Kings trade JT, Nik and Landry to Sixers (renamed)

[KingMilz]

Assuming they are going after Green they must have a trade lined up somewhere for either Ben or Nik. This can't be one of those Landry/Patterson/JT/Chuck Hayes situations we had 2 years ago.

 

[ockingsfan]

The lakers are no longer a viable landing spot for rondo given they drafted Russell and have clarkson. Miami is even more in rebuild mode than the kings.

I think the kings may land rondo with a 2 year /$20 million contract with a 2nd year player option.

The kings would need to sign a 3 point specialist with the veteran exception to spread the floor.

 

[206Fan]

We cannot structure a contract like that. We can only give Danny Green 4.5% raises each year. Your deal suggests a 66.6% raise in the second year.

Question, how did the Rockets do this win Lin? His was structured very weird, and most of his cap hit was in his first contract year.

 

[jcwkings]

Is it feasable to get both Green and Rondo? We would have to rid ourselves of Landrys contract, easier said than done. Green is a longshot though, hard to justify going from the Spurs to the Kings.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

Assuming they are going after Green they must have a trade lined up somewhere for either Ben or Nik

Part of a deal with Denver for Wilson Chandler

 

[Darth Divac]

Alright everyone, I'm buckling down for the night. If something happens I expect hot takes in the morning.

 

[KingMilz]

Part of a deal with Denver for Wilson Chandler

Would be tough considering Chandler makes roughly 5-6 million more and we are trying to create space for both Green/Rondo

 

[Tetsujin]

Yay!!!!


Ailene Voisin ‏@ailene_voisin 22s22 seconds ago
Kings intent on re-signing Omri Casspi, who desperately wants to return and play for George Karl. OC is also a Fegan client (DMC) so beware.

 

[LPKingsFan]

Please...talent towards the East.

This. If I was someone like LaMarcus Aldridge, I'd sign with Toronto or Atlanta if not the Spurs. Waltz right into the ECF guaranteed. Not sure why the competitive imbalance isn't more of a factor for some of these guys (or maybe it is, and that's why, say, Monta is reportedly more interested in Eastern Conference teams).

 

[Tetsujin]

Would be tough considering Chandler makes roughly 5-6 million more and we are trying to create space for both Green/Rondo

Landry/Nik for Wilson.


Sigh. A man can dream.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

Would be tough considering Chandler makes roughly 5-6 million more and we are trying to create space for both Green/Rondo

Sign and trade Williams

 

[LPKingsFan]

This might be better posted in the other thread, but interesting that Voisin and Dave are out-and-out saying Fegan is an issue.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

D-Will was Pete's project for Malone. So let them finish the challenge

 

[206Fan]

This. If I was someone like LaMarcus Aldridge, I'd sign with Toronto or Atlanta if not the Spurs. Waltz right into the ECF guaranteed. Not sure why the competitive imbalance isn't more of a factor for some of these guys (or maybe it is, and that's why, say, Monta is reportedly more interested in Eastern Conference teams).

I'm actually hoping Aldridge signs with the Spurs.. they'll always be good no matter what. If he doesn't sign with the Spurs, he's most likely going to Dallas.. or returning to Portland. Those are the 2 teams we don't want getting better..

Portland losing Aldridge, and Dallas not getting good players through FA are our only hopes of playoffs for next season.

 

[King Baller]

This might be better posted in the other thread, but interesting that Voisin and Dave are out-and-out saying Fegan is an issue.

Links?

 

[The Hammer]

Good move from Vlade. This shouldnt be a "you're desperate, we're desperate lets make a deal". Show him your vision, show him its not as crazy as Woj and the national media will have you think and sell him on playing with the best big man in the game and Rudy. Make him buy in to the vision and not just look at Sacramento as a place to use to rehab your value.

This is not something PDA could have done. SO glad Vlade is here.

No one on the planet could talk about the Kings vision and returning former glory and buying into the team mission better than one Vlade Divac.

 

[twslam07]

Answer: Maybe..

If the cap is at 67million next year, we currently have $58million guaranteed. If we let go of Stockton+Moreland, we'll have around $56million guaranteed. Let's say we get rid of Landry(6.5million). We'd have around $49.5million guaranteed. Which means, we'll have about $17.5million to spend.

We can offer Danny Green something like 3 years $36million while structuring his contract in a way where his 1st year has a lower cap hit. For ex, he could be paid $9million his first year, $15million his 2nd year, and $12million his 3rd year.

Therefore, we'd have $8.5million left in cap..which should be enough for Rondo. We could also structure it to have a low cap hit his 1st year too.

Rumors are that the cap could actually be higher by 2million then predicted.

You're not factoring in any cap holds here.

It was originally rumored that the salary cap would be $67,100,000. If that is the case, we would have $7,997,083 in cap space (I use basketball insiders for the contracts and cap holds). If the salary cap increases by another $2,000,000, then we have $9,997,083 in cap space to start.

If we make a trade like Landry and removing the 2016 1st Round Pick Protection for a future protected 2nd rounder (basically removing the protection of our pick for instant cap relief), we would have $13,971,990 in cap space ($15,971,990 if they increase the cap by $2,000,000).

If we were then to waive all of our unguaranteed contracts (McCallum, Moreland, & Stockton), we would have $15,034,105 in cap space ($17,034,105 if they increase the cap by $2,000,000).

If we're trying to sign Green, there will likely not be any room for Rondo unless we make another trade for cap relief (likely Thompson).

 

[randymoss1881]

Please please please let Danny Green happen.

