Jimmer Fredette
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Lin broke out the first opportunity he got. The other guys were never on the verge of not being in the league.
Bobby Jackson and Christie were playing in a rotation if not starting before they came. Same with Barry. Maxwell didn't get better with the Kings. His game stayed the same.
I'm not saying Jimmer won't get better over time or with a change of scenery. But I wouldn't bet on it based on what I've seen. He's an NBA player, just borderline at this point. And I think league talent evaluators know it.
Bobby Jackson and Christie were playing in a rotation if not starting before they came. Same with Barry. Maxwell didn't get better with the Kings. His game stayed the same.
I'm not saying Jimmer won't get better over time or with a change of scenery. But I wouldn't bet on it based on what I've seen. He's an NBA player, just borderline at this point. And I think league talent evaluators know it.
Also, Jimmer needs a new agent. His current representation first signed him to a shoe deal with Spalding?? Anyone wear Spalding? I didn't think so. Second, he needs to rock the boat. Get pissed off. What does he have to lose. It's ridiculous he doesn't play more. His agent will have his work cut out for him this summer. Make or break for Jimmer's basketball future. I don't know who his agent is but he needs an upgrade. He still has a legion of followers and his game is improving. He just needs the right fit.
1. There is no way that Jimmer signs with the Kings.
2. Of course Jimmer will be better when he is no longer with the Kings. That's how it goes with almost every ex-King who wasn't/isn't a selfish ball-stopper (they are the ones with inflated stats).
3. Some of you here can't wait til the Jimmer fans are gone. Well, some of us will be happy to no longer be following a dumpster fire organization and team, led by The Three Cancers, whose coach regularly expresses disdain for his team (he needs some credibility), having voluntarily watched some of the very worst basketball we have ever seen. Having said that, I think some of you are great fans and have shown me that you have incredible loyalty (for reasons unknown).
2. Of course Jimmer will be better when he is no longer with the Kings. That's how it goes with almost every ex-King who wasn't/isn't a selfish ball-stopper (they are the ones with inflated stats).
3. Some of you here can't wait til the Jimmer fans are gone. Well, some of us will be happy to no longer be following a dumpster fire organization and team, led by The Three Cancers, whose coach regularly expresses disdain for his team (he needs some credibility), having voluntarily watched some of the very worst basketball we have ever seen. Having said that, I think some of you are great fans and have shown me that you have incredible loyalty (for reasons unknown).
And this is why I despise player fans and why there will always be issues between Kings fans and player fans.
I will say I have respect for Npliam as he's a good poster and has always been respectful. I won't lump him in with others. However among player fans he's a rare breed. Some of you should follow his lead.
I will say I have respect for Npliam as he's a good poster and has always been respectful. I won't lump him in with others. However among player fans he's a rare breed. Some of you should follow his lead.
Jimmer's fans have been great. I doubt if anyone of consequence is hoping you people go away. This year Jimmer has improved and I don't think has been rewarded. If I remember correctly from the grades of last game, he did a very good job defensively. If I am wrong in my memory, fine, but if I am correct and his coach continues to rightfully complain about the team's lack of defensive effort, his complaints are hollow. If a team cannot find a place for a 50% three pt shooter, he needs to leave for his own sanity. At some point he has to wonder what he has to do to get minutes. He has done everything asked of him and that are within his physical capabilities. He SHOULD be pissed but I think is too much of a gentleman. Apparently that is not part of the new culture.
If the new culture includes sharing and defense and being a nice guy, I say he checks 2 1/2 of the boxes. He shares, he is a good guy, and his defense is spotty.
If the new culture includes sharing and defense and being a nice guy, I say he checks 2 1/2 of the boxes. He shares, he is a good guy, and his defense is spotty.
Which brings this back to my original question. Why will no one let him play when it's so obvious to fans he's the second coming? Why didn't anyone want to trade for him? OKC was looking for a shooter at trade deadline. Jimmer was there for the taking, didn't they look at his PER?
