Kings comments that don't warrant their own thread

[Prince_XY]

Coaches and players alike are now on high alert that even if you do well, if you don't fit into what they (AKA Vivek) want, you are gone.

Excuse me, but we are not doing well at 11-13 with most winnable games turned into losses and the coach showing stupid mistakes over and over again. That should send a great message to everyone in this team.

If we are 14-10 (or 15-9), meaning we won those games against the bottom dweller teams, Malone probably will still be coaching.

We should be rejoicing. We are going down for sure with Malone at the helm. We should thank Vivek made a swift move to hopefully salvage a bit of what was left of hope. Malone just have to go.

 

[Sac.Kings]

Excuse me, but we are not doing well at 11-13 with most winnable games turned into losses and the coach showing stupid mistakes over and over again. That should send a great message to everyone in this team.

If we are 14-10 (or 15-9), meaning we won those games against the bottom dweller teams, Malone probably will still be coaching.

We should be rejoicing. We are going down for sure with Malone at the helm. We should thank Vivek made a swift move to hopefully salvage a bit of what was left of hope. Malone just have to go.

I was a harsh critic of Malone's. I blamed him for a lot of our losses due to poor management of the players and in game adjustments. However, that isn't what is being said by PDA (which is what everyone will hear and read). He is saying that it was philosophical differences, or in other words, opposing ways of thinking. Malone thought one way, everyone else thought the other. Also, Malone was doing well while he had Cousins, and that's what the media is using. The media is making it look like we just fired a coach that was doing quite well with Cousins, and when Cousins went out, we got worse quickly, and we fired him because of that. The media is what is heard, even if we know better/otherwise.

I am comfortable with the coaching change if we get George Karl, anyone else I am far less comfortable. If it is Mullens, I am downright furious. I hope this is the last coaching change for a while because we desperately need stability. This can't be happening so often, otherwise we will just be going in circles for eternity.

 

[Bricklayer]

Excuse me, but we are not doing well at 11-13 with most winnable games turned into losses and the coach showing stupid mistakes over and over again. That should send a great message to everyone in this team.

If we are 14-10 (or 15-9), meaning we won those games against the bottom dweller teams, Malone probably will still be coaching.

We should be rejoicing. We are going down for sure with Malone at the helm. We should thank Vivek made a swift move to hopefully salvage a bit of what was left of hope. Malone just have to go.

Well that's pleasantly stupid reasoning.

Gregg Popovich lost an NBA Finals two years ago. Should have fired himself.

You do NOT fire a young coach that has a team playing hard for a couple of spare losses. Unless you are an idiot. Called growing pains.

 

[Prince_XY]

Well that's pleasantly stupid reasoning.

Gregg Popovich lost an NBA Finals two years ago. Should have fired himself.

You do NOT fire a young coach that has a team playing hard for a couple of spare losses. Unless you are an idiot. Called growing pains.

This analogy is more stupid I think. Would you really fire a championship winning/decorated/proven coach for failing to win another championship after winning 3-4 in the recent past?

You are the one preaching this team should be in a must-win mode now, lest we lose Cousins for constantly losing. We all know coach Malone is not experienced, still learning the ropes, and based on his first 24 games he had shown he is capable of doing some very stupid mistakes that only a stupid coach can do. Stupid mistakes that can cause the team to lose several winnable games that will matter at the end of the season.


And now, you are fuming mad at the owner for taking a drastic move to improve the team?

And now when it comes to Malone you are invoking growing pains?

Where do you really stand?

It seems to me you are always taking the safe side of the isle, so you can always say "I told you I was right".

 

[Bricklayer]

This analogy is more stupid I think. Would you really fire a championship winning/decorated/proven coach for failing to win another championship after winning 3-4 in the recent past?

You are the one preaching this team should be in a must-win mode now, lest we lose Cousins for constantly losing. We all know coach Malone is not experienced, still learning the ropes, and based on his first 24 games he had shown he is capable of doing some very stupid mistakes that only a stupid coach can do. Stupid mistakes that can cause the team to lose several winnable games that will matter at the end of the season.


