[Grades] Grades v. Wizards 2/9/2014

What is best in life?

  • Ice cream!

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Chocolate!

    Votes: 5 10.9%
  • Pretty girls

    Votes: 15 32.6%
  • Pretty boys

    Votes: 1 2.2%
  • Kings win!

    Votes: 2 4.3%
  • Money

    Votes: 5 10.9%
  • The open steppe, a fleet horse, a falcon at your wrist, and the wind in your hair...

    Votes: 3 6.5%
  • Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women

    Votes: 14 30.4%

  • Total voters
    46
  • Poll closed .
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KingMilz

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#61
It still baffles me that a crafty ballhandler like Thomas and a big body like Cousins can't be more effective in the pick and roll.
Great post

Imo it's niether of them are actual pick n roll players, Cousins still imo has to learn how to roll to the rim, to often he stands there waiting for a jumper or moves WAY to late. To compound that Thomas tries to go quick around the pick and lacks some playmaking ability (cause he's a natural scorer) and gets himself into trouble and not having a roller to the rim at his size makes it super hard for a bail out pass and he loves to leave his feet. They really make each other worse in that aspect

Imo our best two pick n roll combo's (just from watching I got no stats), are Jimmer or IT with Derrick Williams and Rudy (due to his size makes a excellent option) with Cousins every other pick n roll duo pretty much crap (I left Gray out cause he's a horrible finisher).
 
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#62
This game, it most definitely wasn't the pg. But for all the stats, he was surprisingly ineffective in the ways that decide games. But thats nothing new.

Cuz didn't show up, rudy didn't show up. Game over.

Something is way way off with this team right now. Cuz looked lazy and distracted last game but still brought the stats. Last night, nothing was there. I don't know if it's the all star hangover, an actual hangover, trade deadline distraction, other off the court distraction, the actual flu, or mental just mad at the world stuff. Someone needs to give him a hug or something, cause he's regressing these last two games to something less than max contract worthy.

Kayte said something interesting on the radio right before this road trip started that the week before the all star break is the toughest of the year. A team with no chemistry such as ours, well it's not that surprising to see it all fall apart. Mentally, physically, it's the toughest week to be a pro and show up. A lot of guys aren't showing up.

That said, our pg showed up to get his, and he certainly did. Frankly, he's playing for a lot more right now, and it shows. Team be damned! But I don't blame him for cuz and rudy. They are too good to be that bad. The fundamental problem with our pg showed it's ugly head again, and that's that when others are struggling, his response is to shoot more. And in the 4th, it never works. Good game for him up till that point, then déjà vu time.

And why oh why won't he give it to Ben on the break when ben can get an easy dunk with a simple pass?! I looked closely, he's not actually wearing horse blinders. He should be able to see the kid. Hey little man, he's the tall guy that can dunk. Maybe let him do it instead of getting your shot blocked. Just pass it once to the kid, let us know you can. That's a momentum killing play. Instead of a highlight reel dunk by our dunk contestant, our pg gets the opposing pg on sports center for a nice block. Sigh. And really, an entire game and he sets up rudy one time? But that's what he is. A low iq player that is only capable of getting his and is clueless when it comes to what others are doing. That has it's place in this league. It's just not as a starting pg. His top 6 scoring games are now losses for the team.

MT, Williams and Landry, nice of you to show up to get your paychecks. Sheesh. What are we doing with Landry? 3 more years of this? Is he even tradeable? Feels like he's the next john salmons for us. He can't possible be on an under 5 mpg minute restriction, can he? Williams? Apparently he played 20 mins. I didn't notice. That's most nights. Minnesota Williams seems to be what he is. He's just not worth the money he gets paid. He's a deep rotation guy at best. I really see nothing there. If he can still be moved, if any team wants to be his last stop, we've gotta pull the trigger. I'd take that second round pick we traded for MAM back at this point. If he can only put up numbers when the stars align and everything is perfect, he needs to find another job. And MT? Injured? Maybe, but he puts up efforts like this healthy too. That's 18 million for those 3, for those counting.

