[NBA] Trade Deadline Season 2026 Open Thread

ESP47 said:
I don't think anyone thinks he's bad, it's just the contract he's on is pretty hefty.

I think he's a league average starting PG, which means he'd probably be the best player on our team. His contract looks bad now but it wont have quite the same cap hit in a couple of years.

I'd try and get an extra pick out of them for the deal.
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Wonder if a DDR for IQ+pick type of framework is interesting?

They get a TOR legend back, that can help with their playoff push this season while cleaning his money out next year if they want. Kings build up draft capital and honestly a pretty great gap PG to start, no matter what their rebuild looks like over the next few seasons.
 
pdxKingsFan said:
Poeltl to me is a non-starter. 4 seasons is ridiculous.
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I think Poeltl could be a bit of a sneaky move. He's a very good offensive rebounder and at least a passable defensive anchor, and he's under contract for his age 31-34 for what tops out at about 16% of the salary cap.

If Domas is in town, Poeltl would be no good to us. But right now I think the feeling on this board is that no matter how talented Domas is, that you're not going to be able to build a franchise around a non-athletic post player as a primary offensive playmaker. If we manage to come out of this draft with a Dybantsa or a Peterson, then the rebuild obviously starts to shift around perimeter-oriented playmaking and the C spot just needs to provide the defensive anchor. Poeltl isn't the ONLY option available to do that, but he would fit the bill, and though he seems maybe a tiny bit overpaid it would be a pretty easily affordable contract for a team that's rebuilding.

And yeah, maybe he doesn't quite fit the timeline perfectly, but I think we'd hope that this isn't a 5-year rebuild, and even if it is, the kids need to learn to play with an actual C and not some stop-gap crap.
 
The_Jamal said:
Am i dumb? Has he really been that bad?

I'd gladly take his extra year on the books for a pick for LaVine. Granted, haven't followed IQ closely this year, but he's a very good player.
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Unless something is listed wrong it's an extra 2 years and 65 million dollars. He's OK but nobody wants that contract least of all a team like the Kings.
 
Capt. Factorial said:
I think Poeltl could be a bit of a sneaky move. He's a very good offensive rebounder and at least a passable defensive anchor, and he's under contract for his age 31-34 for what tops out at about 16% of the salary cap.

If Domas is in town, Poeltl would be no good to us. But right now I think the feeling on this board is that no matter how talented Domas is, that you're not going to be able to build a franchise around a non-athletic post player as a primary offensive playmaker. If we manage to come out of this draft with a Dybantsa or a Peterson, then the rebuild obviously starts to shift around perimeter-oriented playmaking and the C spot just needs to provide the defensive anchor. Poeltl isn't the ONLY option available to do that, but he would fit the bill, and though he seems maybe a tiny bit overpaid it would be a pretty easily affordable contract for a team that's rebuilding.

And yeah, maybe he doesn't quite fit the timeline perfectly, but I think we'd hope that this isn't a 5-year rebuild, and even if it is, the kids need to learn to play with an actual C and not some stop-gap crap.
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If we had a crystal ball and could project who we wind up with its a lot easier to swallow that commitment than not knowing who we might end up with.
 
Capt. Factorial said:
I think Poeltl could be a bit of a sneaky move. He's a very good offensive rebounder and at least a passable defensive anchor, and he's under contract for his age 31-34 for what tops out at about 16% of the salary cap.

If Domas is in town, Poeltl would be no good to us. But right now I think the feeling on this board is that no matter how talented Domas is, that you're not going to be able to build a franchise around a non-athletic post player as a primary offensive playmaker. If we manage to come out of this draft with a Dybantsa or a Peterson, then the rebuild obviously starts to shift around perimeter-oriented playmaking and the C spot just needs to provide the defensive anchor. Poeltl isn't the ONLY option available to do that, but he would fit the bill, and though he seems maybe a tiny bit overpaid it would be a pretty easily affordable contract for a team that's rebuilding.

And yeah, maybe he doesn't quite fit the timeline perfectly, but I think we'd hope that this isn't a 5-year rebuild, and even if it is, the kids need to learn to play with an actual C and not some stop-gap crap.
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Poeltl is not only a passable defensive anchor, he's a damn good one. Hyper efficient in his limited touches, excellent big man passer (14% AST rate the last 5 years) and just knows and understands his role. Been a fan for a long time, he's good.

And the Kings have to pay somebody, even in a rebuild. Depending on if the sweetner is good enough, IQ and Poeltl are two pretty good players that can help young guys get better and play competitive basketball.

Like I said previously, would need to start at 2 FRP and Collin-Murray if Domas is the piece they want. But I don't hate the framework
 
Capt. Factorial said:
I think Poeltl could be a bit of a sneaky move. He's a very good offensive rebounder and at least a passable defensive anchor, and he's under contract for his age 31-34 for what tops out at about 16% of the salary cap.

If Domas is in town, Poeltl would be no good to us. But right now I think the feeling on this board is that no matter how talented Domas is, that you're not going to be able to build a franchise around a non-athletic post player as a primary offensive playmaker. If we manage to come out of this draft with a Dybantsa or a Peterson, then the rebuild obviously starts to shift around perimeter-oriented playmaking and the C spot just needs to provide the defensive anchor. Poeltl isn't the ONLY option available to do that, but he would fit the bill, and though he seems maybe a tiny bit overpaid it would be a pretty easily affordable contract for a team that's rebuilding.

