One AND ONLY Cousins trade rumors thread
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It's truly amazing how we can look at the Malone situation in Dec and how bad that was, then as a franchise decide "oh yeah, you haven't seen anything yet, let's show everyone how we can take it to a whole other level" only about 6 months later.
Now we've got even more leaks, Cuz demanding a trade, Karl going against Vlade and shopping our franchise player, while apparently the entire roster is up for sale with Nik and Rudy singled out.
We took Dec and made in 5X worse. Vivek's goal appears to be to surpass the Maloof legacy. Unbelievable.
Now we've got even more leaks, Cuz demanding a trade, Karl going against Vlade and shopping our franchise player, while apparently the entire roster is up for sale with Nik and Rudy singled out.
We took Dec and made in 5X worse. Vivek's goal appears to be to surpass the Maloof legacy. Unbelievable.
Above and beyond that the article states that Rondo is "intrigued" by a one year contract in Sacramento to rebuild his perception league wide.
So trading Gay (who just signed an extension) for a one year rental of Rondo after which you either have to give him a monster deal in the summer the cap explodes or lose him for nothing when he signs elsewhere? That's not 4 steps ahead Vivek. That's 8 steps behind.
I get that you want to make a splash to open your new arena but if that were really the case you would have kept Malone on as coach and let things build naturally.
I've gotten so tired of trying to parse the words of D'Alessandro, Ranadive, Cousins, Fegan, Karl, even Divac & Malone to try and figure out the true narrative here. And so tired of trying to to figure out how to assign blame for the awful decisions that have been made. From letting Evans go for nothing, signing Landry, trading for Williams, letting Thomas go for nothing, signing Royce White, drafting Stauskas after already drafting Ben, pushing Shareef out the door, trading away 2nd rounders left and right as if they have no value, failing to preserve cap space, trying to "win now" despite a lack of talent, constant media leaks, firing Malone, Signing Corbin, and now apparently hiring Karl as well as the complete and utter dysfunction that seems to surround this Kings team. I'm at the point where I don't care who "pulled the trigger" or whose decision any of these things are. When it comes down to it Vivek Ranadive is the managing owner of this team and it all falls at his feet.
We have a terrible owner, a rudderless franchise and the only star player on the team wants out and I'm finding it harder and harder to blame him.
Either fix things with DMC or you might as well blow the whole thing up. The idea that Cousins wants to be traded, the team seems (depending on whose report you read) willing to accommodate him and yet Vivek still believes the team will make the playoffs next year? Delusional.
But here's the thing. If Boogie wants out and Karl wants him out and there's simply no way around it then he's going to be traded. I'm furious about how things got to this point but if I'm Vlade and I've just been dropped into this mess what do I do? Because that's the one guy among the Kings organization (coaches, FO, ownership) that I actually have respect for at this point. If you're Vlade, what are your options? Tell Boogie and King George to make nice? Deal Cousins? I actually feel for Divac at this point.
And if there's no way forward except to trade Cousins, it has to be a full rebuild. Has to. But while I think I'm done as a Kings fan regardless when/if Boogie is dealt, I think the ultimate kick in the teeth would be some sort of garbage Cousins for Lawson/Faried type deal in the hope of being a playoff team right away. As I saw from a Sacramento fan on twitter this morning - "When I die I want the Sacramento Kings to lower my casket into the ground just so they can let me down one last time".
So completely frustrating to be a fan right now.
So trading Gay (who just signed an extension) for a one year rental of Rondo after which you either have to give him a monster deal in the summer the cap explodes or lose him for nothing when he signs elsewhere? That's not 4 steps ahead Vivek. That's 8 steps behind.
I get that you want to make a splash to open your new arena but if that were really the case you would have kept Malone on as coach and let things build naturally.
I've gotten so tired of trying to parse the words of D'Alessandro, Ranadive, Cousins, Fegan, Karl, even Divac & Malone to try and figure out the true narrative here. And so tired of trying to to figure out how to assign blame for the awful decisions that have been made. From letting Evans go for nothing, signing Landry, trading for Williams, letting Thomas go for nothing, signing Royce White, drafting Stauskas after already drafting Ben, pushing Shareef out the door, trading away 2nd rounders left and right as if they have no value, failing to preserve cap space, trying to "win now" despite a lack of talent, constant media leaks, firing Malone, Signing Corbin, and now apparently hiring Karl as well as the complete and utter dysfunction that seems to surround this Kings team. I'm at the point where I don't care who "pulled the trigger" or whose decision any of these things are. When it comes down to it Vivek Ranadive is the managing owner of this team and it all falls at his feet.
