Update to Amicks blog on Martin

[Rookie]

Brick if you going to be cocky about being right then I just have to use that bat of yours and...

JK

I don't think what Brick stated was that bad. Oh well I'm moving on too.

 

[DocHolliday]

KMart is a good dude if he really believes he's the man he can go and be the man nothing wrong with that. This just wasn't his team though Tyreke has shown that he is the guy around these parts.

I wish Kevin luck I know he can shine in Houston, if he really wanted out well he got his wish.

Marty Mac?? Is that you?

 

[Jkbiker]

Basically Martin wanted out, and if the Kings hadn't traded him, it might have boiled over this summer with a trade request by his agent. I had caught wind that this may have been brewing.

Interesting read.

Was the above paragraph the part that was edited out of the article?
I was not sure if it was the edited text or your summary of the quote

I could not get the link to work to see the italisized text that was edited out

I did read the explanation where Amick explained about Fagan and his bias towards Rubio

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/sports/kings/

the explanation is a good read, more of an agents opinion on what Kevin was thinking and Sam Amick's opinion that it might have blown up next
summer

 

[DocHolliday]

Was the above paragraph the part that was edited out of the article?
I was not sure if it was the edited text or your summary of the quote

I could not get the link to work to see the italisized text that was edited out

I did read the explanation where Amick explained about Fagan and his bias towards Rubio

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/sports/kings/

the explanation is a good read, more of an agents opinion on what Kevin was thinking and Sam Amick's opinion that it might have blown up next
summer

I'd copy and paste it for you, but it seems that the article I posted earlier is gone, at least the one where the sections that had been removed were in bold and italicized

 

[swisshh]

My question has always been how Tyreke fits with the team they had been assembling. I still find the front office confused with what they're trying to create. This goes back to Theus and the 'pretty' comment he made about the team he coached. Taking his ego out of it, he clearly saw a direction of play represented in the players Petrie had drafted and attained, and that team he coached was seen by most everyone as lacking a PG to get all those offensive players the ball. Then they go and draft Tyreke, who fits more naturally into Kevin's position, but you can't say that as long as you have Kevin. Kevin's agent felt this way as well. He is speaking for Kevin, so I won't say that Kevin completely felt this way, too. I would assume though that the current evidence of this season would agree with this assessment.

So, it leaves me questioning whether the team is rebuilding yet again, if previous pieces like Cisco, Hawes, JT, etc even fit with what a Tyreke future represents, and how an organization can continually lie to its fanbase while expecting to get an arena deal done. The Kings keep breeding bad blood by not being upfront. They're failing on the court to convince fans of an intention to win and failing off the court in convincing the fans to trust them. They are living off of past good will.

 

[Bricklayer]

My question has always been how Tyreke fits with the team they had been assembling. I still find the front office confused with what they're trying to create. This goes back to Theus and the 'pretty' comment he made about the team he coached. Taking his ego out of it, he clearly saw a direction of play represented in the players Petrie had drafted and attained, and that team he coached was seen by most everyone as lacking a PG to get all those offensive players the ball. Then they go and draft Tyreke, who fits more naturally into Kevin's position, but you can't say that as long as you have Kevin. Kevin's agent felt this way as well. He is speaking for Kevin, so I won't say that Kevin completely felt this way, too. I would assume though that the current evidence of this season would agree with this assessment.

So, it leaves me questioning whether the team is rebuilding yet again, if previous pieces like Cisco, Hawes, JT, etc even fit with what a Tyreke future represents, and how an organization can continually lie to its fanbase while expecting to get an arena deal done. The Kings keep breeding bad blood by not being upfront. They're failing on the court to convince fans of an intention to win and failing off the court in convincing the fans to trust them. They are living off of past good will.

What happened is not rocket science, although the front office's steadfast pursuit of its new course has been borderline shocking even to those of us who have been calling for it for years.

We absolutely 100% changed course. Went a whole new direction. Out with the old and all that. That's not hard to see. Its a whole new era, and its almost as if we have a whole new braintrust. We are aquiring players for a completely different skillset than we were just 24 months ago. The front office said it wanted to add toughness, and it has been remarkably single-minded and consitent about doing so. I'm not sure if you could accurately say that bringing in Noc was the beginning of it, but certianly by draft night we were 100% on a toughness kick. Since that time our acquisitions:

*Noc -- tough
*Reke -- tough, defense
*Casspi -- tough
*Brockman -- tough, rebounder
*May -- wuss
Sergio -- wuss
Mason -- eh, defense, or we thought
*Udoka -- tough, defense
Armstrong -- eh, defense, in theory
*Landry -- tough as nails
*Dorsey -- tough, rebounder
*McGuire -- tough, defense
Hughes -- doesn't count, but defense

* still with team

you add in Donte coming back with a dramatically tougher attitude, and Cisco, who despite the drama queen stuff is a heck of a scrappy guy, and we have quickly assembled almost a complete 12 man roster of guys who all have real toughness about them. It was deliberate, and it was FAST. JT even wants to be tough, but just can't figure out how. The last of the softies with contract running beyond this year are Beno and Hawes. An endangered species. This hasn't been a mysterious process, or a gradual one. Its been sudden and quite obviously deliberate. And I should add, incredibly welcome. New ballgame, and already startng to pay divdends.

 

[ReinadelosReys]

*Noc -- tough
*Reke -- tough, defense
*Casspi -- tough
*Brockman -- tough, rebounder
*May -- wuss
Sergio -- wuss
Mason -- eh, defense, or we thought
*Udoka -- tough, defense
Armstrong -- eh, defense, in theory
*Landry -- tough as nails
*Dorsey -- tough, rebounder
*McGuire -- tough, defense
Hughes -- doesn't count, but defense

Its really hard to equate anyone who wears a Kings uniform with the word defense when the team gives up 106 points per game.

 

[Bricklayer]

Its really hard to equate anyone who wears a Kings uniform with the word defense when the team gives up 106 points per game.

That remains an oddity. One certianly partially explainable by the one glaring failure thus far -- getting a big guy to protect the rim. Partially expalinable by pure youth. But still an oddity. Lots of guys want to try. And several of them (Reke, Donte) look like they could be some of the best at their positions in future years. But its just not there yet, and its a bit puzzling.

With the whole crew together and the distractions over, be interesting to see if we improve on that down the stretch.

 

[Sptsjunkie]

That remains an oddity. One certianly partially explainable by the one glaring failure thus far -- getting a big guy to protect the rim. Partially expalinable by pure youth. But still an oddity. Lots of guys want to try. And several of them (Reke, Donte) look like they could be some of the best at their positions in future years. But its just not there yet, and its a bit puzzling.

With the whole crew together and the distractions over, be interesting to see if we improve on that down the stretch.

And a second factor, that the majority of the players getting big minutes on our team are 23 and younger. NBA D is usually one of the last concepts young players learn. That's why a lot of young players have trouble getting minutes on veteran teams. We have an all youngster team, makes D that much tougher.

It should come though.

 

[fnordius]

Man did I take a lot of **** over making those same points for the past few months.

Hey, some of us were defending that position by June. Like piksi, 4 minutes after the draft...

What will happen with K Martin now ?