" at this stage of his career.
 

rainmaker

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#66
It's not just Rondo's talent level-which is quite questionable right now anyway, it's his fit.

As this roster currently stands he doesn't make much sense. We've got no decent off the ball shooters at the 2-4 and he kills spacing as soon as he gives up the ball, which is a problem in both Cuz and Rudy postups/isos. In Boston didn't matter as much as he controlled the rock. Part of his issue in Dallas was what happened as soon as he gave it up, which was his man sagging 5-10 ft off, almost ignoring him. Here, Rudy/Cuz will be seeing a lot of the rock.

Combine that with WCS, no consistent shooter at the 2 and Rudy who's not a good catch and shoot guy, the fit is highly questionable....as this roster stands.
 
#67
I didn't insinuate anything. I said "IF WE SIGN HIM, he deserves a clean slate." It's the front office's job to assess his attitude. If they determine it's worth the risk, we Kings fans owe him a chance before we plaster him with a label from somewhere else.
You also said "We've had a lot of players with "attitude problems" who did fine while here." That insinuates that his attitude problems aren't as big of deal as people make them out to be when determining if we should sign him. I disagree with this.

It sounds like you're thinking like a fan while I'm thinking like a FO. I'm talking about why you have to consider his attitude problems when looking to sign him. You're talking about how we should treat him and give him a chance once he is here. Those are two completely topics. No reason to reply to me about how we should act as fans when I'm talking strategy with the makeup of our team.
 

Entity

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#68
Ben's overall FG % was better than Afflalo's and Danny Greens and basically on par with Stuckey and Matthews. If you make shots, no matter where on the floor, teams have to account for you and it creates spacing. The spacing will be fine.
Yeah I'm not sold on counting out Ben. By no means is my following comments comparing Ben to Kobe, but Ben shot better than Kobe did his second year. Kobe was nothing in year two just a solid bench player. Year three is when Kobe took off. I think third year is usually the biggest jump in production for players. It would not be a stretch at all to say Ben could get 15-16 pts per game easy with 35+ 3pt% and 45% fg
 
#69
I think you might be overestimating his "level of talent" at this stage of his career.
I might be overestimating his talent-level if we are paying him max salary. Apparently, we are not. And more than likely, Rondo will do his best to rehabilitate his career here in Sacramento. So, starting a one-year deal is not too bad afterall.
 
#71
Yeah, let us not get Rondo because he is blah, blah, blah. He might end-up a downgrade for us.

But....

The problem is who can we get (at Rondo's level of talent)?

Nobody wants to be in Sacramento (if some fans are right). We need to gamble like we did on Rudy.
Well we got Collison last year, and he played better than Rondo. Nobody can for sure say that Rondo will finish out his career better than how Collison will finish out his career. There's too many question marks with Rondo right now. I'm not saying he won't. I'm saying it's not a for sure thing.

No, we don't need to gamble. Our team played great at the beginning of the season and we have the same core. Add some improvement from Cousins, McLemore, & Stauskas, add Cauley-Stein, add some veterans through free agency to strengthen the bench, add a small trade or two, and voila! This team should be competitive from day one with the only major risk being the Karl system and the Karl/Cousins relationship.
 
#72
It sounds like you're thinking like a fan while I'm thinking like a FO.
Which winning FO are you basing your thinking?

The one (Charlote) that gambled and failed on Lance Stephenson?

Or the one (Clippers) who traded for the same guy just a while back?

Or, maybe that FO we had before who traded for Chris Webber?

I wonder if we should have traded Cousins too when he was still immature.
 
#79
Which winning FO are you basing your thinking?

The one (Charlote) that gambled and failed on Lance Stephenson?

Or the one (Clippers) who traded for the same guy just a while back?

Or, maybe that FO we had before who traded for Chris Webber?

I wonder if we should have traded Cousins too when he was still immature.
Not sure what you're getting at. Please try again.
 
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KingMilz

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#80
If Rondo returns to form he puts us in the hunt for the 8th seed. If he doesn't he's still essentially a 29 year old Andre Miller.
Please Miller was way better than current Rondo at 29 but Rondo back to form craps on Miller, but I agree he brings a lot of similar qualities.
 
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#88
Hopefully if Nik improves we can field this sometimes:

Rondo
BMac
Stauskas
Gay
Cousins

That's if we ever need extreme spacing (and assuming Nik develops, BMac improves).