And yeah, maybe he doesn't quite fit the timeline perfectly, but I think we'd hope that this isn't a 5-year rebuild, and even if it is, the kids need to learn to play with an actual C and not some stop-gap crap.
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He’s also had lingering back issues and could be rested in good faith to preserve the tank, if you’re into that sort of thing, and give Max plenty of run.
 
The_Jamal said:
God I hate the Warriors. I want them to fail more than the Lakers at this point.

They've punted the last 3 seasons worried about the post-Steph timeline when they pretty easily had the assets to make a real run at another title. Jabronis, all of them
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They’ve clearly mishandled roster management overall. Outside of Podziemski, they’ve whiffed on most, if not all, of their first-round draft picks. The last first-rounders who actually turned into successful NBA players were Poole (who has since been traded across the country multiple times), Looney (a solid but limited rotation player), and Harrison Barnes.

The word is that Lacob was the driving force behind drafting Kuminga and still believes in him, which is understandable for a 23-year-old wing, and that belief is essentially why Kuminga is still on the roster now.
 
Warhawk said:
But to me it's like trading a great older Corvette you are making payments on (that should be good for years yet) for:
  • a Yugo heading to the junkyard,
  • a 5-year-old Toyota Camry you'll be making payments on, and
  • a 1 in 30 chance of getting a new Corvette at a discounted price for the first 4 years.
Do you take that bet? I want a better chance of getting something good in return. If we do this, and don't get the new Corvette, then what?
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The analogy is vague and obfuscatory. Why do you need a sports analogy to explain a simple sports reality?

Or is the premise of the analogy that you're starting up a car museum? We don't get to keep the players after their contracts are up. Domas is gone in 2 years if we continue to do nothing.

My original point, was that the conditions by which Domas is an 'all-star' player, don't exist with this team any more. He's not a useless player, but he's useless to us.
 
Insomniacal Fan said:
The analogy is vague and obfuscatory. Why do you need a sports analogy to explain a simple sports reality?

Or is the premise of the analogy that you're starting up a car museum? We don't get to keep the players after their contracts are up. Domas is gone in 2 years if we continue to do nothing.

My original point, was that the conditions by which Domas is an 'all-star' player, don't exist with this team any more. He's not a useless player, but he's useless to us.
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Then you have 2 years to do something. And one of those possible somethings is build a team that makes sense and start winning again. You know, like we did a few years ago. We don't have to dump him for one unkown FRP. And he will likely be worth more in trade as a 1-year (ending) deal than a two-year deal considering everyone is complaining about his contract.

The second bolded statement is patently false.
 
Warhawk said:
Then you have 2 years to do something. And one of those possible somethings is build a team that makes sense and start winning again. You know, like we did a few years ago. We don't have to dump him for one unkown FRP. And he will likely be worth more in trade as a 1-year (ending) deal than a two-year deal considering everyone is complaining about his contract.

The second bolded statement is patently false.
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Well, I'd say Domas is pretty useless to the Kings in their current configuration. He works best as a hub through which a motion offense curls and bends the defense until it breaks. But with so many ball stoppers and improvisers currently on the roster, as well as no real offensive system to speak of, Domas just can't impact the game in the ways he ordinarily would. He's limited defensively, and when stripped of the opportunity to use his premium skill sets, he's only going to get so far on offense with the bully ball stuff.

That said, there's a world in which I can imagine Sabonis as a hub for a younger, livelier Kings roster with a more inventive offense, after the majority of the ball stopping veterans are shipped out. I've said before that I don't hate the idea of holding onto Domas if the offensive context makes some kind of sense. I just question whether or not that gets you where you want to go as a franchise in the long-term, especially since Domas is actually one of the Kings' vanishingly few trade pieces that actually possesses value.
 
iowamcnabb said:
Vecenie suggested Ja to the Raps for IQ and a first. That makes total sense and should be the deal. Raps raise their ceiling and the Grizz get out of the Morant business
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Nobody should be giving up a first for Ja Morant at this juncture. He's a massively distressed asset. His athleticism looks shot. His true shooting percentage is in the tank. His contract is unseemly for the production. It may be that he gets healthier and more explosive again, and it may be that he someday finds his way back to a superstar trajectory, but he's not even a top-50 player in the NBA right now. Throw in the off-court issues, and it's just hard to see how the Grizzlies convince anybody to part with a first round draft pick. It might be that Memphis has to attach a first just to dump Ja!
 
Padrino said:
Nobody should be giving up a first for Ja Morant at this juncture. He's a massively distressed asset. His athleticism looks shot. His true shooting percentage is in the tank. His contract is unseemly for the production. It may be that he gets healthier and more explosive again, and it may be that he someday finds his way back to a superstar trajectory, but he's not even a top-50 player in the NBA right now. Throw in the off-court issues, and it's just hard to see how the Grizzlies convince anybody to part with a first round draft pick. It might be that Memphis has to attach a first just to dump him
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Ja is on a short term deal and the Grizz are willing to eat IQ’s bad long term contract. Getting off bad money AND getting an upside swing is definitely worth a first for a team like Toronto.
 
I think Toronto would be a pretty good place for Ja. Depending on the pick and if they really want off Quickley that bad (it seems they really do?) I don't think it is the worst. At least the guy isn't going to pull a piece out after a home game. Probably none of his crew are going to move to Canada either, because they probably can't even cross the border. Actually maybe if there's an issue here it might be getting Ja a work permit?
 
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