I thought Ben showed flashes. Hopefully we keep giving him a chance and can get MT moved by the deadline. There's no point in bothering with MT right now. I'll take rookie mistakes over veteran disinterest.
 
#63
MT, Williams and Landry, nice of you to show up to get your paychecks. Sheesh. What are we doing with Landry? 3 more years of this? Is he even tradeable? Feels like he's the next john salmons for us. He can't possible be on an under 5 mpg minute restriction, can he?
Landry is more like Kenny Thomas right now. At least Salmons was somewhat serviceable every 4 games or so.
 
#64
"he wasn't horribly inefficient at 46.8%"????????? referring to IT. That is just stupid. IT was the only bright spot last night, but many people are too blind to see it.
Any team in the NBA, especially one with a lot of losses will take that shooting percentage anytime they can get it.
This game is a good example of why every team needs scorers, at least 3, and 4 or 5 are even better.
The Kings get nothing from their SHOOTING Guards.
Gortat knows how to play defense on Cousins. He fronted him, he leaned on him and he got help in the double team. He was very physical which is Cousins game. Great job by Washington, not bad game by Cousins. You watched the weak part of Cousins mental game last night. When he gets frustrated he is like a little kid.
A finesse player like Gay will have some off games. It is a long season.
 
#65
The last two games have been low on entertainment value if you are a Kings fan. I'm sure Wiz fans enjoyed watching their Bigs pummel Cousins. Cousins verbal tantrum caused all his teammates to put their heads down. I pretty much tuned out right there. I don't enjoy watching the team run so many isolation plays. Sure Rudy and DeMarcus can score that way most nights but it is not a great way to win games.

Whoever is still here after the trade deadline will need to put the disappointment of the All Star game, the flu and all the losing behind them and continue to build toward the future.

I'm hoping Pete can shake up the Guard line with a trade that leaves us with Ben and a new cast of defensive stalwarts with at least one PG who can make his team mates better. While the defensive shot blocking beast we all desire would be nice, I'm thinking Guards will be easier to get in this trade season.

Speaking of Pete he reminds me of the statistics analysis Geek from the movie Moneyball. Not in physical appearance but in the way Vivek plucked him out of all the GM candidates. In Pete's version of the movie Billy Beane is played by Chris Mullin. We can only hope Vivek's NBA 3.0 with Pete at the helm of player aquisition is as successful as Moneyball.

KB
 

Spike

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#66
"he wasn't horribly inefficient at 46.8%"????????? referring to IT. That is just stupid. IT was the only bright spot last night, but many people are too blind to see it.
Any team in the NBA, especially one with a lot of losses will take that shooting percentage anytime they can get it.
This game is a good example of why every team needs scorers, at least 3, and 4 or 5 are even better.
Sigh. And yet the main reason we've lost 9 of 11 is the other side of the ball, but many people are too blind to see it.

The whole season has been a pretty good example of why we need a balanced roster more than we need scorers. We have scorers. Thornton is a scorer. Jimmer is a scorer. Give them the ball and let them fire away and they will score. We saw that fairly recently when both Gay and Cousins were out.

We need a PG to set up the team and put them in position for easy baskets - we generally see that every night from the other team, save for a few where the PG IS the main scorer. Our PG just about took as many shots as our big two combined. That is an issue. As has been said before, the easy way to defend this team (as long as IT is starting) is to let him score. Just let him score, because he will do it at the expense of getting others involved or in rhythm. The other team has said as much - Cousins again pointed it out again last night.

“I think we are kinda shying away from team basketball and are playing one-on-one,” center DeMarcus Cousins said. “We are not running all our sets well, and with that being said, it’s affecting our offense a lot. Once we get back to playing team basketball, sharing the ball and getting the best shot, I think that we can get back to being a team that’s up to .500.”

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2014/02/09/6142859/kings-cant-overcome-offensive.html#storylink=cpy

We need defenders on the perimeter - will Ben get there? Maybe. We need more role players like Acy. Dirty work guys. Glue guys. The last thing we need are more scorers.
 
