wasted 2nd round picks.

[Entity]

Since we always seem to waste 2nd round picks. Why not a take a flyer on Jason's brother Ryan Thompson so maybe they can atleast play together in the summer league for a few games. Who knows maybe he makes it to preseason. Just thought it would be cool for him and Jason since we waste the 2nd round picks anyway. Maybe even a FA pick up if he don't get drafted.

he is averaging 16.9pts 6.6reb 3.4ast and 1.9stls at Rider.

 

[nbrans]

I know Geoff treats the 2nd Round like it's a root canal, but this could actually be one of those random years like 2000 when some of the best players in the draft come out of the second round. We have a better reason to draft Ryan Thompson than we did, say, Ryan Robertson or Patrick Ewing Jr., but for once I'd like to see Geoff actually try and pick a player that makes the team. Taj Gibson, Dionte Christmas, Jeff Pendergraph, Danny Green... I definitely can tell you that I'd rather have any of those guys than Earl Clark, Willie Warren or Patrick Patterson.

 

[gunks]

Couldnt hurt.

We always seem to find good talent with late picks, wonder what GP's deal is with the second round.

I mean, Redd and Luc Richard are killing us tonight, that should show Petrie that there is talent in round 2!

 

[Kingster]

I wish for once we'd get a decent player in the 2nd round. It's like our scouting department isn't deep enough for us to bother.

 

[Entity]

i personally think its a contract issue. He knows he will not have a contract for them so why bother. That was last year anyway. Now this year. We have Williams, Jackson, and Douby coming off the books. With 2 first rounders thats 2 contracts so there will be room for another baring any trades for expirings. If we do land expirings in a trade and don't add to the roster. We would actually have 4 spots open. Not sure if they would want to fill all 4 spots with rookies but, its a thought. If we don't get rid of one of the wings I sure as hell hope we don't draft another. Oh yeah Mikki could be bought out as well and save us a couple mil.

 

[Arby's Roast Beef]

Geoff's second round pick choices this year were horrendous--everyone knew that Sean Singletary and Patrick Ewing Jr were pretty much undrafted types, and there was still a wealth of talent touted from the draftniks (DeVon Hardin, Richard Hendrix, Bill Walker in particular) still available. At least Geoff traded them and got them away--but still, the second round picks could've been useful. Other than that, we haven't had a 2nd rounder since 2004--and I liked Ricky Minard (a small school guy who jumped into the radar suddenly, somewhat like Kevin Martin) but the cards just didn't fall his way. I agree with the idea that Geoff doesn't have much appeal for 2nd rounders, but if you look at what other teams have done with late 2nd/undrafted diamond in the rough types--Golden State (Anthony Morrow, Azubuike, Kurz?) and Dallas (Marquis Daniels, Jose Juan Barea, Josh Powell) then you can see there's some clear success with it. I think Geoff's a tad too conservative here, and he ought to be a Pritchard and stockpile more of these picks so we can keep them or use them as bargaining chips, rather than keep trading them away. Sack those veterans for picks.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

i wish petrie would use those 2nd rounders on foreign players to stash overseas. you know, if another team has a use for them, they would give something up for that player.. pick, cash, another player.

 

[HighTopKicks]

I know Geoff treats the 2nd Round like it's a root canal, but this could actually be one of those random years like 2000 when some of the best players in the draft come out of the second round. We have a better reason to draft Ryan Thompson than we did, say, Ryan Robertson or Patrick Ewing Jr., but for once I'd like to see Geoff actually try and pick a player that makes the team. Taj Gibson, Dionte Christmas, Jeff Pendergraph, Danny Green... I definitely can tell you that I'd rather have any of those guys than Earl Clark, Willie Warren or Patrick Patterson.

I'll second the Danny Green vote.

 

[bajaden]

I know Geoff treats the 2nd Round like it's a root canal, but this could actually be one of those random years like 2000 when some of the best players in the draft come out of the second round. We have a better reason to draft Ryan Thompson than we did, say, Ryan Robertson or Patrick Ewing Jr., but for once I'd like to see Geoff actually try and pick a player that makes the team. Taj Gibson, Dionte Christmas, Jeff Pendergraph, Danny Green... I definitely can tell you that I'd rather have any of those guys than Earl Clark, Willie Warren or Patrick Patterson.

