What a difference a day makes ...

Post-combine, it seems that this draft has a consensus "top 5."

Wall is clearly numero uno, but the race clearly tightens amongst the rest: Turner, Favors, Johnson, and Cousins. I've pretty much conceded that Turner and Favors are out of the equation but the rest of the pickens are not too slim. What a segue to discuss Demarcus Cousins...

Evans, Cousins, and the crew:
Cousins value has probably taken a hit after comming into the combine looking bigger and not interviewing particularly well. The fact that Cousins has never lifted weights in his life and is trying to lose wight be going on a "salad and seafood" diet (ahem, is he gobbling down a bunch of candied shrimp dripping with butter, cause technically that's seafood) ... I don't know, the kid sounds pretty misdirected and naive to me.

That said, it's unwise to ignore his 7'6" wingspan and tremendous standing reach of 9'5". And although Cousins was tipping the scales at 290, after claiming he dropped 5 pounds from dieting, I'm actually encouraged by his 16 percent body fat. Cousins actually has a great body to work with, the question is how hard is he willing to work. But the sky is the limit with Cousins and selecting him with the 5th pick would be well worth the risk.

Now if the Kings go with Cousins, they probably are best served selecting a guard at 33. For the sake of the below depth chart, lets assume the Kings select Terrico White, whose athletic testing and measurements were very impressive: 6'5" in shoes, 6'9" wingspan, 40" vertical, and 3.7% body fat. White has a good mid-range game and can curl off screens, which should fit nicely on offense and has the size and athleticism to guard either guard spot with Tyreke. Similar to Beno, he's not a pure point guard, which is fine as Tyreke will initiate the offense on most occassions. But White has many limitations as is to be expected at 33. Draft express compares him to Flip Murray.

Evans/Udrih
Garcia/White
Greene/Casspi
Landry/Thompson/Brockman
Cousins/Hawes

Back to the man of the moment, Cousins would address many of the Kings' front court concerns. Cousins would become the primary low post weapon while Landry could play second-fiddle and receive jumpers due to the double teams Cousins commands. Cousins shores up any remaining rebounding concerns and helps some with shot blocking. He actually shows very good mobility in the post and I expect his explosiveness will improve if/when he sheds 15-20 pounds of baby fat. And although some claim that Cousins' attitude/anger is his achilles' heel, it can easily be argued that the Kings need a rough and touble personality down low who knows how to throw his weight around.

Evans, Johnson, and the crew:
I was really impressed with Wesley Johnson's measurements, athletic testing, and interview. If Petrie believes that Johnson's ball-handling is up to par, he could compliment Tyreke Evans very nicely and fortify the Kings backcourt for the next decade. Defensively, both are tall and long. Their standing reaches alone, 8'8" and 8'10", would be average for a pair of NBA forwards for goodness sake! Shot-blocking, steals, and deflections would be common place. Both have good quickness relative to their size, but the Kings would probably want to think about a quicker, pure point to come off the bench down the road for match ups. Evans and Johnson would be just as complimentary on the offensive end. Tyreke needs room to operate and Johnson already has tremendous catch-and-shoot ability from distance. They even compliment each other athletically, Tyreke depending more on brute strength and Johnson on his graceful leaps to the hole (37" vertical).

If the Kings were to pick Johnson with the 5th pick, I think they need to pick the best available big with the 33rd pick. Assuming he's there, I'm plugging in Jarvis Varnado to the depth chart.

Evans/Udrih
Johnson/Garcia
Greene/Casspi
Landry/Brockman/Varnado
Thompson/Hawes

Basically, if Johnson is the worst-case-scenario, I still come away feeling like the Kings are winners in this draft. And tell me, how does a kid with a 7'0" wing span, who weighs 200 pounds and has less than 5 percent body fat rep 180 pounds 16 times? I was blown away by that number.

And how about a player of Varnado's status (all time NCAA shot-blocker?) possibly being available at 33? He actually measured pretty well IMO: 6'10" in shoes with a 7'3" wingspan and 9'1" standing reach. I think he'd compliment the front court nicely as he and Brockman can offer elite shot-blocking and rebounding, respectively, as needed. Kings need some rebounds, just summon the Brockness Monster. Kings need some shot-blocking, Jarvis is on the case!

