Training Camp, October 2023
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This right here.
Some people are still so identified with losing that they are explaining away the Kings being good because they can't cope with it. I hate to break it to you but this team did not finish the season as a "48 win team". We played a LONG stretch of ball at a .640 clip - and against the toughest part of our schedule. We were a "53 win team" after the ASB last year. Higher if you account for strength of schedule.
Some people are still so identified with losing that they are explaining away the Kings being good because they can't cope with it. I hate to break it to you but this team did not finish the season as a "48 win team". We played a LONG stretch of ball at a .640 clip - and against the toughest part of our schedule. We were a "53 win team" after the ASB last year. Higher if you account for strength of schedule.
that team acquired a top 10 player at the time, along with one of the greatest shooters of all time. It's very rare that you have that type of transformation in one season unless you acquire that caliber of players. Kings are growing their core within so this will take a bit longer than one or two seasons, no matter what you want to believe about the West being old, injury prone and weaker than previous seasons.
This was a joke and the context is that a certain poster is being about as negative as humanly possible by chastising our own coach for saying we should not have the mentality of competing for a championship. That's incredibly comical to me. The ridiculosity of that position warrants an equally ridiculous joke about an arbitrary measurement of credentials.
A fan saying a Coach (the best coach in the league) should not tell his team to compete for a championship - I mean... people do see the incredible humor in that right? That could be an SNL sketch!
A fan saying a Coach (the best coach in the league) should not tell his team to compete for a championship - I mean... people do see the incredible humor in that right? That could be an SNL sketch!
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It's not difficult for me to accept or entertain differing opinions.
It's difficult for me to accept your particular opinion that the reigning Coach of The Year should not say that our team needs to compete for a championship. I completely reject it.
You do understand the difference between rejecting one particular contrary point of view vs. rejecting all differing views, yes?
It's difficult for me to accept your particular opinion that the reigning Coach of The Year should not say that our team needs to compete for a championship. I completely reject it.
You do understand the difference between rejecting one particular contrary point of view vs. rejecting all differing views, yes?
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Not to mention our home court.. If we won at home like Memphis did then we would have almost been a 60 win team (58-24). We had the SECOND best road record in the NBA (by one game), and THE BEST road record in the west. These people that are hung up on us always losing can't admit this team is pretty damn good. This team had a better turnaround than the early 2000s team. We were title contenders last year whether they like it or not. We were a HB made 3pt shot from getting to whoop on the Lakers in the 2nd round, and fighting Denver for a chance to play for a title.
We will improve this year, and if for some reason we do not improve then we will be in the playoffs and again play for a title.
Yeah, and that's fine and all, but you're basically telling them not to shoot for the stars because of the moon.
If they go into this season, after shocking the whole basketball world, not shooting for the stars because they only reached the moon, what message does that send to everybody associated with this team?
I'll tell you what message it sends. It sends the message that we just aren't good enough to even have the conversation. It tells them not to shoot for the ultimate goal. It tells them to not believe in themselves because they just aren't good enough.
That above message is one a crap coach teaches. I'll tell you one thing about Coach Brown, whether he believes it or not, he knows he isn't going to get the best version of Fox if he doesn't pump him up as an MVP candidate. He knows he isn't going to get the best version of Malik if he doesn't promote him as a 6MOY candidate. He knows he isn't going to get the best version of Keegan if he doesn't promote him as a 3 level scorer and defensive stalwart at his position. And so on down the line. Turn the ****ing jets on!!!!
Brown plays the ultimate mind game with his players, but it's an "achieve the best version of yourself" mind game. I would rather have a coach who knows how to get the most out of his players like Brown is doing, rather than the one such as you are suggesting, who tells them to temper their expectations and "only be as good as such and such expectation".
Brown pumps his players up. Give me that coach (with the obvious results hey Mr COY)) than the coach you are advocating for.
Your mentality is a loser mentality.
If they go into this season, after shocking the whole basketball world, not shooting for the stars because they only reached the moon, what message does that send to everybody associated with this team?
I'll tell you what message it sends. It sends the message that we just aren't good enough to even have the conversation. It tells them not to shoot for the ultimate goal. It tells them to not believe in themselves because they just aren't good enough.
That above message is one a crap coach teaches. I'll tell you one thing about Coach Brown, whether he believes it or not, he knows he isn't going to get the best version of Fox if he doesn't pump him up as an MVP candidate. He knows he isn't going to get the best version of Malik if he doesn't promote him as a 6MOY candidate. He knows he isn't going to get the best version of Keegan if he doesn't promote him as a 3 level scorer and defensive stalwart at his position. And so on down the line. Turn the ****ing jets on!!!!
Brown plays the ultimate mind game with his players, but it's an "achieve the best version of yourself" mind game. I would rather have a coach who knows how to get the most out of his players like Brown is doing, rather than the one such as you are suggesting, who tells them to temper their expectations and "only be as good as such and such expectation".
Brown pumps his players up. Give me that coach (with the obvious results hey Mr COY)) than the coach you are advocating for.
Your mentality is a loser mentality.
every year, almost every Playoff team has championship aspirations. It's a good motivator for players, fans get riled up and get butts in the seats if the product is fun to watch, which it is. When you go out and have one winning season and then do a 360 and label yourself championship material, that has delusional written all over it but then again, these players are young, their brains are still developing and so it's one of those "in the situation" type of scenarios as far as I observe. Perhaps I'm wrong and they believe it to be true which can be extra juice, reality will tell us otherwise though, it's only a matter of time before we can resurrect this thread in May and look back to see who had an appropriate point of view on the matter without getting too high off of the beam.
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