Tyreke Evans in All-Star Game? (Chris Paul Out 1-2 months + Roy Hurt?)

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Chris Paul needs surgery and could be out for 1-2 months. Brandon Boy has missed the last 6 games. Chris Paul is definitely going to get replaced and Roy might if the Roy or the Blazers want to play it safe. With that said, Reke has a bruised hip himself, but if Reke can somehow get in, it'd be a huge accomplish for him. I'd imagine Billups is the only guy standing in Reke's way.

Too bad Kings had to blew it so Reke couldn't get more exposure.
 
xrzn said:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...slug=ys-paulsurgery013110&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Chris Paul needs surgery and could be out for 1-2 months. Brandon Boy has missed the last 6 games. Chris Paul is definitely going to get replaced and Roy might if the Roy or the Blazers want to play it safe. With that said, Reke has a bruised hip himself, but if Reke can somehow get in, it'd be a huge accomplish for him. I'd imagine Billups is the only guy standing in Reke's way.

Too bad Kings had to blew it so Reke couldn't get more exposure.
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That would be cool.

But the unfortunate thing with the recent losing streak (one of them ;)) is that it may have dropped Reke back into competition with Ellis if a spot opens up. While we were hovering just sub .500 Reke had a great argument to go instead of Monta-- namely my stats ain't menaingless. Now, after the death spiral, it could become more of a competition, and Ellis is both more established and has the gaudier numbers in Nellie's run n chuck.
 
Bricklayer said:
That would be cool.

But the unfortunate thing with the recent losing streak (one of them ;)) is that it may have dropped Reke back into competition with Ellis if a spot opens up. While we were hovering just sub .500 Reke had a great argument to go instead of Monta-- namely my stats ain't menaingless. Now, after the death spiral, it could become more of a competition, and Ellis is both more established and has the gaudier numbers in Nellie's run n chuck.
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And this is before we even consider that Billups is probably the next in line for the All-Star game if either of Paul and Roy sit out.
 
I wonder if this means the hornets would be more likely to trade Meka for K9. I'd do that deal every day and twice on sundays, that deal alone would've saved us 5-10 games this year because of interior D and boards.
 
BMiller52 said:
I wonder if this means the hornets would be more likely to trade Meka for K9. I'd do that deal every day and twice on sundays, that deal alone would've saved us 5-10 games this year because of interior D and boards.
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I don't think so!

The idea with that trade was to cut salaries and get the hornets under the luxury tax treshold.

Since them the Hornets have traded, Armstrong and D Brown and Bobby Brown to get under the luxury tax so I think at this moment, hornets laugh at us for that offer.

We might be able to do something with Thomas and something for Chandler. I do believe that the team will revisit the "2010 FA Plans" and postpone that for the summer of 2011 by which time the new CBA will be in place and player salaries will come down. Given that what the owners want in the new CBA, I can't see Maloofs going all out and splashing money on a FA class when a max type deal will be smaller in summer of 2011.
 
BMiller52 said:
I wonder if this means the hornets would be more likely to trade Meka for K9. I'd do that deal every day and twice on sundays, that deal alone would've saved us 5-10 games this year because of interior D and boards.
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I had that same thought, but agree that the problem is that the Horents are not as desperate as tehy were. Ironically we helped them to become less so for the hoor of having Hilton Armstrong on our practice squad.
 
paul and roy missing the all-star game would open up a spot for someone like billups and hopefully kaman. maybe ellis i suppose...
 
AriesMar27 said:
paul and roy missing the all-star game would open up a spot for someone like billups and hopefully kaman. maybe ellis i suppose...
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This is a warning. The above post was intentionally made in ill spirit. Essentially it was trolling. You omitted one name, the very name the thread was about, on purpose to elicit a reaction. We aren't going to let that stuff slide any longer. It serves no purpose but to stir the pot. So just check yourself.
 
Bricklayer said:
This is a warning. The above post was intentionally made in ill spirit. Essentially it was trolling. You omitted one name, the very name the thread was about, on purpose to elicit a reaction. We aren't going to let that stuff slide any longer. It serves no purpose but to stir the pot. So just check yourself.
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Yet, you "stir the pot" whenever there is a Martin thread...

Mod or not, trolling is trolling. A spades a spade...gotta call it...
 
though i think it would be great to have evans make the allstar team, i think one of the biggest snubs this year was kaman. if a guard or 2 does not make the game, would they have to replace them with another guard or would kaman be let in?
 
Jaylee209 said:
Yet, you "stir the pot" whenever there is a Martin thread...