We are in agreement on everyone except maybe Patterson. I think he can play a little bit. I also like Dionte's brother, Merry.

 

[nbrans]

We are in agreement on everyone except maybe Patterson. I think he can play a little bit. I also like Dionte's brother, Merry.

Lol about Merry.

I liked Patterson until I saw Tennessee (and especially Chism) push him around. Just don't know if he's strong and athletic enough to get by at 6'8". I reserve the right to get excited again.

 

[bajaden]

i personally think its a contract issue. He knows he will not have a contract for them so why bother. That was last year anyway. Now this year. We have Williams, Jackson, and Douby coming off the books. With 2 first rounders thats 2 contracts so there will be room for another baring any trades for expirings. If we do land expirings in a trade and don't add to the roster. We would actually have 4 spots open. Not sure if they would want to fill all 4 spots with rookies but, its a thought. If we don't get rid of one of the wings I sure as hell hope we don't draft another. Oh yeah Mikki could be bought out as well and save us a couple mil.

I don't think we have to buy out Mikki. I believe its just a matter of the Kings not picking up his option and he walks with 2 mil. Which is likely to happen.

 

[bajaden]

Geoff's second round pick choices this year were horrendous--everyone knew that Sean Singletary and Patrick Ewing Jr were pretty much undrafted types, and there was still a wealth of talent touted from the draftniks (DeVon Hardin, Richard Hendrix, Bill Walker in particular) still available. At least Geoff traded them and got them away--but still, the second round picks could've been useful. Other than that, we haven't had a 2nd rounder since 2004--and I liked Ricky Minard (a small school guy who jumped into the radar suddenly, somewhat like Kevin Martin) but the cards just didn't fall his way. I agree with the idea that Geoff doesn't have much appeal for 2nd rounders, but if you look at what other teams have done with late 2nd/undrafted diamond in the rough types--Golden State (Anthony Morrow, Azubuike, Kurz?) and Dallas (Marquis Daniels, Jose Juan Barea, Josh Powell) then you can see there's some clear success with it. I think Geoff's a tad too conservative here, and he ought to be a Pritchard and stockpile more of these picks so we can keep them or use them as bargaining chips, rather than keep trading them away. Sack those veterans for picks.

Last year may have been nothing more than a luxury tax advoidance. It was pretty apparent that they were going to do everything they could to get under the penalty. Which as Bricky pointed at in a much earlier thread, was as much about being a recepient of money as it was about paying the tax.

 

[HighTopKicks]

Last year may have been nothing more than a luxury tax advoidance. It was pretty apparent that they were going to do everything they could to get under the penalty. Which as Bricky pointed at in a much earlier thread, was as much about being a recepient of money as it was about paying the tax.

Then I guess the question is why didn't they trade them for future picks or even cash. Certainly at the time they didn't know that they'd be able to dump them in the Artest trade.

 

[bajaden]

Lol about Merry.

I liked Patterson until I saw Tennessee (and especially Chism) push him around. Just don't know if he's strong and athletic enough to get by at 6'8". I reserve the right to get excited again.

Yeah, there's no doubt that he's a bit undersized and still a work in progress. I don't think I would waste a first round pick on him at this point. Second round? Probably! A lot of things will shake out in the tournament.

 

[Circa_1985_Fan]

I don't think we have to buy out Mikki. I believe its just a matter of the Kings not picking up his option and he walks with 2 mil. Which is likely to happen.

Yeah, that's exactly what happens, the Kings have the option after this year...it's a weird contract that it's only gauranteed for 2 years but has the option for half of next season...but I DOUBT very seriously that we will even blink once at the option of retaining his 'services' after this years...thank God! lol

 

[Nighthawk1]

Why don't we just package the houston 1st and our 2nd for a lower position 1st, maybe in the 10-15 range?

 

[Bibby.10]

Well our 2nd will be about 5 or 6 picks away from when we picked Martin so who knows...