Before Oct 31 deadline/Jimmer news (merged)
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The problem that I see is that 12 mpg or less Jimmer is worth less than $3.4 million. 15-25 mpg Jimmer MAY be worth more than $3.4 million to some other team out there, but not the Kings. For an extension to be worth it, Jimmer would need to get time on the floor, and I just can't see that happening with Thornton making $8 million and McLemore being the important long-term guy at the 2.
You can't trade Thornton's contract unless you play him a bunch and he looks good. You can't trade Jimmer unless you play him some and he looks good. You don't want to trade McLemore and you have to play him a bunch to develop his game. McLemore is a given, so pick which SG you want to use as trade bait and play them the rest of the minutes, and hope that they play well enough to package with one of the albatross contracts and bring back a good 3 or a defensive 4.
You can't trade Thornton's contract unless you play him a bunch and he looks good. You can't trade Jimmer unless you play him some and he looks good. You don't want to trade McLemore and you have to play him a bunch to develop his game. McLemore is a given, so pick which SG you want to use as trade bait and play them the rest of the minutes, and hope that they play well enough to package with one of the albatross contracts and bring back a good 3 or a defensive 4.
If you are talking about Jimmer, it's just a one year option. I think the Kings pick-up the option and see what they've got or trade him to the team that offers the most in return. If he truly has no value around the league then they don't pick up the option. We'll see I guess. He will be in demand by more than a few teams in my opinion. I don't think the Kings let him leave this summer without anything in return.
The problem is Thornton's not close to worth the value of his contract. He's much tougher to unload. Anybody need a Vinnie Johnson type for 8 mil per year? According to the Sac Bee, all summer the Kings management have listened to offers for Jimmer but right now are not interested in a trade. I guess that's so they can let him go for free this summer. My bet is the King's pick up the option. If I'm wrong, I'll own it on Friday.
We've already had several years to determine his value around the league. He is of little to no value to us because we have too many guards. So what if no one wants him? We will have him on the bench for another year with no return on the investment. It still makes no sense. Why not let him go and go after a guy we actually can use.
I prefer signing people to see if we can use them rather than signing them to see if we can trade them.
I prefer signing people to see if we can use them rather than signing them to see if we can trade them.
The extension scenario I can see would be for a team with needs at both the 1 and 2 off the bench who wants a possible value contract next year. There might be some trade options out there who want two years of Jimmer to see if they can develop him more than the Kings have.
Detroit, Utah, Lakers, Orlando, Philly, Toronto, Houston, Memphis, OKC, and Phoenix are all teams that could use additional backcourt scoring off the bench and floor spacing in general. San Antonio would probably pick him up just so Popovich could turn him into a 20 ppg guy just to rub it in people's faces. There's a market out there for his services, it is just a question of whether any of those teams would be willing to offer something that Sacramento wants in return.
Detroit, Utah, Lakers, Orlando, Philly, Toronto, Houston, Memphis, OKC, and Phoenix are all teams that could use additional backcourt scoring off the bench and floor spacing in general. San Antonio would probably pick him up just so Popovich could turn him into a 20 ppg guy just to rub it in people's faces. There's a market out there for his services, it is just a question of whether any of those teams would be willing to offer something that Sacramento wants in return.
Same with Cousins and Evans, yet those players are so much better than Jimmer 
I don't disagree with you on any particular point here, Glenn. Jimmer is a terrible fit on the Kings. That said, he does have a valuable skillset of being a long-range spot up shooter with above-average court vision for a two guard and a high basketball IQ. Almost without fail, contending teams are built around strong rim penetration and rely on floor spacing to get their slashers good looks and their shooters play off the drive and kick. Danny Green looks a hundred times better shooting the three on kickouts from Parker and Duncan than he did in Cleveland where nobody was getting him open.
It was endlessly frustrating to me that Smart refused to run Jimmer and Tyreke together consistently.
It was endlessly frustrating to me that Smart refused to run Jimmer and Tyreke together consistently.
Until we draft or sign someone with his own designated fanbase, which will pretty much happen the second Jimmer leaves. Hell, it's a good thing we traded Omri before acquiring Jimmer because the potential tension between those two blocks of rabid fandom would have probably resulted in a tear in the fabric of space and time, thus destroying basketball for everyone.
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Jimmer still has some trade value ATM. Same with Magic Randolph and Wes Matthew because some teams still hold hope that these guys can turn things around. That value will quickly diminish after this season IMO becuz there's a new coaching staff in town and if Jimmer doesn't have some decent success this season, he'll be out of the league.
I would be happy with a 2nd round pick TBH.
I would be happy with a 2nd round pick TBH.
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