Mod or not, trolling is trolling. A spades a spade...gotta call it...
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But, and this is a big but, he actually posts information that backs his thoughts up and has intelligent, well-articulated opinions. ("Evans iz teh FAIL!" doesn't count as intelligent or articulated, for those keeping score at home.) I don't always agree with what he says but I respect what he has to say whereas with some other posters, there's a general air of saying something to get a reaction (hence the term troll).

Anyways, back on topic, 'twould be nice to see a King in the All-Star Game.
 
Jaylee209 said:
Yet, you "stir the pot" whenever there is a Martin thread...

Mod or not, trolling is trolling. A spades a spade...gotta call it...
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Dang, you caught me. :rolleyes:

I always log on and wonder...to troll, or not to troll, that is the question. Sometimes I like to troll a little just to give me something to clean up as a mod. The self bans are tricky though. Well, the bans are easy. But reinstating yourself after you just banned yourself requires some cleverness.
 
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I dunno if this is stirring the pot, but I think Billups, and Kaman deserve the spot over Evans too. It's VERY rare they let in a rookie unless he got a ton of votes and is selected as the starter.. I am thinking Yao Ming. Not sure if he was starter his rookie year or second year. But never the less, Evans does not deserve it over Billups, and Kaman.
 
Bricklayer said:
Dang, you caught me. :rolleyes:

I always log on and wonder...to troll, or not to troll, that is the question. Sometimes I like to troll a little just to give me something to clean up as a mod. The self bans are tricky though. Well, the bans are easy. But reinstating yourself after you just banned yourself requires some cleverness.
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Personally, I think Jeremy is missing a bet by not allowing moderators to ban each other. Imagine the fun we could have.

:p
 
Jaylee209 said:
I think you were way out of line suggesting he was trolling by that comment -- and If you think I'm in cahoots with Ares, then you're mistaken -- I actually really dislike the guy...but, since he's an obvious "Evans basher" -- much like how you're an "obvious "Martin Basher" --you feel like every post by him is some slight indictment on Tyreke, or something...a bit sensitive of you, I think.

I agree with the other poster, Kaman, Billups and even Ellis deserve a sport over Tyreke -- and I really, really like Tyreke.
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But if you'e going by position, I think 'Reke has a fair shot of getting in. Replacing Paul and/or Roy with a big like Kaman wouldn't really be in the best interest of depth.
 
Don't think it will happen. Unfortunately. Billups, then Ellis. And yes, Kaman was the biggest snub in recent memory. There is no reason Pau deserves to go over Kaman. Thats just Laker love rearing its ugly yellow head.
 
Bricklayer said:
This is a warning. The above post was intentionally made in ill spirit. Essentially it was trolling. You omitted one name, the very name the thread was about, on purpose to elicit a reaction. We aren't going to let that stuff slide any longer. It serves no purpose but to stir the pot. So just check yourself.
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How is that trolling? If two spots open up, most unbiased 'pundits' felt that Billups and Kaman were the two biggest snubs, thus the most likely to fill two openings. I think Tyreke is a definitely a dark horse with monta, but I'd have to say that Chauncey and Kaman are the most likely to fill those two roster spaces.
 
Kingsguy881 said:
Lol.
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Most in depth post thus far. Congrats.

"Context," in it's manner that was just used sounds a whole lot like placing intent upon a post that in and of itself shows no intent on what a lot of you are suggesting. It lacks discussion and furthering of a point, but the actual point, if people follow the NBA, is mired in a lot of logic and at worst, regurgitating of opinions spewed from those who follow the NBA much more than we can (on account of it being their jobs and all).
 
Smills91 said:
How is that trolling? If two spots open up, most unbiased 'pundits' felt that Billups and Kaman were the two biggest snubs, thus the most likely to fill two openings. I think Tyreke is a definitely a dark horse with monta, but I'd have to say that Chauncey and Kaman are the most likely to fill those two roster spaces.
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And see, that's not trolling.

People are confusing content with style. Some of them intentionally. I don't really give a **** whether you think Billups or Kaman are more likely to get in. I think Billups and Kaman are more likely to get in (now ask me whether I think that they are more deserving).

I care a great deal about dismissive posts designed specifically to elicit a response after months of ridiculous pissing contrests over the same issue.
 
I dunno if that's me or not.. While I like Evans (after the initial pissy mood I was in because I wanted a PG) I still think he's not a PG.. Anyhow, back on topic there are others more deserving.. Evans will get his All-Star time in a year or two. Then it will be a yearly deal with him in the game so no biggie.
 