#67
"he wasn't horribly inefficient at 46.8%"????????? referring to IT. That is just stupid. IT was the only bright spot last night, but many people are too blind to see it.
Any team in the NBA, especially one with a lot of losses will take that shooting percentage anytime they can get it.
This game is a good example of why every team needs scorers, at least 3, and 4 or 5 are even better.
The Kings get nothing from their SHOOTING Guards.
Gortat knows how to play defense on Cousins. He fronted him, he leaned on him and he got help in the double team. He was very physical which is Cousins game. Great job by Washington, not bad game by Cousins. You watched the weak part of Cousins mental game last night. When he gets frustrated he is like a little kid.
A finesse player like Gay will have some off games. It is a long season.
I don't know how you can watch what is happening out there and conclude we need more scoring.

Plenty of blame to go around in this one.
 
#68
We can all agree that defense is an issue. How can the Kings win scoring 84 points? You have to score more than the opponent. With an average defense you have to score a lot.
 
#70
"he wasn't horribly inefficient at 46.8%"????????? referring to IT. That is just stupid. IT was the only bright spot last night, but many people are too blind to see it.
Any team in the NBA, especially one with a lot of losses will take that shooting percentage anytime they can get it.
This game is a good example of why every team needs scorers, at least 3, and 4 or 5 are even better.
The Kings get nothing from their SHOOTING Guards.
Gortat knows how to play defense on Cousins. He fronted him, he leaned on him and he got help in the double team. He was very physical which is Cousins game. Great job by Washington, not bad game by Cousins. You watched the weak part of Cousins mental game last night. When he gets frustrated he is like a little kid.
A finesse player like Gay will have some off games. It is a long season.
one certainly cannot blame isaiah thomas for the kings' loss last night. however, one can very easily look at the way last night's game was coached and/or run by the team's starting PG and determine that the gameplan was wholly ineffective. demarcus cousins and rudy gay are options #1 and #2, respectively. but they were operating in isolation all night long. of the few shots they made between them, none of them were easy. isaiah thomas dolled out eight assists in 43 minutes, and while that might sound like a nice statistic to some, i will be one of the few who's not afraid to say that i still did not see a player who even remotely resembled a starting PG suited to this team. thomas put up over 20 shots... again. he scored at least 30 points... again. and the kings lost... again. they lost because cousins and gay were a combined 5-27 from the field. but why were cousins and gay a combined 5-27 from the field?

some of it has to do with the fact that even great players have off nights. but a team has to be able to absorb poor play from its most talented players. a team has to adjust. what does a good PG do when his teammates play poorly, particularly his #1 and #2 options? a good PG doesn't damn them to isolation plays that draw consistent double teams. a good PG finds a way to help get them going. a good PG attempts to get them some easy baskets. occasionally we see flashes of this hypothetical PG from isaiah thomas. but more often than not they are unicorn moments, rarities lost in the glare of IT's chucker mentality. either that or coach malone is just far too unimaginative on the offensive side of the ball. i'd guess it's a combination of the two. opposing teams are fine with thomas scoring 30 if the kings' chemistry collapses in the process. malone needs a counterattack in his arsenal. he either needs a starting PG who can provide consistent PG play, or he needs to find a way to cut through thomas' napolean complex for the good of the team...
 
#71
IT can't/will not pass evidently, but yet he averages 6- 6.5 assists/game. This is the best assist average in about 10 years for this team. It is better than Tyreke ever did. It is better than Beno ever accomplsihed. It is way better than all the other maginal PG's we had in the past 8-9 years. It was Bibby's best average with us.

Let's not forget, this is only his 3rd year in the league. Maybe with time his passing will improve further.

Also, he does not take that many shots on average - about 15/game and scores about 20 points on those shots - shoots about 44%. These numbers are pretty much what Bibby and Tyreke did in their best years with us.

It honestly seems personal given all the IT name calling.
 
#72
IT can't/will not pass evidently, but yet he averages 6- 6.5 assists/game. This is the best assist average in about 10 years for this team. It is better than Tyreke ever did. It is better than Beno ever accomplsihed. It is way better than all the other maginal PG's we had in the past 8-9 years. It was Bibby's best average with us.

