Who is jamal sampson??? Who are these guys that petrie picked? lol

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Who are these goofs that petrie picked??? geeeeeez
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Does anyone still miss webber? What do you think of those three guys(skinner, corlis, thomas) that rode the sixers bench now?

I can't believe we let songaila just walk away, let jackson go and traded webber. Webber may have been inevitable but we should have immediatly traded those 3 for one really good quality player or tried to move them for 2 decent/good players. Our bench is so messed up man.
 
1. Jamal Sampson was signed as a backup to the backup to the backup, and he's fulfilling that role quite well.
2. Songaila wasn't getting off the bench behind KT, and since you criticized Petrie for not being defensively focused in another thread I'm guessing you wouldn't have liked having Songaila off the bench.
3. Jackson (Bobby) was traded for Bonzi, which worked out well. Jackson (Jim) left, which people were upset about at the time but he hasn't really panned out anywhere else.
4. This thread is inane.
 
Uh, Sampson's been inactive all year except one game when he played 2 minutes at the end of the Denver road loss. Played 17 minutes total in pre-season.

Sampson was picked up because of his productivity in limited minutes, and for a third center. Quite frankly, I'd like to see the guy get some PT.

We traded B-Jax to get Bonzi, and as much as everyone loved him, he proved to be crucially injury prone (got injured a week ago or so, and is still out). Songaila at the time wasn't going to get much PT behind SAR/KT, obviously if the bench was going to be like this, Geoff would of kept him.
 
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Does anyone still miss webber? What do you think of those three guys(skinner, corlis, thomas) that rode the sixers bench now?
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Thomas was a double-double guy in Philly.

I can't believe we let songaila just walk away
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We couldn't sign Songaila. We used all of our MLE on Reef.

let jackson go
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We had to let Jackson go to get Wells.

Webber may have been inevitable but we should have immediatly traded those 3 for one really good quality player
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Nobody wanted Webber because of his injury. Thats why we couldn't get a superstar in return.
 
CaminoChaos said:
We couldn't sign Songaila. We used all of our MLE on Reef.
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Yes we could have. We had his early bird rights and could have matched Chicago's offer.
 
Darius wouldn't have made a difference for our mess -- just another midlevel non-rebounding non-shotblocking "big" man with a jumper.

The Webber trade just gets dumber and dumber the longer the "Philly three" wear Kings colors. With only one in the rotation averaging 6pts 4rebs no blocks you basically just traded Webb straight up for Jarron Collins.

Bobby brought us Bonzi, so there is no real revisiting that. One of the few moves we have made in recent times that actually brought us back a contributing player. Vlade = nobody. Doug = Mobley rental = nobody. Webb = Jarron Collins, except shorter. The TRUE core of the title contending teams, and we could hardly have laid a bigger egg on getting something back for them.
 
nobrains said:
1. Jamal Sampson was signed as a backup to the backup to the backup, and he's fulfilling that role quite well.

so otherwise being useless. i liked ostertag in this role. he clogged the lane and brought some good d(when adleman actually played him).

>2. Songaila wasn't getting off the bench behind KT, and since you

which was a mistake by adleman. mr sucky coach himself. songaila was always solid and had an injury. doing well for himself in chicago. thomas an absolute joke now.

>criticized Petrie for not being defensively focused in another thread I'm guessing you wouldn't have liked having Songaila off the bench.

oh contrare, songaila brought scoring. thomas brings neither.

>4. This thread is inane.

your reply was acerebral.
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Bricklayer said:
Darius wouldn't have made a difference for our mess -- just another midlevel non-rebounding non-shotblocking "big" man with a jumper.
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darius brought a consistancy of decent bench scoring. thomas does not. what is thomas without the scoring? other than worthless i mean. what good is he if he brings nothing? exactly.
 
Ryle said:
Yes we could have. We had his early bird rights and could have matched Chicago's offer.
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well you know thomas is just the man these days. great move by petrie according to these kids. lol
 
The only way to stomach the news of the Webber trade was to assume it was just a first step. Of course it was. It had to be. I remember hearing on the radio Webber for Kenny Thomas and Brian Skinner, and Corliss Williamson, and....and - the radio must have cut of because the trade stopped right there. They never finished telling who the Kings got in return.

In reality, Webber's value was certainly not superstar level at the time. The problem was the lack of 'beef' we got in return. Especially with Vlade gone. I had high hopes at the time for Garcia - I dunno I still think he has potential --- BUT what this team needs and has needed for awhile is a big dude. A Ronny Turiaf would make a whole lot more sense than a Garcia considering the Kings shortcomings. Why didn't Petrie and Adelman see this?