To be honest, I've gotten used to the Jimmer fans. But the whining about playing time is wearing thin on me. He is without a doubt better than his first year. But he's being overvalued on this board.
To be honest, I've gotten used to the Jimmer fans. But the whining about playing time is wearing thin on me. He is without a doubt better than his first year. But he's being overvalued on this board.
I didn't differentiate between the two in that post. Players fans in general have always bothered me, the type who generally won't be here the day their player leaves. I don't think we have many of them btw. Can only think of two IT player fans and maybe 3-4 Jimmer player fans.
I feel this way about seeing it on other forums and through other sports as well. I've never liked it as the majority of the time when their player isn't doing well they turn and attack the team, the club or the organization. As far as Jimmer fans vs IT fans, do you really want me to answer that? I'll just say I prefer Jimmer fans in all honesty.
I've probably said enough in this thread...
I feel this way about seeing it on other forums and through other sports as well. I've never liked it as the majority of the time when their player isn't doing well they turn and attack the team, the club or the organization. As far as Jimmer fans vs IT fans, do you really want me to answer that? I'll just say I prefer Jimmer fans in all honesty.
I've probably said enough in this thread...
who here is a Kings fan because they like the way the Kings play basketball?
I liked the Suns in the Nash heyday because of the way the played. I mean, really, who has fallen in love with the worst organization in the Western Conference because it fits what they love about basketball?
I rooted for the Kings in their heyday. But those days are long, long gone.
I liked the Suns in the Nash heyday because of the way the played. I mean, really, who has fallen in love with the worst organization in the Western Conference because it fits what they love about basketball?
I rooted for the Kings in their heyday. But those days are long, long gone.
Actually I'm looking for evidence to change my opinion. I'm open to it, but haven't heard it.
I had wrote something about my basketball background, but erased it. Not important. But the point I was going to make was that I'm not basing my opinion about Jimmer on whether or not I like the guy. It's based on what I see. If you have something to help me see it differently, I'm all ears.
I had wrote something about my basketball background, but erased it. Not important. But the point I was going to make was that I'm not basing my opinion about Jimmer on whether or not I like the guy. It's based on what I see. If you have something to help me see it differently, I'm all ears.
My thoughts are based, of course, on what I've seen since he's been here. Granted, he didn't get a fair shake IMHO from the previous coaching staff - and to be totally honest I don't think he's been given a fair shot this year either.
You say he has a competitive fire and I have no doubts that he does. The problem is that most Kings fans have never seen it. They see the nice guy who has a sweet pure shot but doesn't really get down and dirty. He's the victim of stereotyping to some extent, in that he's such a nice guy nobody expects him to drop an F bomb or get a technical or commit a flagrant foul. If you look up Jimmer Fredette in the Kings fan dictionary, "tough" just isn't one of the descriptors.
You know I'm rooting for Jimmer. I like him. I own his jersey. I truly wish something could happen that would fix all that's gone wrong during his time here but I don't have a clue as to what it could be.
You say he has a competitive fire and I have no doubts that he does. The problem is that most Kings fans have never seen it. They see the nice guy who has a sweet pure shot but doesn't really get down and dirty. He's the victim of stereotyping to some extent, in that he's such a nice guy nobody expects him to drop an F bomb or get a technical or commit a flagrant foul. If you look up Jimmer Fredette in the Kings fan dictionary, "tough" just isn't one of the descriptors.
You know I'm rooting for Jimmer. I like him. I own his jersey. I truly wish something could happen that would fix all that's gone wrong during his time here but I don't have a clue as to what it could be.
So, you rooted for the Kings, when they played "a certain way." And then, when they stopped playing that way, you jumped ship, and starting rooting for the Suns, because they played "a certain way." Sounds like one of the defining traits of a bandwagon fan. Is that what you meant to ask? Who here is a bandwagon Kings fan?
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