Ongoing draft/lottery discussion [OPEN SPOILERS]
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Well the footage that I watched of Kaminsky was pretty intriguing. I like his ability to attack the defender and handle the ball. And I think most teams won't get away with a player that provides nothing on offense. If WCS can be valuable on offense, remains to be seen. I tend to like players with an already developed skillset. I'm glad, that I don't have to make any decision, which player the Kings should pick. 
Well the footage that I watched of Kaminsky was pretty intriguing. I like his ability to attack the defender and handle the ball. And I think most teams won't get away with a player that provides nothing on offense. If WCS can be valuable on offense, remains to be seen. I tend to like players with an already developed skillset. I'm glad, that I don't have to make any decision, which player the Kings should pick.
I don't know. Just looked at Green's college stats and he shot 38% from 3 with a limited amount of attempts. And I think Green is a pretty special player. I don't think anyone can predict right now, if any player in the current draft will ever be that good.
If we pick WCS I'll be happy and expect a huge improvement of our pick&roll defense. I won't expect more out of a rookie.
If we pick WCS I'll be happy and expect a huge improvement of our pick&roll defense. I won't expect more out of a rookie.
That's kind of how I feel right now. Yes, it sounds like Vlade is active, but it also sounds like he's not willing to shuffle deck chairs. In a sense, no move may be a good move, and he'll look to free agency. This might be a tough year with people trying to take advantage of the fact that they see both him and Vivek as n00bs, but if he doesn't bite on a crap move, it'll strengthen his position next year.
Did you all hear Miami and Denver is interested in Eric Moreland?
Shams Charania, Real GM -
The Denver Nuggets and Miami Heat have discussed deals with the Sacramento Kings involving forward Eric Moreland, league sources told RealGM.
The talks are expected to be centered on larger trade scenarios and bigger names, but Moreland — a 6-foot-10 shot blocker — intrigues the Nuggets and Heat, sources said.
Shams Charania, Real GM -
The Denver Nuggets and Miami Heat have discussed deals with the Sacramento Kings involving forward Eric Moreland, league sources told RealGM.
The talks are expected to be centered on larger trade scenarios and bigger names, but Moreland — a 6-foot-10 shot blocker — intrigues the Nuggets and Heat, sources said.
I think WCS fits with Cousins but if you heard the Lowe Post podcast with Ford he says many FO's feel he will have to get his ankle fixed sometime in the next year, but its not a long term nagging injury concern. Also says he gives you nothing offensively, but I have as much faith in Ford evaluating talent as I do 99% of twitter reporters out there. It does seem you should trade down though and try and pick up another veteran piece along with WCS, while maybe dumping one of the young SG's or Landry's contract.
I have been a fan of Mario, but if Cousins and Gay are staying there is just no room for another volume scorer, and he is most definitely a JR Smith, Marcus Thornton microwave volume guy, even if his ceiling is higher.
I personally think its down to Justise and WCS if Cousins is part of the future. Mudiay, Porzingis, Hezonja if they plan to blow it up.
I have been a fan of Mario, but if Cousins and Gay are staying there is just no room for another volume scorer, and he is most definitely a JR Smith, Marcus Thornton microwave volume guy, even if his ceiling is higher.
I personally think its down to Justise and WCS if Cousins is part of the future. Mudiay, Porzingis, Hezonja if they plan to blow it up.
The important thing with getting Cauley-Stein is that he could be an immediate contributor, if he needs surgery that is not going to happen. Also he is falling down draft boards right now, some to the late teens. We cannot draft him at #6, no longer an option. Perhaps this will facilitate some trades though.
I do... Take him at 6th. Limit his minutes to 25-30 a game. It would allow for a decent three big rotation as well if we were able to maybe get a stretch 4 as well (plenty of minutes to go around to the three players) with Gay playing PF in a pinch if there's foul trouble.
You cannot deny his talent and he's basically what we've been looking for as a player so why not.. I would hate to see him blow up somewhere else when we could have had him.
You cannot deny his talent and he's basically what we've been looking for as a player so why not.. I would hate to see him blow up somewhere else when we could have had him.
Yes, it's definitely less stressing now that he is not projected to go top 5. Not sure why it woudn't be... Again, I'm not sure why my stress level concerns you so much, but I do appreciate you constantly checking in on my well being. Makes me inclined to say that you think I'm a good poster and don't want anything bad to happen to me. Thanks again!
Health issues are always hard to say for us fans. Not all of us are doctors and not all of us are completely aware of the complications (and the degree of these complications for that matter). The talent and skill of a player is, for the most part, out in the open making it much easier for us fans to come to a decision on if a player has what it takes, but for any of us to really give their opinion on when Cauley-Stein should be selected, a doctor and his health records are required. Unfortunately, I don't have access to either.
If the Kings pass on him (a player who seems to fit Vlade's narrative - win now player/long, athletic, defensive PF), then I can only assume it was due to health concerns, and if that's the case, I'm completely fine with it.
Health issues are always hard to say for us fans. Not all of us are doctors and not all of us are completely aware of the complications (and the degree of these complications for that matter). The talent and skill of a player is, for the most part, out in the open making it much easier for us fans to come to a decision on if a player has what it takes, but for any of us to really give their opinion on when Cauley-Stein should be selected, a doctor and his health records are required. Unfortunately, I don't have access to either.
If the Kings pass on him (a player who seems to fit Vlade's narrative - win now player/long, athletic, defensive PF), then I can only assume it was due to health concerns, and if that's the case, I'm completely fine with it.
No. He didn't enter the draft last year because he had the stress fracture in his foot. He played well this year, but didn't really improve on his sophomore season. I think the upside for him is questionable, stress fracture injuries are always a red flag for 7 footers, and most of the reason he was ranked as highly as #4 in the first place is media hype owing to his playing three years at Kentucky. Most of the players in the top 10 are one-and-one teenagers. To pick a 22 year old with injury history in the top 10 you really have to believe in his upside. I could be wrong, but I always thought 10-14 is where his actual value is.
I think he improved on last year. His court awareness and being able to play within the flow of the game was vastly improved. Remember, he's played with four big men that were top picks in the NBA over the last three years. Noel, Embiid, Randel, Towns...... If he was featured he would have had better stats but he played the position and did what he was told. That counts for something in my book.
Cauley-Stein has sickle cell trait, that isn't a minor thing. That could limit the amount he plays in games and/or the amount of games he plays. The ankle on top of that just compounds issues.
If the Kings can trade down for him though would be awesome. Even as a 20-25 mpg player off the bench he'll help big time.
If the Kings can trade down for him though would be awesome. Even as a 20-25 mpg player off the bench he'll help big time.
It would be funny if after tonight we had;
Cousins for #2 / Randle / Clarkson
The #6 and Clarkson and Landry to Denver for Lawson/Faried
Draft Okafor at #2
Okafor
Faried/Randle
Gay
McLemore
Lawson/Collison
That's a pretty crappy looking team there. I would laugh but at the same time I would cry inside....
Cousins for #2 / Randle / Clarkson
The #6 and Clarkson and Landry to Denver for Lawson/Faried
Draft Okafor at #2
Okafor
Faried/Randle
Gay
McLemore
Lawson/Collison
That's a pretty crappy looking team there. I would laugh but at the same time I would cry inside....