It's funny how brick thought that I was trying to cause an issue with my post. Some people just see what they want to see. Let's be honest with ourselves, how can you honestly say that Evans should be the replacement for Paul and Roy? He's scored well but he's th starting pg for a team that won 2 games in the month of January. Billups is the starting pg of the 2nd best team in the conference, kaman is putting up career numbers with griffin out.

Evans may have his day as an all star but how could anyone say that he deserves it over billups, kaman or Ellis? Even if it's just guards, baron davis should get more consideration than someone like Evans... He's a rookie, with the exception of Yao who was voted in to the all sar game who else made it as a rookie? Lebron and Wade couldn't do it, hell; Carmelo and Wade lead their teams to the playoffs as rookies and they didn't get in. Patience people, damn....

What makes it worse is that you are a moderator. I would think you'd be able to tell the difference.
 
But if Roy and Paul are both out, that leaves the All-Star roster down two guards not two big men. Kaman deserves a spot over Pau Gasol, but that obviously didn't happen. Billups, Ellis, and Evans are really the top three candidates to get those spots. Denver already has one All-Star so that counts against Billups, but everything else seems to work in his favor: former All-Star, #2 team in the west, currently riding a hot streak.

When you put Ellis' numbers in context with the number of minutes he's playing it's not as impressive. Reke would be beating him in every category except 3-point%. Plus the Warriors are still worse than the Kings this year even after the recent nose-dive. If Ellis gets in it's only because Evans is getting the rookie treatment (you're already playing in the rookie game, what more do you want kid?). Maybe with two point guards already on the roster they give the spot to Evans to get a bigger guard in there and have another team represented. I think most likely Roy plays and Billups takes Paul's spot but you could make a strong case that Evans deserves it more. Plus which guy would the casual rather see in an All-Star game? Mr. Big Shot or the guy who made Lebron and Kobe pull out their mano-a-mano defense on critical last possessions?
 
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Ok off topic question, people say kaman should have made it over the ostrich(gasol) which I don't disagree with. But if kaman made it as the C then wouldn't the ostrich make it in as the wildcard and Randolph would have missed out? Cause wasn't Randolph the WC?
 
Yeah, randolph is really the one who stole it from kaman. He wasn't supposed to fit so well with that team. But they really won't be missing anything by adding billups and kaman, they did already add Deron Williams, now he gets more minutes. The west doesn't need to just add 2 guards, just 2 more players.
 
I hate posting on my iPhone. I can't see the entire post, my grammar is all jacked up. I should just turn off the auto spelling, it throws me off. Though it is useful while texting, where grammar isn't a priority.
 
hrdboild said:
But if Roy and Paul are both out, that leaves the All-Star roster down two guards not two big men. Kaman deserves a spot over Pau Gasol, but that obviously didn't happen. Billups, Ellis, and Evans are really the top three candidates to get those spots. Denver already has one All-Star so that counts against Billups, but everything else seems to work in his favor: former All-Star, #2 team in the west, currently riding a hot streak.

When you put Ellis' numbers in context with the number of minutes he's playing it's not as impressive. Reke would be beating him in every category except 3-point%. Plus the Warriors are still worse than the Kings this year even after the recent nose-dive. If Ellis gets in it's only because Evans is getting the rookie treatment (you're already playing in the rookie game, what more do you want kid?). Maybe with two point guards already on the roster they give the spot to Evans to get a bigger guard in there and have another team represented. I think most likely Roy plays and Billups takes Paul's spot but you could make a strong case that Evans deserves it more. Plus which guy would the casual rather see in an All-Star game? Mr. Big Shot or the guy who made Lebron and Kobe pull out their mano-a-mano defense on critical last possessions?
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The West will have at least 4 guards, and almost surely 5 -- its notorious that worthy guards miss out every year in the West. They aren't going to load up on borderline bigs just cuz.

The real issue for Reke now is just the losing, even though obviously he is maybe the last guy on the team responsible for it -- the only one either not new or still playing at his previous level. There is a strong bias in All Star game selections against guys on losing lottery type teams. When we were hovering near .500, that was good enough to overcome that bias, so then all he had to worry about was the anti-roookie bias. But now with the implosion leaving us right back down amongst the bottom teams in the league, he's got to contend with both biases -- both the one against rookies and the one against losing teams. And specifically it dumps him back in the class with Ellis, who is putting up even bigger numbers in the wacky ball system. So rather than competing against a half-washed up Billups as a guy from a winning team, now Billups has an advantage for being on a winner, AND Reke has to compete against Ellis's inflated numbers. Just takes what once was a decent longshot, and now makes it into a shot in the dark scenario where just the right players get hurt, and Reke puts on a major show in the next couple of weeks as well.
 
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