Malone fired

funkykingston

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How is the 49er's position not worse?
I wasn't saying one was worse than the other. I was saying they were completely different. Different sport, different personalities, different issues.

If you want a reason why the 49ers position isn't worse it's because they actually had three (and still possibly four) winning seasons before parting ways with their coach.

Would you rather it be because of friction of the coach vs FO, or would you rather it be disagreement on team's scheme?
Why should it be either? The Kings were playing well and even after their skid without DeMarcus they were still on pace to win 10 more games than last season. If with him they returned to the play that got them to 9-6 they could still win 45 games. Our team's owner hired a coach first and then hired GM that was opposed to that philosophically. I'm not sure how that's Malone's fault.

After Demarcus Cousins was injured, I saw the same 2013 Kings. So when your all star player goes down, you're supposed to accept sucking?
I don't recall anyone saying that we should accept that. But not being satisfied with the team's play and punting on the season by firing your coach and going with an interim solution doesn't seem like a rational answer to me.

Why would they continue to stick with Malone if they felt like he wasn't going to impliment their plan for this team? Why would you keep an employee who kept doing all the things opposite of what you want them to do?
To me the proof is in the pudding. There's a reason that the national media was picking up on the Kings as a surprise team. They were defying expectations and not in a lucky or smoke-and-mirrors way but with a grind it out defense, strong rebounding and taking the ball to the hoop aggressively. Yes, Malone should do what his bosses wanted as any employee should. But I'm not an employee of the Kings and MY question is whether PDA's "plan" will bear fruit. Vivek says he expects playoffs THIS season. Pete's vision better provide that.

We all fear losing, no doubt. How do you know we wouldn't have continued our losing pattern even with Malone though? There's no way we can tell. You can say we were on track to win 30-40 more games, but how do you know? With our 5-1 start, we were on track to win around 60 games this year.
I don't have to predict the future. I saw improvement in the games that were played. I saw better defensive rotations. I saw more (but still not enough) ball movement. I saw a team identity being formed and a gameplan that would let them compete in nearly every game that Cousins played. And I saw room for growth from our players and our coach. I saw a path to success. I don't see that now. I see uncertainty and a much better chance of an eventual collapse and rebuild.

It's like those who said that losing Isaiah Thomas would make our team terrible. And if he were on this team, we'd win 50 games and he'd be the solution to all of our bench problems. We don't know any of that for sure.

It's all the what if's that no one will ever know.
I have no idea who said anything remotely like that about Isaiah. It certainly wasn't me. And I'm not playing the "what if" game. I saw a better product on the floor and then I saw a GM say that product wasn't good enough because he wanted a more exciting style and an owner who said he wanted improvisational jazz on the offensive end. In short, I see a lot more "what ifs" now than before they fired their coach.
 
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The improving part is a given. But, based solely on reactions of a lot of members of this forum, weren't there a number of games the majority blamed Malone for losing, games pretty much all concerned felt we really should have won?

That, in a nutshell, is what I keep thinking about. There were early wins, sure, but then there were the incomprehensible losses that are much harder to move on from...
Yeah, but I think most of us were pretty ok with letting this team and coach grow together. I certainly wasn't as critical of the coaching as some people.

And bottom line, does anyone truly think Corbin is any better? Cause that's what it's looking like we are stuck with for the rest of the year. Sure, fire malone for a proven guy. But they haven't done that. Corbin isn't proven. He has head coaching experience. But he failed. And he's not at all what they say they want.

It's going to take me a bit to get over this. He would be the Clippers head coach right now if he wasn't hired by the Kings. The Clippers!! A top 5 team!

My flabberghastation continues unabated.
I'm with ya. We actually get an in demand coach, he starts succeeding. And we immediately throw him out with the trash. It's just so hard to comprehend what happened.

I will bet my first born child that Karl has been contacted,
hey!
 
That's a much easier task for a new coach when he has the offseason to plan and training camp to install his system. Not only did I not think the firing was fair to Malone, I thought it was unfair to Tyrone Corbin. He's not being put in a position to succeed.

I guess that what flabbergasts me about this whole thing. If Malone wasn't your guy then why not replace him this summer? And if you weren't prepared to replace him this summer, what exactly did he do in the first third of this season to completely change your mind?
I think it's that he told them (pda/Mullin) to get the bleep off his back and let him coach. Speculation of course, but that sounds about right to me.
 

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To say nothing of the pre-crash threads: the original No Topic thread broke 10K, IIRC. And the only reason why none of hq's word association games ever hit 10K is because they always got shut down at the end of TDOS... And I'm sure that the Game 6 [Game] thread got pretty long, too.
 
To say nothing of the pre-crash threads: the original No Topic thread broke 10K, IIRC. And the only reason why none of hq's word association games ever hit 10K is because they always got shut down at the end of TDOS... And I'm sure that the Game 6 [Game] thread got pretty long, too.
You could start a game 6 thread now and get a pretty decent conversation going.
 
"What they did to that coach Malone out in Sacramento is a joke. I mean, it's just another bad move by a mediocre organization. Bad organizations make bad decisions. It's just a joke they fired their coach without his best player cousins who's been playing like an all-star before he got hurt. They had their best record in ten years. I did my research, or my staff did, and they have their best record in 10 years, they've missed their best player for basically three weeks.. That they fire their coach with their best record in ten years shows me they just don't know what they're doing out there. And they might get bailed out by getting the great George Karl, who should be in the NBA. But that was just a turrible decision."-Charles Barkley
 
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i'm waiting for the next gimmicky line from them. position-less, nba 3.0, jazz director.. what's next?
Did you miss this one?

“It’s kinda like we were in San Quentin,” Ranadive said. “Now we’re in Motel 6. But I want to go to the Four Seasons.”

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nba/sacramento-kings/article4602406.html#storylink=cpy

If I squint really hard, I can see him becoming lovably goofy with the crazy things he says.

That would require winning. A lot of it.
 
Did you miss this one?

“It’s kinda like we were in San Quentin,” Ranadive said. “Now we’re in Motel 6. But I want to go to the Four Seasons.”

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nba/sacramento-kings/article4602406.html#storylink=cpy

If I squint really hard, I can see him becoming lovably goofy with the crazy things he says.

That would require winning. A lot of it.
I love your new avatar.

If Brick gets to coin PDA's nickname. I'm coining Vivik's, with your help. If he want to be one of the guys, he's going to have to take some ribbing.

Vivek "Jazz Hands" Ranadive. A salute to his meddling nature and his oh so seasoned knowledge of basketball.
 
Watching the furious warriors offense i can see why anyone would want to run this.

But there talent level is thru the roof, perhaps the most talented top to bottom roster in the NBA.

They wanna run this with our roster? going to be painful to watch.