Up-tempo worked for us tonight

That, I think is the biggest thing. Malone seems to have had the support of the stars wherever he has been. We still haven't heard any players say anything bad about him. Or I missed it.

That I actually think is the most important thing for a coach, and especially with a star like demarcus the trust takes time. That's why this reset is so discouraging to me. He had Rudy and Demarcus on his side. And they rewarded him with career best numbers. It's actually the key to any leader of a team in any setting. Get the "talent" to support what you're doing, and that's more than half the job. Not everyone is going to love everything the leader does, but if the star supports the leader, things don't fall apart.

They need to have been damn sure Ty Corbin had the respect of the stars. The effort and play recently says no and they're just biding their time until the "real" coach is hired.
I think I saw somewhere that the Kings players call Corbin "substitute teacher".
 
sure. it's also what smart franchises do when they have a top-5 player in the entire league.
I'm not sure cuz is a top 5 player yet, but if he's is then a top 5 player will get his and dominate in whatever system.
 
I'm not sure cuz is a top 5 player yet, but if he's is then a top 5 player will get his and dominate in whatever system.

A case could be made for top 5, but to be safe I'd put him top 7, especially with the system change. But prior to his bout with meningitis, Cousins and Davis were early MVP candidates.
 
You can't base your whole system around one player. That's what desperate franchises do.

Really? Because I recall the Houston Rockets winning back to back championships doing exactly that with Hakeem Olojuwon.

And there's a difference between "basing your whole system around one player" and catering to the strength of your team. Cousins, Thompson, Gay, Landry, Stauskas, McCallum, Evans - do any of those guys have a game that screams "we'll run you out of the gym"? Even McLemore, for all his athleticism struggles in the open court due to his ballhandling and decision making not being where they need to be and performs better with a more structured offense.
 
I'm not sure cuz is a top 5 player yet, but if he's is then a top 5 player will get his and dominate in whatever system.

well, last time i checked, demarcus cousins is "dominating" and "getting his" from within the kings' new "system," but the team has suffered since the firing of mike malone, particularly on the defensive end. perhaps, then, there is a measurable difference in the win/loss column when you tailor a "system" to a top-5 player so that it best fits his talent and physical ability...
 
I'm not sure cuz is a top 5 player yet, but if he's is then a top 5 player will get his and dominate in whatever system.

Not really. A huge part of coaching is putting your players in a position to succeed. Not a top 5 player but look at Pau Gasol under D'Antoni. It was a disaster and a horrible misuse of a player.

Boogie is talented enough to put up numbers in almost any system sure, but why on earth would you wear out your best player, go-to scorer AND defensive anchor by making him run a lot more instead of slowing the pace and playing a game more suited to his strengths?

The notion of "we're going to run the system we want regardless of whether its the best use of our roster and best players" seems exceptionally dumb to me.
 
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The problem is not UP-tempo vs Slow down-grind it out.

The problem IS Out of Control - Get up as many shots as possible -vs- controlled Up-tempo.

When the Kings push the pace and play under control they win. When they run all over, just jacking up shots, they are horrible.

THE SOLUTION FOR ALL OF THIS IS TO ALLOW CORBIN TO PLAY AN UP-TEMPO CONTROLLED PACE, like in the Cavs and OKC games.

INSTEAD OF THE ALL OUT BLITZ ON THE BASKET THAT THE F.O. SEEMS TO WANT.

If there is a compromise, their can be SUCCESS.
 
The problem is not UP-tempo vs Slow down-grind it out.

The problem IS Out of Control - Get up as many shots as possible -vs- controlled Up-tempo.

When the Kings push the pace and play under control they win. When they run all over, just jacking up shots, they are horrible.

THE SOLUTION FOR ALL OF THIS IS TO ALLOW CORBIN TO PLAY AN UP-TEMPO CONTROLLED PACE, like in the Cavs and OKC games.

INSTEAD OF THE ALL OUT BLITZ ON THE BASKET THAT THE F.O. SEEMS TO WANT.

If there is a compromise, their can be SUCCESS.

For what it's worth the Kings played at a very slow statistical pace last night. Obviously it's just one game, but last night the Kings played at a pace slower the Miami Heat's season average - which is the lowest pace in the league this season. Every team should look to push in transition when the opportunity is there - it's potentially an easy way to get points before the defense is set. And every team should look to get the ball up the floor quickly to initiate their offense. I wouldn't argue against either of those points. But there is nothing about this Kings roster that makes me think they are fundamentally an up and down team.
 
You can't base your whole system around one player. That's what desperate franchises do.
Ya:
Chicago with Jordan
Spurs with Duncan
Mavs with Dirk
Hou with Hakeem
Orl with Shaq
NY with Ewing
Minn with KG
Pho with Barkley, later Nash
Memphis currently with Gasol
Lebron, wherever he is at any time
Miami with Wade leading up to 06
and us of course with Webber

were or are teams all built around a franchise player, the foundation for their teams. Desperate? I'd say smart. Outside Detriot's one-off championship, there really hasn't been a great team not built around a franchise talent in decades, although there was a team like Utah built around two players and their entire system was based off Stockton's ability to run the P&R with Malone. No Stockton and that whole thing falls apart. And don't mistake surrounding a franchise player with fitting talent, like we had with Peja and Bibby as not building the system around that franchise player.

Running up and down like a chicken with its head cut off are what teams do when a) they don't have a franchise player and attempt to make up for a lack of talent or b) are trying to ruin their franchise player through gross negligence, as aside from a handful of exceptions at PG like Nash, who of course has won nothing. I guarantee he'd trade one of his MVPs for a ring. And you're probably thinking, hey, GS does it!, it can work, yet of course their best player is Steph, a PG and our best player is Cuz, a 270lb center who dominates in the half court.

When you have a dominant big, whether Hakeem, Ewing, Malone, Barkley, KG, Shaq, Duncan, Dirk, Webber, or Cuz, your success is built around what you can do in the half court and you sure as **** build your system around that player. None of the teams built around those players won with such nonsense as "pace". They'd give the rock to their star in the halfcourt and let him beat the opponent's ass 1v1 until the defense forced the role players to step up, or the top wing threat, like Penny, Manu, Kobe, Pierce, etc. Half court baby, based around your top player is what wins.
 
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For what it's worth the Kings played at a very slow statistical pace last night. Obviously it's just one game, but last night the Kings played at a pace slower the Miami Heat's season average - which is the lowest pace in the league this season. Every team should look to push in transition when the opportunity is there - it's potentially an easy way to get points before the defense is set. And every team should look to get the ball up the floor quickly to initiate their offense. I wouldn't argue against either of those points. But there is nothing about this Kings roster that makes me think they are fundamentally an up and down team.
I would also add that with a season low 4 turn overs the slower pace we played with instantly solved one of the problems plaguing us all season.
 
I would also add that with a season low 4 turn overs the slower pace we played with instantly solved one of the problems plaguing us all season.

Absolutely. I'm glad you mentioned that. If the Kings can increase assists and cut down on turnovers they'll win quite a few more games. And last night I thought there were some really nice examples of ball movement.
 
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