I don't know if I'm in blind optimism mode or not, but I feel either Johnson or Cousins will help this team a lot. They'd help in totally different ways, but I think they both potentially address areas of significant need.

KOTJ
 
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I'm glad many people here are seeing Johnson as BPA, I really hope he ends up being our pick if Cousins isn't there. I consider ourselves winners if we get him, but it's still a let down that we couldn't get a shot at Favors. I was never greedy, Wall or Turner would have been nice, but Favors was all I needed to get amped about this draft. Johnson may not be at a position we need at the moment, but he'll add a lot of talent and he'll be the ideal complimentary player to Evans. We could definitely use that. In the end though, I don't think Petrie takes Johnson.
 
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I'm glad a many people here are seeing Johnson as BPA, I really hope he ends up being our pick if Cousins isn't there. I consider ourselves winners if we get him, but it's still a let down that we couldn't get a shot at Favors. I was never greedy, Wall or Turner would have been nice, but Favors was all I needed to get amped about this draft. Johnson may not be at a position we need at the moment, but he'll add a lot of talent and he'll be the ideal complimentary player to Evans. We could definitely use that. In the end though, I don't think Petrie takes Johnson.


Really? I think he's exactly the type of guy Petrie likes. Very skilled, good size and athletic ability, can really shoot the ball, and above all, has fantastic character and personality. I can see Geoff loving Wes. Only thing that might make him think twice is that we have Greene and Casspi, both of whom the fans like and have shown alot of promise. I guess that problem is somewhat negated if Johnson can play the 2.

I don't want to trade down. Just give me Cousins or Johnson.
 
Evans/Udrih
Garcia/White
Greene/Casspi
Landry/Thompson/Brockman
Cousins/Hawes

Evans/Udrih
Johnson/Garcia
Greene/Casspi
Landry/Brockman/Varnado
Thompson/Hawes
Thank you for picking the 6' 8.25" ( 6' 10" with shoes ) shot-blocker Jarvis Varnado at #33 which makes picking Wes Johnson at #5 a little bit palatable. I see Varnado as the second coming of Ben Wallace ( if he is able to gain weight ) or Emeka Okafor.

Actually, I was thinking if we get Cousins at #5 we might as well get the shot blocking Varnado at #33. That would be an awesome frontline and might be enough defensively to match the likes of Bynum/Gasol, Gortat/Howard or any combination of bigs in the NBA.

I don't worry that much about our backcourt. Beno plays pretty well with Evans and we still have Garcia, Casspi, or even Greene who shows some promise of developing as Evans side-kick.

Also, we are pretty much set at the 3 with Greene, Casspi, Nocioni, and Garcia.

My ideal line-up after the draft would be:

C - Cousins/Hawes ( Thompson )
PF - Varnado/Thompson ( Landry or Brockman )
SF - Greene/Casspi ( Nocioni or Garcia )
SG - Udrih/Garcia ( Greene or Casspi )
PG - Evans/Udrih ( Garcia )

And I hope May and Udoka will be gone when the season starts.
 
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Varnado is definitely not ready to start as a rookie. There is a good chance he'll never be that good. He doesn't have very good size and he's weak. I'd be fine with him at 33 because he's worth a shot and he brings shot-blocking. But you just don't start him, especially not as a rookie. If he was good enough to start, and with his skills, he would be taken in the lottery. Plus, we have both Thompson and Landry. No way he gets in ahead of those two.

I'm fine with Varnado. I like him. But let's not get ahead of ourselves.
 
But you just don't start him, especially not as a rookie. If he was good enough to start, and with his skills, he would be taken in the lottery. Plus, we have both Thompson and Landry. No way he gets in ahead of those two.
Thanks for pointing that out.:D

I agree that Varnado will not be ready to start on day one this coming season. I got too excited on the possibility of him being able to carry his shot-blocking skills in the NBA that I forgot the hard-working Thompson and the very good but undersized Landry.

