Voisin: Lakers now know what Kings have gone through

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Ailene Voisin: Lakers now know what Kings have gone through
By Ailene Voisin - Bee Sports Columnist
Last Updated 12:13 am PDT Thursday, May 31, 2007
Story appeared in SPORTS section, Page C1


The owner is taking hits for allegedly taking too many sips. The general manager is excoriated for passive roster maintenance. The role players are injured or undergoing surgery, possibly even seeking therapy. Phil Jackson has gone underground. The Buss siblings are feuding. And in the latest in a series of massive grumblings coming out of Staples Center, Kobe Bryant is demanding a trade, then reconsidering and recanting, and reconsidering again.

And all I can say to the Lakers is ... welcome to earth. There is plenty of Advil to go around.

They think they know pain? That bone-crunching, mind-numbing, ligament-tearing agony? Those cruel and unusual ill-fated developments that make children cry and cripple a franchise for years? Say, like what happened in Game 6 of that 2002 Kings-Lakers classic?

Five years ago tonight.

That was pain.

That was debilitating.

That was the night of the phantom fourth-quarter fouls called against Vlade Divac and Scot Pollard, the officiating heist (league-wide consensus by the way, not merely my spin) that forced Game 7 at Arco Arena. The Kings took it from there. Their weak knees and missed free throws cost them the game and precipitated an eventual decline, the Kings never again reaching the conference finals, never again coming so close to a championship ring.

"We can make a million excuses," Kings co-owner Joe Maloof said Wednesday, "but we've had a run of bad luck."

Chris Webber tore up his knee the next season. Vlade Divac and Doug Christie grew old. Peja Stojakovic grew comfortable. Bobby Jackson got hurt. Rick Adelman lost his job, Eric Musselman lost his locker room, and early playoff exits and disgruntled crowds became a prelude to a risky trade (Peja for Ron Artest) and what can only be called a rebuilding era.

It happens. It just never happens to this extent to the Lakers.

Years ago -- heck, months ago -- players begged to wear those ugly purple and yellow jerseys, to join the franchise of West and Baylor, Magic and Kareem, Pat Riley and Phil Jackson, and Shaq and Kobe. This is the organization that reacted with uncommon grace and sensitivity when Magic Johnson contracted the AIDS virus, that overcame the controversial firing of Paul Westhead, the unpopular trade of Norm Nixon (for Byron Scott), the departures of Riley, West and Jackson and the hammer-swinging exit of O'Neal, along with the accusations of sexual assault against Bryant.

Excluding a few clumsy offseasons, the Lakers have represented the essence of NBA entertainment and stability. Yet lately, that glossy image is showing its sweat. The postseason ended in one brief round. Siblings Jeanie and Jim Buss sniped at each other on radio shows. West resigned from the Memphis Grizzlies and, after studying his old club's dynamic, denied any interest in returning. Dr. Buss was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence, his companion young enough to be his great-granddaughter.

And now, within a matter of hours, the owner's favored young superstar flips insults into the air like so many burgers before trying to roll the hurtful words back under his tongue, only to spit them back out again.

"The more I thought about my future," a frustrated Bryant writes on his official Web site, "the more I became convinced that the Lakers and me just have two different visions of the future. The Lakers are pursuing a longer-term plan that is different from what Dr. Buss shared with me at the time I re-signed as a free agent. I have seen that plan unfold the last three years and watched great trade opportunities come and go, and have seen free agents passed on. That has led to the Lakers not winning a playoff series. All of that in itself, but then, this week, to have someone 'inside' the Laker organization try to blame me in the media for us not being a contender right now -- that is what brought me to my current position today."

Which is exactly what? Kobe wants to be traded, then doesn't want to be traded, then wants to be traded. Regardless, every dysfunctional family has its limits. Once scorned (see Shaq ripping into Buss), the owner seldom allows for seconds. Kobe will be history. So where to from here? The Suns? The Warriors? The Magic?

The Kings?

"I would never say never," Kings co-owner Gavin Maloof said. "He (Bryant) would have to demand a trade to Sacramento. But what do we have to give the Lakers? Talk to Geoff (Petrie). I think it's just a ploy to get Jerry West back. But I don't take (joy) in what's happening there. What's that saying? It gets lonely at the top. That could happen to us."

About the writer: Reach Ailene Voisin at (916) 321-1208 or avoisin@sacbee.com
 
As far as I'm concerned the stuff they're going through right now isn't CLOSE to what we went through over the last 5 years.
 
Voisin is Clueless

The Lakers have zero idea what the Kings have gone through.

Not even close.

There's hope for the future here, though. Let's face it, Kobe's original comment is that the Lakers front office is a mess. Not to put too fine a point on it, but Check, he got that one right. They're clueless.

Not saying the Lakers will spend close to a decade averaging 27 wins, like the Kings did, but I can definitely see them hitting those lofty heights next year (and maybe for a few years). If that happens, Voisin's point might be valid.

Here's hoping there's a Joe Klein and a Ralph Sampson in the Lakers' future.
 
To me there is virtually nothing more uplifting than seeing the Lakers organization sputter out of control into the abyss known as sucky-hood-ness-dom. The misery of their fans is like music to my ears. Cry laker fans, cry.
 
