[Grades] Grades v. Knicks 12/27/2014
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Very good point.
A lot of fans (and sadly knowledgeable fans) here who did not agree with the fast paced offense continue to malign the FO. The mob mentality and chaos created by such posters are awesome!
A lot of fans (and sadly knowledgeable fans) here who did not agree with the fast paced offense continue to malign the FO. The mob mentality and chaos created by such posters are awesome!
People here have a variety of opinions and they should all be allowed to express them provided they follow the rules of the forum. We are a microcosm of the entire Kings fanbase.
If that happens I can guarantee that those fraudsters will be driven out of town before they can blink. They didn't see the backlash from Malone firing coming, I think what they might have learnt from it (or I hope they did) is that this is nothing compared to what would happen if they even think about trading Cousins let alone actually do it! There would be NO ONE showing up at the bright new, shining arena. They they would really find out what it is like to pee off the fans. The Maloofs hatred in these parts would be a piece if pee compared to what Vivek and PDA would cop.
Those look like all star numbers to me. And they wont have the "Bad Attitude" excuse either this time. They are still talking like his short stint with USA basketball somehow magically transformed him into an overnight sensation. Completely ignoring the fact that Cousins was a beast last season and that the Kings coaching staff had more to do with Cousins breakout season not the month or so he spent with USA Basketball. But whatever. The East Coast talking heads believe their own hype and regurgitate their own narrative over and over till they believe themselves to be telling the truth.
If Cousins says healthy he is a LOCK for the Allstar game. If he doesnt get allstar consideration this season, then the allstar game and process are a joke. Best big man in basketball. Carrying a team on his shoulders. What does he have to do to get the respect he deserves? FO could help if they could hire an NBA Caliber Coach and pick up some quality players before the trade deadline. I do not have a lot of confidence in the FO however because the Malone firing is a red flag that they are NOT doing what is best for the team. Hopefully I am wrong.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm with the mob on the stupidity of firing Malone. Made absolutely no sense and still doesn't to fire a coach who while he obviously had some holes in his coaching performance that needed fixing, he was no where close to be needing to go.
But despite our obvious improvement, I still thought we were in line for some serious regression (not factoring in the Boogie injury, which set that regression in quickly) and would end the year somewhere around 38-42 wins. I still think that's the case moving forward as we get Boogie healthy, we adjust to losing Malone and get more comfortable with what Corbin wants from the team.
Essentially, I don't think this move will impact the W-L total of this season as others here think. We were going to be a 38ish win team before and will be with Corbin. Now long-term implications of this system and what the FO wants to run with their hand-picked coach/personal to fit it? That's where the main concern is past just this year.
But despite our obvious improvement, I still thought we were in line for some serious regression (not factoring in the Boogie injury, which set that regression in quickly) and would end the year somewhere around 38-42 wins. I still think that's the case moving forward as we get Boogie healthy, we adjust to losing Malone and get more comfortable with what Corbin wants from the team.
Essentially, I don't think this move will impact the W-L total of this season as others here think. We were going to be a 38ish win team before and will be with Corbin. Now long-term implications of this system and what the FO wants to run with their hand-picked coach/personal to fit it? That's where the main concern is past just this year.
apparently i'm not the only think kings are priming themselves for mully as HC
http://media.espn1320.net/a/100362783/the-rise-guys-cowbell-kingdom-s-james-ham.htm
http://media.espn1320.net/a/100362783/the-rise-guys-cowbell-kingdom-s-james-ham.htm
Interesting theory that the front office could be pulling a 2011-2012 Warriors. That team started off okay and then traded away Monta so they would have Bogut next year. I believe they also tanked a bit to keep their pick that turned into Harrison Barnes.
Could be that the Kings thought the Malone firing would work, quickly saw it blow up in their face and are now going to slowly drift back in the standings with that draft pick in question.
Could be that the Kings thought the Malone firing would work, quickly saw it blow up in their face and are now going to slowly drift back in the standings with that draft pick in question.
The theory has been brought up before but I think they have a LOT more to lose than gain with this. They way they are going at the moment, the renewal rate on the season tickets will be significantly decreased by the end of the season.
The fans are not buying what these guys are selling and its only going to get worse if they don't improve things fast.
The fans are not buying what these guys are selling and its only going to get worse if they don't improve things fast.
I've got a real problem with that theory for the simple reason there are no guarantees in the draft (GregOden, anyone?) and we're way past the point of getting appreciably better through one draft. We need to make the Kings attractive for free agents and that doesn't come with a fall back towards the cellar.
We had hope and they've taken it away. We are not going to be anywhere near as patient or understanding this time around for the simple fact we've seen it all before. They need to get George Karl in here and start putting some wins together and show real improvement. If they don't, those 17,317 games will once again be a thing of the past. And they cannot afford that. They absolutely MUST keep fans in the seats and that won't happen if they "slowly drift back in the standings."
We had hope and they've taken it away. We are not going to be anywhere near as patient or understanding this time around for the simple fact we've seen it all before. They need to get George Karl in here and start putting some wins together and show real improvement. If they don't, those 17,317 games will once again be a thing of the past. And they cannot afford that. They absolutely MUST keep fans in the seats and that won't happen if they "slowly drift back in the standings."
the last couple 17,317 games have been very fishy. One of the ones last week (can't remember the exact game) i could see on TV that almost entire sections in the upper level were empty.
i was at the game last night which i believe Scott Moak tweeted was a sellout, and i would say it wasn't close. I understand not every person who buys a ticket can make it to the game (and right now there's probably a large group just deciding not to spend the gas/parking to even go) but this was just not close to a sellout
i was at the game last night which i believe Scott Moak tweeted was a sellout, and i would say it wasn't close. I understand not every person who buys a ticket can make it to the game (and right now there's probably a large group just deciding not to spend the gas/parking to even go) but this was just not close to a sellout
Do you see a scenario where the Kings hire George Karl and our team doesn't reach 40 wins because of injuries and other factors?