Webber was a star at one time. Vlade didn't have star talent but he had one essential star quality -- he could make other players immensely better. Just ask Peja and Miller, and Webber for that matter. We have concocted a team now that his crying out for someone to make them better. They can't do it for each other.

I miss the talent. I miss the style. I was loyal to the effort. For a time it was good vs evil stuff. The Kings moved the ball. They cut without the ball, backdoored. Passed. They screen and roll now. Over and over again. And now they are overmatched in skills by nearly every team in the league.
It's beyond desperation time, and nobody seems to have a plan. How depressing considering what was.
 
pedro said:
darius brought a consistancy of decent bench scoring. thomas does not. what is thomas without the scoring? other than worthless i mean. what good is he if he brings nothing? exactly.
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Rebounding, hustle.
 
Kings113 said:
Rebounding, hustle.
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his boards are 'okay' to average, nothing great. his hustle has been lacking all season long however. if he's simply a hustle player(and he dosen't do that consistantly), we would have been better off bringing in someone else. our bench is garbage.
 
LA King Fan II said:
l.a. king fan, you're wrong when you say vlade didn't have star talent. he did. when he was younger. he was just overshadowed by webber, bibby and peja(when he was good).

vlade was the glue of the team. he made it run smooth. without vlade webber wouldn't have been able to lead this team. webber out with injury and vlade kept the team together with miller in. in fact the reason i hate adleman so much is because he made a stupid move by bringing webber back when the kings had great chemistry with vlade and miller in the starting lineup. adleman f'd up the chemistry and the kings went downhill instantly. adleman is a prick.
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pedro said:
LA King Fan II said:
l.a. king fan, you're wrong when you say vlade didn't have star talent. he did. when he was younger. he was just overshadowed by webber, bibby and peja(when he was good).

vlade was the glue of the team. he made it run smooth. without vlade webber wouldn't have been able to lead this team. webber out with injury and vlade kept the team together with miller in. in fact the reason i hate adleman so much is because he made a stupid move by bringing webber back when the kings had great chemistry with vlade and miller in the starting lineup. adleman f'd up the chemistry and the kings went downhill instantly. adleman is a prick.
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Of everything you have said, this actually one solid point. (could do w/o the name-calling, though). Got to wonder if things would have played out differently if Adleman had the cojones way back when to sit down Webber, to even bring him off the bench when he was CLEARLY hobbled from his injury, limit his minutes to 20-25 even if it pissed of C-Webb in the process (so what?). If we incorporated him slowly, so as to retain our chemistry, maybe Geoff Petrie does not feel so compelled to pull the trigger and get rid of him for 3 marginal talents.....

Instead he cowers to him, plays him 40 minutes, our team goes into the tank, the ownership concludes he must be shipped out any cost....and we are now witness to the ugly consequences....

What makes it even worse is their trade value (Skinner, Corliss, and K Thomas), considering their terrible stats accross the board, along with the rest of our roster is at or near an ALL-time low...making the chances for improvement via a trade that much more difficult.
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Pedro. I liked Vlade quite a bit. I watched him a lot in fact when he was a Laker. He was not a star then. I watched him a ton as a King. 13 points a game and 8 rebounds are not star numbers. I don't feel wrong.

Vlade, did however get the most from his talent and make others better as I said, and which you reiterated in your accelerated response.
 
pedro said:
darius brought a consistancy of decent bench scoring. thomas does not. what is thomas without the scoring? other than worthless i mean. what good is he if he brings nothing? exactly.
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Thomas is a much better rebounder than Darius also Thomas has a sweet jumper which he hasnt found this season. if thomas gets enough minutes he can be a double double guy
 
kingsfan916 said:
Thomas is a much better rebounder than Darius also Thomas has a sweet jumper which he hasnt found this season. if thomas gets enough minutes he can be a double double guy
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false, darius was the better rebounder with the kings and the much better scorer. thee consistant scorer. and also had some great games as a starter. thomas on the other hand hasn't shown up this year and is complete garbage.
 
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LA King Fan II said:
Pedro. I liked Vlade quite a bit. I watched him a lot in fact when he was a Laker. He was not a star then. I watched him a ton as a King. 13 points a game and 8 rebounds are not star numbers. I don't feel wrong.

Vlade, did however get the most from his talent and make others better as I said, and which you reiterated in your accelerated response.
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well, what i meant was that he was a star player in europe. he came over here when he was on the downside of his career and in a backup role with l.a. for awhile so it was hard for this older guy to really get any votes in the u.s. all star game, being older, a backup, a serb and getting limited minutes.

but as a king he was still a star in the sense that he made the team work. he was like the captain/leader/father/glue to these guys and kept their spirits up. he's the kind of player every great team has. if he had more minutes he'd have better numbers, period. age is always a factor.

btw how is mb right now? i used to live in hermosa.
 
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