We have a terrible owner, a rudderless franchise and the only star player on the team wants out and I'm finding it harder and harder to blame him.
Either fix things with DMC or you might as well blow the whole thing up. The idea that Cousins wants to be traded, the team seems (depending on whose report you read) willing to accommodate him and yet Vivek still believes the team will make the playoffs next year? Delusional.
But here's the thing. If Boogie wants out and Karl wants him out and there's simply no way around it then he's going to be traded. I'm furious about how things got to this point but if I'm Vlade and I've just been dropped into this mess what do I do? Because that's the one guy among the Kings organization (coaches, FO, ownership) that I actually have respect for at this point. If you're Vlade, what are your options? Tell Boogie and King George to make nice? Deal Cousins? I actually feel for Divac at this point.
And if there's no way forward except to trade Cousins, it has to be a full rebuild. Has to. But while I think I'm done as a Kings fan regardless when/if Boogie is dealt, I think the ultimate kick in the teeth would be some sort of garbage Cousins for Lawson/Faried type deal in the hope of being a playoff team right away. As I saw from a Sacramento fan on twitter this morning - "When I die I want the Sacramento Kings to lower my casket into the ground just so they can let me down one last time".
So completely frustrating to be a fan right now.
I can hardly believe that Nik Stauskas is "rumor worthy". This is probably as notorious as he will ever be in the NBA - the tomato sauce last year and now a TRADE RUMOR??!! "Mom, look at the blogs - I'm the subject of a TRADE RUMOR!" Congrats kid - you made it.
I actually like Nik, but he is a nobody come on - on par with Jimmer.
I actually like Nik, but he is a nobody come on - on par with Jimmer.
Oh, basically the trade I asked about last week in the "Personnel Moves" section except I had them give us Nurkic as well, then had my thread locked because "it's too stupid to exist." I was just reading the tea leaves trying to find the best deal possible IF it came to that. That said, I really REALLY hope we can make it work with Cousins. Even with Nurkic, we'd be better off keeping Cousins, without Nurkic, I wouldn't even answer the phone for this deal.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...vek-ranadive-demarcus-cousins-trade/29143601/
Hes not getting traded!
Hes not getting traded!
That's the tough part now. If the reports are true its pretty much impossible to reconcile. I don't think Vlade takes any of the blame, we'll just have to hope he can build a winning team another way. On the other hand if the reports are true and yet somehow these guys get together and get past all this I would say Vlade is nothing short of a miracle worker and his hiring was inspired. I'll hope for the latter but I don't expect it at this point.
You nailed it Funky. From a basketball standpoint, they have to start over and the idea that they would rather have veteran than the 2 pick is nuts.
Except the problem is that our ownership group's business plan and most like financing requires them to be good enough to maintain the extremely aggressive prices they've set for the 16-17 and 17-18 seasons. That doesn't work with a rebuild and they don't want to loose a fortune or sell.
So, they will make any move that puts us in the 40-45 win range for 2-3 more seasons, no matter what, even if massively sacrifices long term potential and cements our reputation as the most bizarre place in the league.
Except the problem is that our ownership group's business plan and most like financing requires them to be good enough to maintain the extremely aggressive prices they've set for the 16-17 and 17-18 seasons. That doesn't work with a rebuild and they don't want to loose a fortune or sell.
So, they will make any move that puts us in the 40-45 win range for 2-3 more seasons, no matter what, even if massively sacrifices long term potential and cements our reputation as the most bizarre place in the league.
Brian K. Schmitz @MagicInsider 5h5 hours ago
League source tells Orlando Sentinel that Magic are not part of proposed 3-way trade that includes Nik Vucevic, contrary to ESPN's report.
League source tells Orlando Sentinel that Magic are not part of proposed 3-way trade that includes Nik Vucevic, contrary to ESPN's report.
Fegan is notorious for getting small market superstars into bigger markets and better situations. He was hired right after the relocation fiasco. Cousins he could have demanded leaving and not signed his deal at that point and it would have been totally justified. But being the loyal guy he is he gave us a second chance and even bought into Malone. He is perfectly justified in asking for a trade at this point, this dysfunctional stuff was suppose to be over by now.
Theres no one to throw this crap onto anymore, PDA and Mully are gone, now more than ever the blame clearly falls on Vivek.
Theres no one to throw this crap onto anymore, PDA and Mully are gone, now more than ever the blame clearly falls on Vivek.
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