I think if the FO hires Karl and shows some excitement for next season, fans will still be on aboard. A lot of fans weren't expecting much out of the Kings this season. If we had not started 5-1 and 9-5, I guarantee you a lot of people would be happy about the 13-17 record we're currently at.
I do not see how the Kings can realistically get into the playoffs this season because of how good teams are this year. Would not be surprised if you had to be around .600 to get the 8th spot in the West this year.
I think if the FO hires Karl and shows some excitement for next season, fans will still be on aboard. A lot of fans weren't expecting much out of the Kings this season. If we had not started 5-1 and 9-5, I guarantee you a lot of people would be happy about the 13-17 record we're currently at.
I do not see how the Kings can realistically get into the playoffs this season because of how good teams are this year. Would not be surprised if you had to be around .600 to get the 8th spot in the West this year.
I don't see making the playoffs as a "must do" for the simple yet real reason the West is just too deep. If they hire George Karl and we see improvement and consistency and a real plan, that will be enough. People who have been fans as long as I have don't need to see the playoffs every year, although it's certainly a lot more fun.
Empty seats don't mean the tickets weren't sold. Lots of times blocks are tickets are purchased by various organizations, companies, etc. for resale or distribution and then - for whatever reason - not given out. In addition, there may have been a number of fans who didn't come because of a wide variety of reasons.
Assuming we only got a very limited amount of time to turn this franchise into a contender, cause DMC will walk in FA, if he doesn't feel, that he can win it all with the Kings and will waste his chances to top off his career with a title - eventually becoming one of those great athletes, that never reached the ultimate goal.
Assuming the FO saw weaknesses in our playstyle, that led them to the conclusion, that we won't develop into a contender with Malone, but they wanted to give him a certain amount of time to fix thoses weaknesses (most likely: ball movement, play calling and execution, turnovers, transition). They took the first chance to fire Malone and to alter our playstyle, knowing that we would lose a few more games this season, but have a chance to be more used to the new playstyle at the beginning of the next season, able to really have a chance to step into the playoffs. Is it really that dumb?
All those 4vs5, run and gun, nellie ball, junk ball hyperboles aren't what we see on the court right now are they? We saw a slightly faster pace, a bit more pick&roll instead of countless ISO plays and a concerning lack of defensive effort. I didn't see someone cherry picking or a team that mindlessly jacks up shots early in the clock, without giving the ball to DMC.
Question is, if the lack of Defense is really related to the new playstyle or if it's a natural reaction of highly frustrated players, that saw a well liked coach being fired mid season.
Like someone rightfully pointed out - a faster, more fluid playstyle doesn't mean, that you can't play defense. Maybe it alters the way you have to play defense and maybe this is a step this team needs to take next.
Maybe this whole thing blows up right into the FO face. It was a very high risk that PDA took. It looks like, that we are trying to take 3 steps at the same time and to overhaul this franchise as fast as possible.
Assuming the FO saw weaknesses in our playstyle, that led them to the conclusion, that we won't develop into a contender with Malone, but they wanted to give him a certain amount of time to fix thoses weaknesses (most likely: ball movement, play calling and execution, turnovers, transition). They took the first chance to fire Malone and to alter our playstyle, knowing that we would lose a few more games this season, but have a chance to be more used to the new playstyle at the beginning of the next season, able to really have a chance to step into the playoffs. Is it really that dumb?
All those 4vs5, run and gun, nellie ball, junk ball hyperboles aren't what we see on the court right now are they? We saw a slightly faster pace, a bit more pick&roll instead of countless ISO plays and a concerning lack of defensive effort. I didn't see someone cherry picking or a team that mindlessly jacks up shots early in the clock, without giving the ball to DMC.
Question is, if the lack of Defense is really related to the new playstyle or if it's a natural reaction of highly frustrated players, that saw a well liked coach being fired mid season.
Like someone rightfully pointed out - a faster, more fluid playstyle doesn't mean, that you can't play defense. Maybe it alters the way you have to play defense and maybe this is a step this team needs to take next.
Maybe this whole thing blows up right into the FO face. It was a very high risk that PDA took. It looks like, that we are trying to take 3 steps at the same time and to overhaul this franchise as fast as possible.
That excuse gets washed away by the fact that come next season, there will be a new coach who will be implementing his system to best utilize his players. That is, or at least should be controlled by the coach and not the owners or the front office. This theory that we are learning this now so that we are better next season is a hogwash as the coach will be different and as such the system will be different. Unless of course our coach next season will be Chris Mullin and Corbin is just a muppett implementing his system in the mean time. If this is true then this whole thing is even more concerning than the current situation and will lead to a lot of fans turning their backs on renewing season tickets.
This team was just starting to build its own identity and just starting to become a good defensive team and all that got pissed on because some imbeciles did not see enough glitz and glamour ithe way we were playing. Pathetic!
This team was just starting to build its own identity and just starting to become a good defensive team and all that got pissed on because some imbeciles did not see enough glitz and glamour ithe way we were playing. Pathetic!