Let's not forget, this is only his 3rd year in the league. Maybe with time his passing will improve further.

Also, he does not take that many shots on average - about 15/game and scores about 20 points on those shots - shoots about 44%. These numbers are pretty much what Bibby and Tyreke did in their best years with us.

It honestly seems personal given all the IT name calling.
Do you really think that Kings fans have a personal vendetta against IT? That he is great but they all don't like him anyway?
 
#73
I liked the comments from Malone in terms of the beating that Cousins as been getting and that he was going to have to fight for him harder. You could see the frustration growing with Cousins to the point he was just throwing junk up almost like he knew it wouldn't matter .... but then again I'm biased.

http://www.sacbee.com/2014/02/09/6142776/postgame-notes-malone-might-have.html

Cousins seemed to appreciate the support must be a shock to what has happened in the past. Hope Malone keeps his word.
 

Glenn

Hall of Famer
#74
Do you really think that Kings fans have a personal vendetta against IT? That he is great but they all don't like him anyway?
Good question. The implication is that some people on this forum dislike IT for reasons other than his basketball skills. Is that it, kupman? What is the personal reason we dislike IT?
 
#75
IT can't/will not pass evidently, but yet he averages 6- 6.5 assists/game. This is the best assist average in about 10 years for this team. It is better than Tyreke ever did. It is better than Beno ever accomplsihed. It is way better than all the other maginal PG's we had in the past 8-9 years. It was Bibby's best average with us.

Let's not forget, this is only his 3rd year in the league. Maybe with time his passing will improve further.

Also, he does not take that many shots on average - about 15/game and scores about 20 points on those shots - shoots about 44%. These numbers are pretty much what Bibby and Tyreke did in their best years with us.

It honestly seems personal given all the IT name calling.
He handles the ball so much and plays huge minutes. It shouldn't be a surprise that he manages to rack up some assists, half of which tend to be in transition btw. But the question remains - does he set guys up for easy shots or are they just hitting shots when he passes them the ball? Anyway IT wasn't the reason we lost so I'm not going to keep talking about him.
 

Glenn

Hall of Famer
#76
I liked the comments from Malone in terms of the beating that Cousins as been getting and that he was going to have to fight for him harder. You could see the frustration growing with Cousins to the point he was just throwing junk up almost like he knew it wouldn't matter .... but then again I'm biased.

http://www.sacbee.com/2014/02/09/6142776/postgame-notes-malone-might-have.html

Cousins seemed to appreciate the support must be a shock to what has happened in the past. Hope Malone keeps his word.
It's part of a coach's job as far as I am concerned. Malone seems ready to pile up techs to defend Cousins as well he should. Don't leave Cuz out there alone. It's a team game and in this case the coach is very much a part of the team. To carry it on even further, Malone will have players willing to walk through walls (Walls?) for him and might as well start with the strongest wall breaker. :)
 
#77
I liked the comments from Malone in terms of the beating that Cousins as been getting and that he was going to have to fight for him harder. You could see the frustration growing with Cousins to the point he was just throwing junk up almost like he knew it wouldn't matter .... but then again I'm biased.

http://www.sacbee.com/2014/02/09/6142776/postgame-notes-malone-might-have.html

Cousins seemed to appreciate the support must be a shock to what has happened in the past. Hope Malone keeps his word.
Cousins needs to just play. He complains on every post move weather there was a foul or not. He will run over or through a guy, make a basket and then turn and complain to the official. A lot of the time there is no foul, not even a questionable no call, just no foul at all.
 

Glenn

Hall of Famer
#78
Cousins needs to just play. He complains on every post move weather there was a foul or not. He will run over or through a guy, make a basket and then turn and complain to the official. A lot of the time there is no foul, not even a questionable no call, just no foul at all.
Cuz is getting beaten up. He beats people up. He plays a rough position but you can't tell me when he is triple teamed with one guy's hand inside his jock that he isn't getting fouled. In a sense it makes no difference. What will make a difference is if Cuz feels like his coach s fighting for him. His complaining will drop.
 