That's what we need a defensive specialist who doesn't need the ball and is a sniper from 3.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Question, how did the Rockets do this win Lin? His was structured very weird, and most of his cap hit was in his first contract year.

Rather than explain it, I will point you to this. http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q45

The Gilbert Arenas provision does not apply to Green, because (for one) he has been in the league too long.

 

[steelevt]

The lakers are no longer a viable landing spot for rondo given they drafted Russell and have clarkson. Miami is even more in rebuild mode than the kings.

I think the kings may land rondo with a 2 year /$20 million contract with a 2nd year player option.

The kings would need to sign a 3 point specialist with the veteran exception to spread the floor.

I think 2 years /$20 million is too much especially if second year is a player option. He did have a down year so it shouldn't cost us so much. I was thinking closer to $7 mil with player option and give him another mil or two only if he agrees to a team option. He needs to rebuild his image so he needs a team willing to let him as much as we need a pg

 

[Mass]

I believe that if we really have a shot at Danny Green, it will be a S&T for Ben. And I'm sure Ben would become a really nice player for the Spurs.

This way we send out a contract and the Spurs get a guy who can become Green's replacement at a cheaper price. I don't see the Spurs just losing Green.

 

[206Fan]

You're not factoring in any cap holds here.

It was originally rumored that the salary cap would be $67,100,000. If that is the case, we would have $7,997,083 in cap space (I use basketball insiders for the contracts and cap holds). If the salary cap increases by another $2,000,000, then we have $9,997,083 in cap space to start.

If we make a trade like Landry and removing the 2016 1st Round Pick Protection for a future protected 2nd rounder (basically removing the protection of our pick for instant cap relief), we would have $13,971,990 in cap space ($15,971,990 if they increase the cap by $2,000,000).

If we were then to waive all of our unguaranteed contracts (McCallum, Moreland, & Stockton), we would have $15,034,105 in cap space ($17,034,105 if they increase the cap by $2,000,000).

If we're trying to sign Green, there will likely not be any room for Rondo unless we make another trade for cap relief (likely Thompson).

It's difficult trying to figure out the exact contract #s and cap holds. What did you factor into your $8million number?

According to several sites like Spotrac and Hoopshype, we're estimated to have $55million guaranteed money for next season.

 

[KingMilz]

I believe that if we really have a shot at Danny Green, it will be a S&T for Ben. And I'm sure Ben would become a really nice player for the Spurs.

This way we send out a contract and the Spurs get a guy who can become Green's replacement at a cheaper price. I don't see the Spurs just losing Green.

If there's one thing in life you never EVER do it's trade with the Spurs you come out on the losing end no matter what.

 

[HndsmCelt]

I think 2 years /$20 million is too much especially if second year is a player option. He did have a down year so it shouldn't cost us so much. I was thinking closer to $7 mil with player option and give him another mil or two only if he agrees to a team option. He needs to rebuild his image so he needs a team willing to let him as much as we need a pg

Maybe we could sweeten the deal by having him meet with The Pizza Guys after his meeting with Vlade.

 

[206Fan]

Rather than explain it, I will point you to this. http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q45

The Gilbert Arenas provision does not apply to Green, because (for one) he has been in the league too long.

Dammit, why must there be so much? How do you possibly remember all of this? Thank you!

 

[206Fan]

I believe that if we really have a shot at Danny Green, it will be a S&T for Ben. And I'm sure Ben would become a really nice player for the Spurs.

This way we send out a contract and the Spurs get a guy who can become Green's replacement at a cheaper price. I don't see the Spurs just losing Green.

Danny Green is an unrestricted free agent. He can go wherever he wants and the Spurs have no control over it. The Kings have the money to sign Green

 

[Gilles]

Pistons have a lot of cap space, so Green isn't happening, unless Kings are sending out Landry in the same deal (trading JT opens the hole - need another solid 3rd big) - that's the only way to give Danny above $10 million.

 

[twslam07]

It's difficult trying to figure out the exact contract #s and cap holds. What did you factor into your $8million number?

According to several sites like Spotrac and Hoopshype, we're estimated to have $55million guaranteed money for next season.

Basketball Insiders is the best from my experience.

DeMarcus Cousins $15,851,950
Rudy Gay $12,403,101
Carl Landry $6,500,000
Jason Thompson $6,431,250
Darren Collison $5,013,559
Ben McLemore $3,156,600
Nik Stauskas $2,869,440
Willie Cauley-Stein $2,831,900
Ray McCallum $947,276
Wayne Ellington Cap Hold (Stretch) $882,630
Eric Moreland $845,059
David Stockton $845,059
Undrafted Rookie FA Cap Hold $525,093

Total Payroll = $59,102,917
Salary Cap = $67,100,000 (or $69,100,000 if the cap rises $2,000,000)
Cap Space = $7,997,083

 

[PHXSUNSFAN]

Kings have the leverage in acquiring Rondo because their probably the only team in the NBA that's trying to get Rondo.

 

[Gary]

Ailene Voisin ‏@ailene_voisin
Been hearing for weeks that Danny Green is Kings No.1 target. Size, shooting, defending, ball movement and pacing ... ideal in GK system.


Good!

Definitely liking this. Plus he can shoot the three.....

C- Cousins
PF- WCS
SF- Gay
SG- Green
PG- Rondo


Tell me that isn't a good starting lineup and I will say you're high.. And the Rondo haters saying he's done, what do you base that on? A half year with Dallas? Come on..... That's a PG wasteland.