What's the point of watching the rest of the games?
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Well I am a Bengal fan and have never even come close to going to Cincinnati.. closest I ever was to Cincinnati was St. Louis! But I would be a Bengal fan if they left Cincinnati.. Bengal fan for life.
The Kings are a different story though. I was a Laker fan before the Kings came to town (and a couple years after the Kings moved to Sac). Anyhow, my first Kings game that I EVER went to was against the Orlando Magic where the Kings lost 115-113. From that night on I was a Kings fan. Never missed a game on the Radio, and never missed a game when it was on TV. Started going to games regularly.
It was a father/son thing for me. A bonding experience with my pops. My dad ended up getting season tickets and my mom always made excuses not to go so that I could go with my dad. It was OUR thing. I ended up getting a season ticket of my own later on. Basketball was our thing. We would watch the college game and wonder what it would be like if this guy or that guy was on the Kings. My dad went to Memphis so we would always watch those games. That's why I am an Antonio Anderson homer.
Anyhow, if the Kings leave that will be why I am so hurt. That's mine and my dads thing.. We bonded because of the Kings. It was OUR thing. Someone in Australia or Canada who just watch the games on TV or the web didn't have my experience growing up with the Kings. Whenever me and my dad would fight I would vow that I was not going to go to any Kings games with him anymore (to see how he would like it if I wasn't there). Of course I still went. And we would make up over an Arco Dog and a soda.
Basically this team runs deeper for me than just being a team. So don't call me pathetic, or a bandwagon fan or whatever else you feel like calling me unless you understand where I am coming from. I bleed purple, and this whole situation hurts too much.
The Kings are a different story though. I was a Laker fan before the Kings came to town (and a couple years after the Kings moved to Sac). Anyhow, my first Kings game that I EVER went to was against the Orlando Magic where the Kings lost 115-113. From that night on I was a Kings fan. Never missed a game on the Radio, and never missed a game when it was on TV. Started going to games regularly.
It was a father/son thing for me. A bonding experience with my pops. My dad ended up getting season tickets and my mom always made excuses not to go so that I could go with my dad. It was OUR thing. I ended up getting a season ticket of my own later on. Basketball was our thing. We would watch the college game and wonder what it would be like if this guy or that guy was on the Kings. My dad went to Memphis so we would always watch those games. That's why I am an Antonio Anderson homer.
Anyhow, if the Kings leave that will be why I am so hurt. That's mine and my dads thing.. We bonded because of the Kings. It was OUR thing. Someone in Australia or Canada who just watch the games on TV or the web didn't have my experience growing up with the Kings. Whenever me and my dad would fight I would vow that I was not going to go to any Kings games with him anymore (to see how he would like it if I wasn't there). Of course I still went. And we would make up over an Arco Dog and a soda.
Basically this team runs deeper for me than just being a team. So don't call me pathetic, or a bandwagon fan or whatever else you feel like calling me unless you understand where I am coming from. I bleed purple, and this whole situation hurts too much.
It hurts all the same. My girlfriend hasn't left me yet, but I found out she's cheating on me. Do I really want to try to make things work?
That's my analogy and I am sticking to it
That's my analogy and I am sticking to it
Sorry man... Reminded of me when I had my heart broke and I wanted to keep picking up the phone to call her just to hear her voice or something.. Wasn't gonna happen. Had to stay strong. Sucked, but I managed to keep myself busy with the xbox
We don't live in a perfect world, and sometimes we have to adjust. If depriving yourself of the team you love makes you happy, then so be it. But whether the Kings leave or not, you'll still have access to them. The same way I do. Its not perfect, but its not as bad as you think. Don't think of them as sacramento's team or Anaheim's team. Think of them as your team. Just like your brother will always be your brother.
My love for the team hasn't diminished because I'm sitting in mexico. It wouldn't matter to me, if I was sitting on the moon. I'am sorry about your girlfriend though. Truth is, she's happier with me.