#79
Who doesn't like CHOCOLATE ?? I'm an unrepentant CHOCOHOLIC ! I go to meetings.....

* If Ben leaves a shooter again to double team air, can the coach just bench him asap. Do it every time.
* Has the tanking begun? Guess we will find out tomorrow @ Cleveland. If they don't give effort it will be clear.
* Had high hopes for this roadtrip, but I guess the team does not share my enthusiasm...
* Seriously, tomorrow will be the indicator because Cleveland is GAWDAWFUL.

As a side note: Did anyone catch Big Cuz screaming at his team after the Wiz ran the same play like 3 times and the rotation just was just pathetic... He yelled something like "its the same F&*KING PLAY"....
 
#81
"he wasn't horribly inefficient at 46.8%"????????? referring to IT. That is just stupid. IT was the only bright spot last night, but many people are too blind to see it.
Um...you seem to be missing the bolded, underlined part there. I said he wasn't horribly inefficient.
Unless you've forgotten...when Cousins and Rudy were actually out of the line-up and IT was putting up 20+ shots there were some nights he was under 40% and I don't think he got above 42%.
In this particular game, though both Cousins and Rudy were in the game, essentially they were no-shows.
So once again IT put up a lot of shots, but this time...as I said he wasn't horribly inefficient with those shots...which is why he ended up with a B grade.
Had he shot under 40% it probably would have ended up a C- type grade despite the final point total.

So...are you arguing with me to say that you thought he was horribly inefficient?

Not sure what you're trying to do here.

He didn't get an A because he didn't do a good enough of a job running the team, especially down the stretch and we lost what was a close game in the 4th quarter.

You mention the Aaron Gray play as one where a teammate didn't convert. As mentioned I tracked all of his passes that could have resulted in an assist but didn't, and that was one of those plays.
The guys other than Rudy, Cousins, & IT shot 13/31 which was 42%. If they had made one more shot it would have been 14/31 and 45%. To me...it seems reasonable that IT should have included the other guys more for easy baskets. They weren't shooting horribly.
And the fact that IT only made one field goal in the entire 4th quarter bolsters support for my claim that he should have relied on the other guys more, rather than taking the easy way out by putting up his own shot.

Finally, he shot 4/12 in the 2nd half. Rudy only got 11 shots the entire game. So saying that people would love his shooting is to just look at the entire game but ignore how poor he was in the 2nd half, and especially in the 4th quarter when there might have been a chance to pull out a win.
So again, he isn't the reason that we lost. But you can't say it was a fantastic game for him, and there are many reasons as to why his game could have been much better.
 
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#82
I was at game last night ten rows from the floor and near the Kings bench and noticed some issues:

The Kings went through the most un-professional "professional" warm-up I have ever witnessed. Grab-ass, indifference and boredom. To say they were going at it half speed would be giving them a "half" they didn't deserve. Lots of check collecting at this point. After tip-off, Outlaw and Landry were reclined so far down the bench they'd have to be paged to enter the game (Gay slumped in whenever taking his occasional sick leave exits to the bench throughout)

The amount of squawking and finger pointing regarding defense was constant. IMO serious chemistry issues. Isaiah is fighting and definitely the only scorer last night, but absolutely self obsessed with chip on his shoulder ever present and 100% pissed off about something even after making a shot. Isaiah is good, but not Iverson. Cousins was at his most immature last night, squawking at everyone and anyone while being ground-bound maybe by the ankle. He was no match for Gortat, Nene and whoever he tried to fake off their feet in the first half. He loafed up and down half the time. His childish berating of teammates was universally greeted with eye-rolls by teammates. It was nice of Thornton to play after the nasty fall, but it is just too hard to ignore the dreary facial and body language that connects entirely with most of his performances this year.

McElmore may have left some 3 pointers open, but in person he was very impressive. He plays occasional tough defense, and works his butt off. Couple of shots looked pure, and visually he belongs on the court with an NBA athleticism. Gray worked hard and so did Acey, and it was nice to see them get the deficit down to 4 points. News flash, Jimmer struggles with ball pressure. It's such an easy fix to have Gay take over ball handling dudes when paired together it makes me wonder if Coach really wants to get anything out of Jimmer at all.

