Draft position thread
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You mean we can't pick worse than 9th? We're currently holding the 7th worst record as far as I can see. I'm assuming this is what you mean, but your post is a little ambiguous (or at least I interpreted it as so!).
In theory we can finish with joint 4th worst record, but that won't happen. Looks very likely we'll stay at 7, unless the Lakers win a a few of their last games (they won't), or we win a couple and drop to 8th behind the Pistons (we may well do this).
In theory we can finish with joint 4th worst record, but that won't happen. Looks very likely we'll stay at 7, unless the Lakers win a a few of their last games (they won't), or we win a couple and drop to 8th behind the Pistons (we may well do this).
I think Capt. meant that the Kings will end up with, "at best," the 9th worst record. Which means that, worst-case scenario on lotto day, they could pick as low as 12. Because this year's pick is top-12 protected, the Kings are guaranteed to keep the pick (always likely, of course, but now assured).
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Who or what do we trade to get the #14 pick from Phoenix to get Cauley-Stein?
Too bad we can't trade IT...
If we draft Exum or another pg then I guess we could get rid of Ray Mac for a #14 or #17 pick but I don't know if Cauely Stein would already be picked or not. I wouldn't trade down with our pick. If we get 7th pick overall, I think he have a good chance of getting a potential star. You don't give up a lottery pick in this years draft...just no.
I also wouldn't mind Julius Randle in this team. I know he's not a great defender and shot blocker but next season Cousins could very likely be averaging 2 steals per game and 2 blocks per game. He's really worked hard to improve his defense and I have no doubt Shaq is the culprit for that.
However, my #1 choice barring the obvious 1-4 (Exum, Wiggins, Parker, Embiid) picks is Noah Vonleh. This kid can do a little bit of everything and everything we need at that PF spot. It would be a dream to get him but our chances of 4-5 are close to none. I don't see him getting picked after 5 but I guess crazier things have happened. Maybe the Lakers take Randle
Too bad we can't trade IT...
If we draft Exum or another pg then I guess we could get rid of Ray Mac for a #14 or #17 pick but I don't know if Cauely Stein would already be picked or not. I wouldn't trade down with our pick. If we get 7th pick overall, I think he have a good chance of getting a potential star. You don't give up a lottery pick in this years draft...just no.
I also wouldn't mind Julius Randle in this team. I know he's not a great defender and shot blocker but next season Cousins could very likely be averaging 2 steals per game and 2 blocks per game. He's really worked hard to improve his defense and I have no doubt Shaq is the culprit for that.
However, my #1 choice barring the obvious 1-4 (Exum, Wiggins, Parker, Embiid) picks is Noah Vonleh. This kid can do a little bit of everything and everything we need at that PF spot. It would be a dream to get him but our chances of 4-5 are close to none. I don't see him getting picked after 5 but I guess crazier things have happened. Maybe the Lakers take Randle
Who or what do we trade to get the #14 pick from Phoenix to get Cauley-Stein?
Too bad we can't trade IT...
If we draft Exum or another pg then I guess we could get rid of Ray Mac for a #14 or #17 pick but I don't know if Cauely Stein would already be picked or not. I wouldn't trade down with our pick. If we get 7th pick overall, I think he have a good chance of getting a potential star. You don't give up a lottery pick in this years draft...just no.
I also wouldn't mind Julius Randle in this team. I know he's not a great defender and shot blocker but next season Cousins could very likely be averaging 2 steals per game and 2 blocks per game. He's really worked hard to improve his defense and I have no doubt Shaq is the culprit for that.
However, my #1 choice barring the obvious 1-4 (Exum, Wiggins, Parker, Embiid) picks is Noah Vonleh. This kid can do a little bit of everything and everything we need at that PF spot. It would be a dream to get him but our chances of 4-5 are close to none. I don't see him getting picked after 5 but I guess crazier things have happened. Maybe the Lakers take Randle
Too bad we can't trade IT...
If we draft Exum or another pg then I guess we could get rid of Ray Mac for a #14 or #17 pick but I don't know if Cauely Stein would already be picked or not. I wouldn't trade down with our pick. If we get 7th pick overall, I think he have a good chance of getting a potential star. You don't give up a lottery pick in this years draft...just no.
I also wouldn't mind Julius Randle in this team. I know he's not a great defender and shot blocker but next season Cousins could very likely be averaging 2 steals per game and 2 blocks per game. He's really worked hard to improve his defense and I have no doubt Shaq is the culprit for that.
However, my #1 choice barring the obvious 1-4 (Exum, Wiggins, Parker, Embiid) picks is Noah Vonleh. This kid can do a little bit of everything and everything we need at that PF spot. It would be a dream to get him but our chances of 4-5 are close to none. I don't see him getting picked after 5 but I guess crazier things have happened. Maybe the Lakers take Randle
You mean Gordon can't shoot? Just go ahead and pop my balloon.... By the way, in regards to McDermott, is there a difference between trying to defend, and actually defending. I know your referring to Fredette, and I know that some want to compare McDermott to Fredette. But McDermott does defend, its a matter of how well, and how that translates to the NBA. A question to which I have no answer...