Picking and choosing a team because it is winning is one thing. It is not the same as growing up in a city and learning to love a team because it is part of your city, part of your identity and relationship with home. One is bandwagoning, and the other is completely natural.
To those that don't seem to understand the mindset of those in/from Sacramento, where are you from? Does your hometown have a team, perhaps in another sport? How would you feel if that team left? If you're able to overcome the hometown ties, good for you, but please stop the "I'm a better fan than you" nonsense. Remember, those who say it's about the name on the front of the jersey and not the back... that name is "Sacramento" for at least half the year.
To those that don't seem to understand the mindset of those in/from Sacramento, where are you from? Does your hometown have a team, perhaps in another sport? How would you feel if that team left? If you're able to overcome the hometown ties, good for you, but please stop the "I'm a better fan than you" nonsense. Remember, those who say it's about the name on the front of the jersey and not the back... that name is "Sacramento" for at least half the year.
I won't comment on your love life, but since you put it that way. If your bother or sister moved to another city, would you dis-own them? I don't want them to move any more than you do. And maybe because I'm 500 miles away from them, I have a different prespective than you do. I've already learned to love them from afar. Would I prefer for them to stay in sacramento? Damm right! Would I prefer to be in sacramento myself? Damm right again. But financial circumstance dictates where I live to some extent. And oddly enough, financial circumstance may dictate where the Kings end up as well.
We don't live in a perfect world, and sometimes we have to adjust. If depriving yourself of the team you love makes you happy, then so be it. But whether the Kings leave or not, you'll still have access to them. The same way I do. Its not perfect, but its not as bad as you think. Don't think of them as sacramento's team or Anaheim's team. Think of them as your team. Just like your brother will always be your brother.
My love for the team hasn't diminished because I'm sitting in mexico. It wouldn't matter to me, if I was sitting on the moon. I'am sorry about your girlfriend though. Truth is, she's happier with me.
We don't live in a perfect world, and sometimes we have to adjust. If depriving yourself of the team you love makes you happy, then so be it. But whether the Kings leave or not, you'll still have access to them. The same way I do. Its not perfect, but its not as bad as you think. Don't think of them as sacramento's team or Anaheim's team. Think of them as your team. Just like your brother will always be your brother.
My love for the team hasn't diminished because I'm sitting in mexico. It wouldn't matter to me, if I was sitting on the moon. I'am sorry about your girlfriend though. Truth is, she's happier with me.
My dad did all he could to turn me over the the Kings side of the coin by taking me to games, and chatting it up with me about the players and stuff. I am his only kid that actually likes sports so he tried and tried and tried. Was too hard for him to get me to like the Giants because of them boing so far away and we couldn't attend as many games as we wanted.
Enter the Kings. The Kings come to town and we have a professional team that is only 30 mins away from where we live. He tried and tried and tried to get me to like them... It was the Magic game when I was rotting and rooting for the kings to win. They lost but that night in November of 1989 I had become a Kings fan. From then on it was OUR thing to do. We went to game after game after game. It was my dad and I bonding.
Because I have such a strong emotional tie to the team I think them moving will make me not a fan of them anymore. Sorry but that's how I am wired mentally. I can't change the way I am, and I am not less of a fan while they were here because of that. I don't see many Seattle folks rooting for the Thunder. Same will happen to us Sac folks.
I won't comment on your love life, but since you put it that way. If your bother or sister moved to another city, would you dis-own them? I don't want them to move any more than you do. And maybe because I'm 500 miles away from them, I have a different prespective than you do. I've already learned to love them from afar. Would I prefer for them to stay in sacramento? Damm right! Would I prefer to be in sacramento myself? Damm right again. But financial circumstance dictates where I live to some extent. And oddly enough, financial circumstance may dictate where the Kings end up as well.
We don't live in a perfect world, and sometimes we have to adjust. If depriving yourself of the team you love makes you happy, then so be it. But whether the Kings leave or not, you'll still have access to them. The same way I do. Its not perfect, but its not as bad as you think. Don't think of them as sacramento's team or Anaheim's team. Think of them as your team. Just like your brother will always be your brother.