Revised Line-up:
C - Cousins/Hawes ( Thompson )
PF - Thompson/Landry ( Varnado or Brockman )
SF - Greene/Casspi ( Nocioni or Garcia )
SG - Udrih/Garcia ( Greene or Casspi )
PG - Evans/Udrih ( Garcia )
 
I agree. I like Varnado, which is why I picked him at 33, but I have him behind Landry, Thompson, AND Brockman on my depth chart.

Also, I agree with the idea that both Cousins and Varnado could be drafted. Westphal would have 8 young front court pieces to mix and match until he finds the right combination:

Greene, Casspi, Landry, Thompson, Brockman, Varnado, Cousins, Hawes
 
Cousins and Vernardo is a nice draft, I remember watching alot of Vernardo this year I honestly forgot about him, I'm glad others remember him I think he def has a special nose for the defensive side of the ball and you cant have too many of those guys on the roster especially if they are big enough to play in the NBA.

Also maybe we can bring in a couple undrafted guards for a look during training camp maybe a guy like Routins who is a knock down shooter I don't particularly see getting picked draft night.
 
This is an interesting draft. In one sense, the Kings have no shot at the two most talented and promising players. On the other hand, the consensus #3-5 players all fit in better with the Kings IMO.

In general, any team picking in the top 5 should take the absolute best player and move on from there. But the Kings are slightly different in that they have a face of their franchise. Not a "this is a good player on a bad team and therefore putting up all-star like numbers" but an honest to goodness star in the making and a true focal point in Tyreke.

And because of that, the team really does need to consder not only talent but how the players they'd bring in would fit alongside him.

And honestly, I don't see a Wall/Evans or even a Turner/Evans backcourt being a great scenario. Both Wall and Turner need the ball in their hands too much to be effective alongside a ball dominant guard like Tyreke.

The next three players however, all seem like very good fits to me.

Favors is the athletic big man that would add strength, athleticism, rebounding and interior defense. He's a guy that would allow the Kings to get up and down the floor and give Tyreke a Amare/Howard like running mate.

Cousins seems to bring everything the Kings need. Size, low post scoring, toughness, post defense & lane clogging, some shotblocking, and rebounding. He'd make the Kings a bit more of a halfcourt team, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Of course questions about his weight/discipline and attitude re why a player with such potential could be available at five. With no red flags, a player like Cousins would go at least #2 if not #1 over Wall. Still, a star at guard and a potential star at center is an ideal situation.

But Wes Johnson is yet another player that I think would really fit well alongside Tyreke. I DO see him playing SG and he has enough ball handling ability to take pressure off Evans. But he doesn't NEED the ball in his hands to be effective. He can run the floor in transition, spot up for shots or drive to the hoop when given the opportunity. He should be a very good defender and rebounder for the position, is very unselfish and should contribute immediately. If Geoff thinks he can be a SG (and I certainly do) then he's a perfect running mate. I could see him in time being a rich man's Doug Christie which would be perfect.

I think Wall will be a flat out stud, even if he and Tyreke wouldn't be an ideal fit. I really like Turner but I don't see him being a star. A very good complimentary player, sure, but he's ball dominant and not a great outside shooter so I don't see him as a great fit for the Kings.

And while Petrie may go a completely different direction with the pick or even trade down, I'd be perfectly content with staying at #5 and picking whoever is left of Favors, Cousins and Johnson.
 
Really? I think he's exactly the type of guy Petrie likes. Very skilled, good size and athletic ability, can really shoot the ball, and above all, has fantastic character and personality. I can see Geoff loving Wes. Only thing that might make him think twice is that we have Greene and Casspi, both of whom the fans like and have shown alot of promise. I guess that problem is somewhat negated if Johnson can play the 2.

I don't want to trade down. Just give me Cousins or Johnson.

I suppose my feeling is not really based in reason, but rather superstition. He's never taken anyone that I've had number 1 on the board.
 
Is that good or bad? I wouldn't give two cents for my pick.

I'll let you decide

2006 - Rondo
2007 - Julian Wright (Hawes was no.2)
2008 - Anthony Randolph
2009 - Rubio (Evans was no.2)

There's some iffy picks, but 3 out of 4 years I found myself very upset, initially.
 
The OP sums it up quite well. Of course, Petrie could come out of left field with something, but as of today this looks like a good Plan A (Cousins and best guard at 33) and Plan B (Johnson and best big). Although I'd probably go with Brackins over Varnado at 33.
 