To me there is virtually nothing more uplifting than seeing the Lakers organization sputter out of control into the abyss known as sucky-hood-ness-dom.

I agree and I think Voisin summarized the whole thing quite well right here:

Excluding a few clumsy offseasons, the Lakers have represented the essence of NBA entertainment and stability. Yet lately, that glossy image is showing its sweat. The postseason ended in one brief round. Siblings Jeanie and Jim Buss sniped at each other on radio shows. West resigned from the Memphis Grizzlies and, after studying his old club's dynamic, denied any interest in returning. Dr. Buss was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence, his companion young enough to be his great-granddaughter.

And now, within a matter of hours, the owner's favored young superstar flips insults into the air like so many burgers before trying to roll the hurtful words back under his tongue, only to spit them back out again.

Music to my ears. Looks like a few potholes have developed in the road to Paradise.

;)
 
Aileen is off if she doesn't think the Lakers could conjure up a year that compares to Sacto's 2002. LA already experienced 2002 in 1962 against Boston (Gm4 buzzer loss, flubbed gm-winner in regulation, lost in OT of Gm7).

1969 was probably the worst Finals loss in NBA history. Or tell me one that was worse.

LA had starter(s) get webbered right before or during the Finals in 1977, 1983, 1989, 2004. They could've won the title healthy in any of those years.

LA experienced what Phx went thru this year against Boston in 1984. Dirty clothesline and unchecked roughness on defense as soon as Boston fell behind.
 
yawn.... cry me a f***ing river...
There's no way in F'ing hell that the Lakers(and their 'fans') have any idea of what its like to hit anything close to rock freaking bottom!!!! Dammit, this isnt going to turn into the 'lets look at the Lakers' similarities with the Kings from years past' because it isnt even CLOSE to being similar!! HELLO!!, they have 14 things that we have a big fat...no, no...OBESE 0!!! And those 'THINGS' are called CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!!! Dammit, at least if we'd have won just ONE damn ring, we could have some memories to drown our sorrows in, but LA and their 14 freaking Championships OWNS us!!! We have NOTHING!! Until we win a title, we are always their little...ah hell, nevermind, this does me no good...get a clue Aileen, because you have NO IDEA what it's like to have been with this franchise, especially for us fans, in this city, and even the former of K.C. ITS PAINFUL TO LOVE THIS TEAM, DAMMIT!
 
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There's no way in F'ing hell that the Lakers(and their 'fans') have any idea of what its like to hit anything close to rock freaking bottom!!!! Dammit, this isnt going to turn into the 'lets look at the Lakers' similarities with the Kings from years past' because it isnt even CLOSE to being similar!! HELLO!!, they have 14 things that we have a big fat...no, no...OBESE 0!!! And those 'THINGS' are called CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!!! Dammit, at least if we'd have won just ONE damn ring, we could have some memories to drown our sorrows in, but LA and their 14 freaking Championships OWNS us!!! We have NOTHING!! Until we win a title, we are always their little...ah hell, nevermind, this does me no good...get a clue Aileen, because you have NO IDEA what it's like to have been with this franchise, especially for us fans, in this city, and even the former of K.C. ITS PAINFUL TO LOVE THIS TEAM, DAMMIT!
Wow, that's a lot of ALL CAPS THERE! ;)
 
There's no way in F'ing hell that the Lakers(and their 'fans') have any idea of what its like to hit anything close to rock freaking bottom!!!! Dammit, this isnt going to turn into the 'lets look at the Lakers' similarities with the Kings from years past' because it isnt even CLOSE to being similar!! HELLO!!, they have 14 things that we have a big fat...no, no...OBESE 0!!! And those 'THINGS' are called CHAMPIONSHIPS!!!!! Dammit, at least if we'd have won just ONE damn ring, we could have some memories to drown our sorrows in, but LA and their 14 freaking Championships OWNS us!!! We have NOTHING!! Until we win a title, we are always their little...ah hell, nevermind, this does me no good...get a clue Aileen, because you have NO IDEA what it's like to have been with this franchise, especially for us fans, in this city, and even the former of K.C. ITS PAINFUL TO LOVE THIS TEAM, DAMMIT!


Er.... :confused:
 
Sorry Brick...just venting there, I guess...the only thing I was saying was that there is no such thing as the Kings, their team, owners, fans, city, etc. even remotely similar to LA, strictly because of the Championship factor. We as a team, city...as fans, especially...all enjoyed our 8 years of success, but nonetheless, we still didnt get what was the ultimate goal...a Championship...and were left empty...and all those years, LA won what we wanted, so the ongoing low blow from that team and city continues. There's nothing similar between us and them...AT ALL!
 
Technically, the Los Angeles Lakers only have nine championships... otherwise, it's 14 to 1...
Yeah, I gotcha...and I guess if you want to break it down even more...its 9-0...The Lakers having won the 9 titles while being in LA, and us left with the big fat zero...and I dont really count the Rochester Royals in 1950-51, because most of us weren't even born then...and I doubt any of us get our pride built up by ackowledging something that happened 56 years ago...especially when in the presence of a fan of a team that HAS won a title in our lifetimes...let alone the last few years, like LA.
 
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