I was hopeful a few weeks ago that these guys played well together, but after last night I really got the impression that some guys from the current group will not enjoy playing with each other again. I'm hoping they reshuffle again. In the Washington papers, one of the players commented they were playing a team that was very "disconnected" and had a lot of issues. He went on to say they should have been the Kings by thirty. I saw the same thing.
 
#83
Cousins needs to just play. He complains on every post move weather there was a foul or not. He will run over or through a guy, make a basket and then turn and complain to the official. A lot of the time there is no foul, not even a questionable no call, just no foul at all.
Yes, but on the other end is a foul being called on him? I'm biased but it seems he can't defend others like they are defending him. I think Malone agrees (he may be biased also) 'cause he went just as far as he possibly could in the post conference without drawing a fine in being critical of the no-calls.
 
#84
IT can't/will not pass evidently, but yet he averages 6- 6.5 assists/game. This is the best assist average in about 10 years for this team. It is better than Tyreke ever did. It is better than Beno ever accomplsihed. It is way better than all the other maginal PG's we had in the past 8-9 years. It was Bibby's best average with us.

Let's not forget, this is only his 3rd year in the league. Maybe with time his passing will improve further.

Also, he does not take that many shots on average - about 15/game and scores about 20 points on those shots - shoots about 44%. These numbers are pretty much what Bibby and Tyreke did in their best years with us.

It honestly seems personal given all the IT name calling.
this is an intellectually dishonest way of framing an argument that no one is making. IT obviously can and will pass the ball. the issue is where, when, why, and how he is utilizing the pass. as has been brought up ad nauseum, allen iverson averaged over 6 assists per game for his whole career, but no one would ever confuse him for anything other than a ball dominant, me-first talent. the same goes for thomas. it is terribly easy to rack up assists when the ball is in your hands for 35-40 minutes per game, especially on a team like the kings that lacks even one secondary ball handler in its entire guard rotation...

the point is, IT is a me-first combo guard masquerading as a PG. he's also a sixth man masquerading as a starter, but while he's starting, i will continually take him to task for his lack of instincts when it comes to getting the ball to his teammates where they can be most effective, when it comes to playing to the hot hand (other than his own, i mean), and when it comes to sacrificing his own offense to set up struggling teammates. i recall an instance from last night when the kings' offense was predictably stalling in isolation, so IT dribbled into traffic just to kick the ball out to quincy acy for a long two-pointer as the shot clock was expiring. acy bricked it, as one would expect. it was a perfect example of IT's willingness to pass when he has no shot available for himself, while failing to recognize the where, when, why, and how that are incredibly important features of natural PG instincts...

team chemistry is dependent upon those instincts, even if they don't come from a PG. unfortunately, this team is not built like the golden era kings. demarcus cousins may fancy himself versatile enough to be a passing big, but he's no chris webber or vlade divac, and neither is jason thompson. and none of the kings' SG's can handle the ball or initiate the offense in the way that doug christie could in his prime. rudy gay is just about the only starter other than thomas capable of shouldering playmaking responsibility as a ball handler and passer. this puts greater pressure on the kings' starting PG position to keep everyone involved, to create easier baskets for the team's big time scorers, to play to the hot hand, to make teammates better, to create an environment in which players thrive...

now, it's not necessary for the kings to go out and acquire a "true PG" who considers "pass" above all else, but they also do not need the exact opposite, which is where they find themselves with thomas. i'd prefer a comfortable medium, a PG who looks to pass first but is also a capable spot-up shooter and an adequate defender. there are a lot of role players who could effectively fill that starting PG spot, as soon as kings fans get over the notion that this team needs an "upgrade" over thomas, rather than a more appropriately fitting talent...
 
#85
Like I said, something was way way off. La king fan backs that up. This was end of the maloof era bad. Bad body language, sniping at each other.

I know a lot of people have blind allegiance to Malone, but that looked like a Smart era team last night. Unprofessional me ball, little effort. Malone appears to have lost the team right now. This is a team lacking a leader. Cuz tried, and now he's back to being a big baby. That's by far the most alarming development on this trip.