And now, you are fuming mad at the owner for taking a drastic move to improve the team?

And now when it comes to Malone you are invoking growing pains?

Where do you really stand?

It seems to me you are always taking the safe side of the isle, so you can always say "I told you I was right".

Let me explain this to you very clearly, and very simply:

Until 24 hours ago this was a team on the way up. You had a young coach, and a youngish team, and most importantly, the young team believed in the young coach and were fighting hard. The ONLY reason the young team had lost its startling mojo to start the season is that the team's franchise player had gone down, and management had not provided much of a safety cushion for that situation. Even with that disaster, the team was still off to its best start since the only other decent coach in its history was at the helm. Furthermore, the young coach had implemented a style of play rarely seen in the modern NBA to take advantage of a star player the likes of which was rarely seen in the modern NBA, and the young coach had focused on areas of deficiency (rebounding, defense, interior play) that for 30 years have plagued the Kings franchise and made them one of the very worst franchises in the modern NBA. THIS coach had for the very first time in 9 years caused a Kings team to rally behind him and start making noise. He was an absolute pillar of that rise.

ANYTHING that happened as part of that framework would still result in the franchise rising. The great danger was precisely what happened here. The entire upset of having Cousins go down when he did as that idiots from outside would still have the power to tear down this structure. This was precisely the sort of disastrous slop that I was trying to warn people about as losses mounted. This was why I said that the timing was absolutely ludicrously bad, and that had the same thing happened in March it would have been infinitely preferable even if it cost us the playoffs. Because all that we needed now was time to build this success, to establish this personality, and then we were set, we were on our way as a rough and tumble power team built aroudn the league's premiere power player. Given even 3 more months of play at the level we had started off, Gerbil would have been powerless to **** this up. He wouldn't have dared. Vivek would have had to stuff his little glitter unicorn covered notebook of middle school plays back in his pocket for good.

 

[Spike]

Given even 3 more months of play at the level we had started off, Gerbil would have been powerless to **** this up. He wouldn't have dared. Vivek would have had to stuff his little glitter unicorn covered notebook of middle school plays back in his pocket for good.

Exactly this, which is why PDA was waiting for the first slide to make a move. He knew this was his best opportunity. If Vivek is as smart as he says he is, there is no way he would rock the boat with a winning team, which is why PDA couldn't can him sooner.

I'm sure he saw the schedule and assumed a poor start. Malone likely would have been gone ten games in. This was his only chance, he realized it, and took it. When you get down to brass tacks, it was a very selfish move by an insecure person.

Basketball is a game of runs. We threw in the towel after the first quarter.

 

[King Baller]

Excuse me, but we are not doing well at 11-13 with most winnable games turned into losses and the coach showing stupid mistakes over and over again. That should send a great message to everyone in this team.

If we are 14-10 (or 15-9), meaning we won those games against the bottom dweller teams, Malone probably will still be coaching.

We should be rejoicing. We are going down for sure with Malone at the helm. We should thank Vivek made a swift move to hopefully salvage a bit of what was left of hope. Malone just have to go.

The difference between 11 -13 and 14 - 10 is THREE FREAKING GAMES. Are you telling me you fire a coach due to three losses?? At a time when the best center in the association is sidelined with illness??

No it is just as Spike describes. PDA was laying in the weeds waiting for a slip up so he could can Malone. Malone has been standing his ground on how he wants to run a team and that is not what Vivek, Mullin and PDA want.

If they wanted Malone gone they should have done it in the off season.

KB

 

[Chubbs]

That is all because coach Pop has always been good.

We are lucky our owner really cares about winning and continuously find ways to upgrade the team. He was true to his words when he said the team will be graded according to winning or losing.

He could have stayed with an under-performing and inexperienced coach, forget that we are losing winnable games, and stay on our path to doom - all to save money.