Just go ahead and pop my balloon.... By the way, in regards to McDermott, is there a difference between trying to defend, and actually defending. I know your referring to Fredette, and I know that some want to compare McDermott to Fredette. But McDermott does defend, its a matter of how well, and how that translates to the NBA. A question to which I have no answer...I remember a study, that showed, that every year 2 top-10 players are out of the league by the end of their rookie contracts, and 2 others end up 8-9th gut type. Of course it's averages, but at least one of each will happen this year as well. It's not just lack of skills, but also physical inability to handle 82-games season (Embiid broke down in the middle of 38-games one). Some have too much pressure and shut down, others get taste of millions and lose motivation to work on their game.
I think the biggest reason for top ten failures is because of the one thing that's hardest to measure. The human element. It's hard to measure a players heart and dedication. However, I do think some telltale signs are always there. unfortunately we tend to let a players overwhelming talent blind us to those signs. Every single player is different because of what's between his ears. Of course there are the Jimmer's of the world, that are loaded with heart and desire, but just lack the tools to accomplish what their brain tells them to do. But your right, there will be some big disappointments this year just like other years.
I think Stauskas is going to be a pretty good NBA player. You and I can agree or disagree on that. Truth is, no one knows for sure. So let me ask you this. How do you think he stacks up against Klay Thompson at the same point in time. I think Thompson was a junior when he came out, but some of the same questions that were asked about Thompson are being asked about Stauskas. People questioned whether Thompson could defend at the NBA level. They questioned whether he was athletic enough. In fact, I'd say that Stauskas is a little better athlete than Thompson, and without a doubt is a better shooter at the same point in time. He's also a better finisher at the basket than Thompson was in college.
Since everyone seems to be in love with Thompson, what is it that makes you think Stauskas can't be just as good a player as Thompson. If indeed that's what you think. If all your doing is trying to get everyone to take off their rose colored glasses, then I understand. There are no guarantee's.
Since everyone seems to be in love with Thompson, what is it that makes you think Stauskas can't be just as good a player as Thompson. If indeed that's what you think. If all your doing is trying to get everyone to take off their rose colored glasses, then I understand. There are no guarantee's.
They are comparable talents, and I don't have a problem with anyone drafting him in early teens, maybe even #9 or #10.
I think, Klay was a better shooter, while Nik is a significantly better playmaker in college. Klay is longer. Klay's only elite skill is his shooting, he can make nice passes to find the open man, if he's being closed out aggressively, but it's not a major part of his offense, so having them as comparable prospects means I don't see Stauskas as a major creator, ever getting to 4-5 apg on a good team.
I think, Klay was a better shooter, while Nik is a significantly better playmaker in college. Klay is longer. Klay's only elite skill is his shooting, he can make nice passes to find the open man, if he's being closed out aggressively, but it's not a major part of his offense, so having them as comparable prospects means I don't see Stauskas as a major creator, ever getting to 4-5 apg on a good team.
Well Klay is a better shooter now, or should I say, a proven shooter at the NBA level. But if you compare them at the same point in time at the college level, Stauskas is the better shooter, although not by a lot, shooting 44% from the three and 47% overall, compared to Thompsons 39% from the three and 46% overall. Where Thompson does have the advantage is with his overall length. he could easily play the SF position, which is what he played at Wash St. In no way do I see Stauskas playing SF. I mean he probably will at some point, but only in matchup situations where you need another good shooter on the floor.
Well, defender caught in a screen while on the move, stupid jump of another and good stutter step against average athlete. Such moves work in the pros for good ballhandlers, though they will usually get much more resistance at the rim and these situations happen once, maybe twice a game: if you notice, all 5 defenders return by the time he steps into the paint. Still don't see "elite first step" and "gorgeous hard dribbles".
Well, ideally you want to get the best player for your position. How's that NBA ready PF or secondary ballhandler/elite shooter next to Tyreke working out? And it's not like this team couldn't use more ballhandling, shooting and overall unselfish play. Stauskas is skilled, smart, really improved athletically and made a big jump statistically between seasons - one could argue he's one of the safer bets in the lottery and pretty close to contributing.
It's unlikely, but not impossible. Utah is just as pathetic as the Lakers and San Antonio is probably going to rest Duncan and Ginobili now that they've clinched home court advantage for the finals. I bet the Spurs win anyway, but the Lakers stumbling into a couple wins here at the end is a little bit more than fantasy. Boston plays Philly so they may pick up a win too and still end up in 5th by themselves. Somehow this always comes down to 1 or 2 wins and a weird scheduling quirk like us sweeping a back-to-back with Phoenix early in the season when Bledsoe was injured. The draft lottery has never done us any favors regardless. It's still just dumb luck.