My love for the team hasn't diminished because I'm sitting in mexico. It wouldn't matter to me, if I was sitting on the moon. I'am sorry about your girlfriend though. Truth is, she's happier with me.
We don't live in a perfect world, and sometimes we have to adjust. If depriving yourself of the team you love makes you happy, then so be it. But whether the Kings leave or not, you'll still have access to them. The same way I do. Its not perfect, but its not as bad as you think. Don't think of them as sacramento's team or Anaheim's team. Think of them as your team. Just like your brother will always be your brother.
My love for the team hasn't diminished because I'm sitting in mexico. It wouldn't matter to me, if I was sitting on the moon. I'am sorry about your girlfriend though. Truth is, she's happier with me.
I thought I'd mention that I've been through this before. I grew up in St. Louis, which used to have a basketball team named the Hawks. The now, Atlanta Hawks. Guess what? They left because they didn't have a new arena. And to be fair to Hawks management, they had a legitimate gripe. The Hawks played in Keil auditorium, which seated around 12 thousand people at best. I was lucky enough to meet and become friends with Bob Pettit. So as you can imagine, their departure was very painful for me.
Did I still follow the team after they moved? Yes! It took some adjustment and some time, but eventually the old wounds healed. I might add, that following your team after it moved in those days, was a lot more difficult than it is today. There was no NBA TV back then. No cable channels to surf. No Dish or Direct TV networks. No computer either. All I had was the newspaper and the scores on the news.
We live in a different world now. Just about anything you want to watch is available. So if the team leaves, and you choose not to follow the team, then its because of choice, and not of lack of access.
Did I still follow the team after they moved? Yes! It took some adjustment and some time, but eventually the old wounds healed. I might add, that following your team after it moved in those days, was a lot more difficult than it is today. There was no NBA TV back then. No cable channels to surf. No Dish or Direct TV networks. No computer either. All I had was the newspaper and the scores on the news.
We live in a different world now. Just about anything you want to watch is available. So if the team leaves, and you choose not to follow the team, then its because of choice, and not of lack of access.
Thanks for sharing your story, baja. I imaging having gone through it before, you understand the feelings of some of us today. Maybe at some point I'll root for the team if they move to Anaheim, but in immediate future it will be tough. Im sure as you say the "old wounds" heal, but right now they haven't been opened all the way yet!
Well I had season tickets for around 17 of those years and the majority of them in the lower level. In my case, I couldn't afford them any longer. Lets be clear, I'm not going to get into this let me show you my scar from the war, which is better than your scar. I'm certainly not going to dispute your being a good fan. I think Gary is a good fan as well. If you don't want to follow, or watch the Kings if or after they leave, then don't. Thats your choice. All I'm suggesting is, worse case scenario, its not as bad following them from afar as you might think. Yes its an adjustment, and if you want to be stubborn and not try, then fine. I certainly understand.
But if the team brought you that much pleasure, I hate to see you deprive youself of that pleasure. Hopefully it won't come to that. My sister decided to move to Chicago a long time ago. I missed her then, and I still miss her. But she's still family, and I don't abandon family just to appease my own pride. Her life is about her life, not mine. And vice versa...
But if the team brought you that much pleasure, I hate to see you deprive youself of that pleasure. Hopefully it won't come to that. My sister decided to move to Chicago a long time ago. I missed her then, and I still miss her. But she's still family, and I don't abandon family just to appease my own pride. Her life is about her life, not mine. And vice versa...
Yeah Lou Hudson was there. Wilkins was a rookie if my memory serves. I go all the way back to Slatter Martin, Cliff Hagen, Easy Ed McCauley, Charlie Share, and of course the great Bob Pettit. The Hawks had some great teams. Unfortunately so did the Celtics. This was during the Bill Russell era. Then that bastard Chamberlain came along as well.