We should be thankful for an owner like Vivek.

But he doesn't care about winning. PDA confirmed this morning even at 16-9 they'd fire Malone.

You're really not listening to what they're saying. It's about style. Wins don't matter. Long term they are about style and the winning was just an annoyance that forced them to wait for an excuse to fire Malone.

NOTHING coming from PDA indicates this is about winning. He's been very clear on that. Well, as clear as he can be. Lying is in his nature. Fact is, they just needed an excuse to fire Malone and throw this season (and likely whatever future this franchise had) away. They took it gladly.

This team WILL get worse as a result of this. The team will give up. They have a puppet coach, who will try to instill the nonsense Vivek and his cronies demand. Malone wouldn't and got fired for that alone. Wake up.

 

[Amit149]

I just thought of the greatest baketball tactic ever (well 2nd after the cherry-picking) !!!!!

let's sign Tim Tebow as our quarterback! we all know Cousins is big and strong, so my sugestion is while one of our players will wait on the other side of the court and cherry pick, we need to things- 1. to grab the rebound, 2. to make the pass.

Tebow will sit on Cousins back- Chicken fight style- and then grab the rebound easily, you know because together they will be the tallest player in NBA history... and then when they get the rebound he will do a quarterback pass (you know, because he is a quarterback) to the player cherry picking!!! and he is a free agent!!! and a big name!!! that is the BEST IDEA EVER!!!!!

oh! i forgot- they could also block a lot of shots because they will be a really tall dude together- its the gift that keeps on giving!!!

 

[Prince_XY]

Too bad for all of us, at the end of the day WE ARE ALL JUST FANS and not smart enough to have a good resume to be in power like Vivek and PDA.

This world is unfair!

 

[macadocious]

Kings twitter feed is posting vines of Ben and Derrick shooting 3's. Interesting after all the statements on style are concerned.

 

[Bricklayer]

Too bad for all of us, at the end of the day WE ARE ALL JUST FANS and not smart enough to have a good resume to be in power like Vivek and PDA.

This world is unfair!

Speak for yourself.

 

[PurpleHaze]

Ranadive machinations. What does it all mean? BTW, what does that favorite hand sign of his mean??

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-b...-vivek-ranadive-s-machinations-231640492.html

 

[VF21]

BTW, what does that favorite hand sign of his mean??

Hang loose.

 

[Spike]

Too bad for all of us, at the end of the day WE ARE ALL JUST FANS and not smart enough to have a good resume to be in power like Vivek and PDA.

This world is unfair!

Oh we've got the smarts, just not the money.

 

[King Baller]

Ranadive machinations. What does it all mean? BTW, what does that favorite hand sign of his mean??

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-b...-vivek-ranadive-s-machinations-231640492.html

That is a great article. I forgot Cuban kept Nellie around for awhile instead of canning the whole old Regime:

“I really tried to learn,” Cuban said. “That’s why I didn’t make any changes when I first got there on the basketball side, because I wasn’t smart enough to know where to go or what changes to make. I feel [Ranadive’s] pain. It’s not easy. It is not easy. And you make mistakes.”

 

[Mad D]

http://uproxx.com/smokingsection/2014/12/demarcus-cousins-shopping-spree/
Someone on this site I visit wrote an pretty nice article about Demarcus taking his daughter Christmas shopping.

Just about all the comments are positive towards Demarcus as a ball player and the current Kings squad. At least the ones I skimmed over.

 

[Glenn]

That is a great article. I forgot Cuban kept Nellie around for awhile instead of canning the whole old Regime:

“I really tried to learn,” Cuban said. “That’s why I didn’t make any changes when I first got there on the basketball side, because I wasn’t smart enough to know where to go or what changes to make. I feel [Ranadive’s] pain. It’s not easy. It is not easy. And you make mistakes.”

I didn't know how Cuban approached the team but some people DO check out the lay of the land, so to speak, before making wholesale changes.