And how about a player of Varnado's status (all time NCAA shot-blocker?) possibly being available at 33? He actually measured pretty well IMO: 6'10" in shoes with a 7'3" wingspan and 9'1" standing reach. I think he'd compliment the front court nicely as he and Brockman can offer elite shot-blocking and rebounding, respectively, as needed. Kings need some rebounds, just summon the Brockness Monster. Kings need some shot-blocking, Jarvis is on the case!
KOTJ

That's fine if you're talking 2nd round picks rotating for your fourth big man spot. But the big three (in terms of playing time) of Landry, Thompson, and Hawes would be the same last year. Even if Hawes and Thompson progress, none of that group is the big body this team desperately needs inside. A trade, I guess, would have to follow.
 
That's fine if you're talking 2nd round picks rotating for your fourth big man spot. But the big three (in terms of playing time) of Landry, Thompson, and Hawes would be the same last year. Even if Hawes and Thompson progress, none of that group is the big body this team desperately needs inside. A trade, I guess, would have to follow.

That's exactly the point: Typically, the best case scenario regarding 2nd round bigs is that they at least specialize in something. Varnando swats at flies, Brockman polishes glass, Landry sweats blood (yeah, don't forget he was a second rounder too).

But you bring up an important point because the Kings' front court is a long way from elite, which is why my preference remains Cousins at 5. Although I despise the Lakers, they show that it's usually wise to have tall players on your basketball team.

Envision a starting front line of Greene, Thompson, and Cousins, a front line of 6'11" players (increasing in length and weight from 3-5).

Thompson and Cousins would dominate the boards and provide enough length (and attitude) for off the ball defense. Cousins moves his feet really well for a big and I think his defense will translate well to the NBA. Greene's defense has come along nicely and I still believe Thompson's will come around. So I see big defensive potential there.

On offense, Cousins would be the anchor, consistently drawing double teams. Although Cousins didn't average many assists for Kentuky, he's a very talented passer, just an unwilling one at times. And that's what cracks me up about the Monroe talk: Cousins is MORE skilled than Monroe (and Monroe's best asset is his skill level).

But I digress. Thompson and Greene's jumpers continue to steady and they should benefit from Cousins' low post offense. The Kings have Garcia and Udrih to spread the floor with shooting until an upgrade is available (next draft?) and my hope is all of this opens up lanes for Tyreke's penetration. An Evans/Cousins pick and roll on occassion would probably work too!

The question then becomes what frontcourt backups do you retain? Landry and Hawes are both up for new contracts next summer and the state of the new CBA has yet to be determined. The Kings don't want to handcuff their rebuilding effort just as it's taking off and spend money before knowing if a new hard cap will be implemented. My hope is that this reality will drop everyone's market value down some next summer and the Kings can re-sign both to sweet heart deals, maybe a little home town discount: I'm looking at you Hawes! How much have you really earned? But if the Kings did retain both, a backup frontcourt of Casspi, Landry, Brockman, Varnado, and Hawes would certainly be nothing to shake a stick at. A 7 man front court rotation is pretty impressive depth, but made even more impressive when you consider the mean age and variety of skill sets.

Greene/Casspi
Thompson/Landry/Brockman
Cousins/Hawes/Varnado

KOTJ
 
It's been a 5 man draft all along and anybody that didn't realize it simply wasn't paying enough attention. Kings need to draft whoever is left standing out of that 5. It's not the year to reach, this isn't a late lotto pick and whoever is left at 5 is clearly the BPA.
 
That's exactly the point: Typically, the best case scenario regarding 2nd round bigs is that they at least specialize in something. Varnando swats at flies, Brockman polishes glass, Landry sweats blood (yeah, don't forget he was a second rounder too).

But you bring up an important point because the Kings' front court is a long way from elite, which is why my preference remains Cousins at 5. Although I despise the Lakers, they show that it's usually wise to have tall players on your basketball team.

You'll get no disagreement from me on Cousins. If Minnesota drafts him at #4, David Stern shouldn't even go back behind the stage, he should just announce our pick of Cousins right after. It gets dicey, though, once you start talking about improving our interior presence if he's not there.
 
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