I don't remember Charlie Share but the rest I remember. I saw a double header in Minneapolis in some pitiful downtown arena and The Globe Trotters played with Wilt on their team. Did anyone know he didn't go straight to the NBA because it didn't pay well enough? The Hawks played undoubtedly because Hudson was on the team. Wilt as a youngster was truly a stilt. I remember Wilkens although I don't think there was anything that made him stand out.
Celtics were dominant with KC and Sam Jones, Havlicek, Don Nelson, Russell, etc. My memory needs jogging but Sam was a scorer. Havlicek created the value of the 6th man. Maybe I've got eras mushed together.
The stats Wilt put up couldn't be done now. Imagine avergaing 50 pts. a game or 30 rebounds a game and once leading the league in assists just because he wanted to. He did that with the Lakers. He did what his coach wanted him to do. The year he averaged 50 pts. was a year the team had no scorers and he was told to shoot. It's amazing that Russell gave him trouble.
Celtics were dominant with KC and Sam Jones, Havlicek, Don Nelson, Russell, etc. My memory needs jogging but Sam was a scorer. Havlicek created the value of the 6th man. Maybe I've got eras mushed together.
The stats Wilt put up couldn't be done now. Imagine avergaing 50 pts. a game or 30 rebounds a game and once leading the league in assists just because he wanted to. He did that with the Lakers. He did what his coach wanted him to do. The year he averaged 50 pts. was a year the team had no scorers and he was told to shoot. It's amazing that Russell gave him trouble.
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I wasn't describing my loyalty. You need to read more carefully. If I was a bandwagon fan, I'd not be a Kings fan now. I'd have jumped ship years ago. I tried to highlight the difference between regional loyalty and team/player loyalty, too. I guess expecting folks here to read things correctly and not make stupid assumptions about you is just too much to ask.
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I think it should be pointed out that Wilt gave Russell a few problems as well. And yes, I did know that Wilt went to the globetrotters before entering the NBA. Of course back in those days, the NBA was having a hard time competing with college basketball.
Its easy to get the era's mixed together. When talking about the Celtics don't forget, Tommy Heinsohn, Bob Cousy, Frank Ramsey and Bill Sharman. A lot of people forget that the great Georgetown coach, John Thompson also played on those Celtics teams.
I went back and looked up Hudson, and he came to the Hawks after they moved. But the did have Lenny Wilkins, Bill Bridges, Clyde Lovellette, Zelmo Beaty, and a young Jeff Mullins, who later played for the Warriors. Not to be confused with Chris Mullins. And no, they aren't related. I went to school with Jeff Mullins. Well sort of. He was a senior and I was a freshman.
Its easy to get the era's mixed together. When talking about the Celtics don't forget, Tommy Heinsohn, Bob Cousy, Frank Ramsey and Bill Sharman. A lot of people forget that the great Georgetown coach, John Thompson also played on those Celtics teams.
I went back and looked up Hudson, and he came to the Hawks after they moved. But the did have Lenny Wilkins, Bill Bridges, Clyde Lovellette, Zelmo Beaty, and a young Jeff Mullins, who later played for the Warriors. Not to be confused with Chris Mullins. And no, they aren't related. I went to school with Jeff Mullins. Well sort of. He was a senior and I was a freshman.
This was the paragraph I was referring to. Now maybe you were just generalizing, but it appeared to me that at the very least you were defending the position of someone I would call a bandwagon fan. Not that they need defending. Its not a criminal offense to be one. We're a little sensitive today, aren't we?
As if the post I responded to wasn't condescending to me. Some of you seem to have very selective methods that ignore condescension from certain posters and condemn other posters for it. I'm basically just going tit for tat with folks. If someone makes a snarky comment to me, I make one back. That's how I roll. I'm not a "turn the other cheek" type of person.
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Not so much defending it (as I don't think it requires any defense) but explaining it. I'd concede that jumping from one team to another based on whoever is winning at the moment is kind of weak. However, I think the notion that people should show blind loyalty no matter how terrible a franchise is, is a little silly. If that's how it works for some folks, great, more power to them. But spare me the juvenile elitism and oneupmanship (not you in particular, just in general).