If I was Vivek, I'd be on a plane to Cleveland. I'd want to see first hand what is going on. Cause it looks like we are spirally out of control.

Landry loafing is pretty bad and hiding at the end of the bench. Wasn't he brought to be a pro and he's buddying up with outlaw? And where did the Landry defenders go? Silence there. How's that low post scoring threat off the bench going?
 

Glenn

Hall of Famer
#86
I was at game last night ten rows from the floor and near the Kings bench and noticed some issues:

The Kings went through the most un-professional "professional" warm-up I have ever witnessed. Grab-ass, indifference and boredom. To say they were going at it half speed would be giving them a "half" they didn't deserve. Lots of check collecting at this point. After tip-off, Outlaw and Landry were reclined so far down the bench they'd have to be paged to enter the game (Gay slumped in whenever taking his occasional sick leave exits to the bench throughout)

The amount of squawking and finger pointing regarding defense was constant. IMO serious chemistry issues. Isaiah is fighting and definitely the only scorer last night, but absolutely self obsessed with chip on his shoulder ever present and 100% pissed off about something even after making a shot. Isaiah is good, but not Iverson. Cousins was at his most immature last night, squawking at everyone and anyone while being ground-bound maybe by the ankle. He was no match for Gortat, Nene and whoever he tried to fake off their feet in the first half. He loafed up and down half the time. His childish berating of teammates was universally greeted with eye-rolls by teammates. It was nice of Thornton to play after the nasty fall, but it is just too hard to ignore the dreary facial and body language that connects entirely with most of his performances this year.

McElmore may have left some 3 pointers open, but in person he was very impressive. He plays occasional tough defense, and works his butt off. Couple of shots looked pure, and visually he belongs on the court with an NBA athleticism. Gray worked hard and so did Acey, and it was nice to see them get the deficit down to 4 points. News flash, Jimmer struggles with ball pressure. It's such an easy fix to have Gay take over ball handling dudes when paired together it makes me wonder if Coach really wants to get anything out of Jimmer at all.

I was hopeful a few weeks ago that these guys played well together, but after last night I really got the impression that some guys from the current group will not enjoy playing with each other again. I'm hoping they reshuffle again. In the Washington papers, one of the players commented they were playing a team that was very "disconnected" and had a lot of issues. He went on to say they should have been the Kings by thirty. I saw the same thing.
Thanks. I saw IT being angry over and over and didn't get it. Must be something personal in the locker room that is spilling out on the court. I have a solution but people don't seem to buy my argument that what we fuss about endlessly on this forum is an issue that splits the players. Easy solution.
 
#87
Like I said, something was way way off. La king fan backs that up. This was end of the maloof era bad. Bad body language, sniping at each other.

I know a lot of people have blind allegiance to Malone, but that looked like a Smart era team last night. Unprofessional me ball, little effort. Malone appears to have lost the team right now. This is a team lacking a leader. Cuz tried, and now he's back to being a big baby. That's by far the most alarming development on this trip.

If I was Vivek, I'd be on a plane to Cleveland. I'd want to see first hand what is going on. Cause it looks like we are spirally out of control.

Landry loafing is pretty bad and hiding at the end of the bench. Wasn't he brought to be a pro and he's buddying up with outlaw? And where did the Landry defenders go? Silence there. How's that low post scoring threat off the bench going?
Or simply a very bad game. I wouldn't say Malone has lost the team but the trade deadline couldn't come fast enough.
 
#88
Landry loafing is pretty bad and hiding at the end of the bench. Wasn't he brought to be a pro and he's buddying up with outlaw? And where did the Landry defenders go? Silence there. How's that low post scoring threat off the bench going?
That is worrisome. I'll still point out that his injury is the type that could still be affecting his mobility and causing him to shy away from contact. I don't know if this is the Landry we'll have next year or even a month from now.

We also don't really run low post sets to get him the ball on the left block, for whatever reason.

Also, Landry as backup power forward is an okay proposition as he is more skilled than most backups he is facing. Landry as backup center is a bad, bad idea.