Suns trade for Bradley Beal
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Good thing they have [checks notes] pick #52 in this year's draft. That'll help fill out that roster.
Tetsujin
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No doubt they will take whoever this forum wanted at 54 and ruin a bunch of people’s weeks for some reason
This is financially crushing. No MLE, no BAE, can't take a penny over in any trade.
The details aren't clear, but it sounds as if exceeding the second apron in any two years out of a four-year period results in your first round draft pick being dropped to the bottom of the first round - which would mean that their '25, '26, '27, and '28 picks would be #30, assuming nobody else breaks that rule. Yet, they already owe '25, '27, and a swap on '28. (This could make for interesting scenarios, as suddenly Brooklyn's Durant return suuuuucks if this rule is as reported.) You've gotta assume they're sending out '24 and '26 swaps along with many of their seconds remaining...
Edit: Bobby Marks addressed this further, and the rule is not how I had interpreted it from an earlier, vague tweet. Will address below.
This team is going to be five guys and 10 minimum contracts for the foreseeable future. Wonder how that's going to turn out?
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This is the type of team that will attract vets who will take minimum deals to chase a ring. If Phoenix is smart, they'll be able to put together a solid enough bench to be a real contender. But they'll likely have to repeat the exercise each offseason for the next 3 or 4 years since few guys will sign up for minimum deals more than a year or two in a row at the end of their NBA careers.
And that really will be the key. Payne/Beal/Booker/Durant/Ayton is a potentially an offensive powerhouse but with undersized, especially 1-3 with Book out of position and Beal a smallish SG. There's not a ton of lineup flexibility or defense there. If they run into a bad matchup (and I can think of a few) they'll need at least a couple viable bench options.
But more than anything, this all hinges on KD staying healthy. He's the real key to making things work. If he goes down again I think you have a very expensive price tag for a first round exit. Especially since the type of vets I think they'll attract will also skew older and more likely to be injury prone themselves.
serbiangoat
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They cucked Miami again
ESPN is going to rank us last in our division again pre-season aren't they? It's four super teams and us in the Pacific. Should be an interesting season seeing how this all shakes out. I'm just glad the Suns are out now on Anunoby as he would have been a perfect fit for them.
Dwight Howard, COME ON DOWN! You're the next contestant on The Price Is All We're Allowed To Pay!
iowamcnabb
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The next move is to ship Ayton out for Dinwiddie and Claxton
SacTownKid
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And the dominoes really start to fall. Suns just built a superteam potentially. And now is Paul going to join LeBron?
SacTownKid
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And they'll probably get them too. Suns went all in, and didn't finish anything half way. Have to give them credit. And now the pain. Hate to hope for individual failure when a franchise goes for it this hard but that's about what we got here. Monte tried and that's all you can do. Now the pressure is really on him. Times ticking to jump up more towards the big boys.
SacTownKid
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The other question is now it's basically known Monte was trying to upgrade that SG spot and likely lose Barnes in the process to do it. Huerter and Barnes did indeed get a message now for sure.
Probably.
And in some ways justifiably. The Kings had a good season, but they won the Pacific largely based on both improved play AND pretty remarkable team health. Domas playing with an avulsion fracture (and Fox breaking his finger in the playoffs) notwithstanding, they were surprisingly injury free.
If they can repeat that feat, I think they can have a similarly good season next year too, but that's easier said than done.
But the preseason rankings for the Pacific next season will be littered with the comment, "If they can stay healthy".
- LeBron will turn 39 next season and AD always struggles to stay healthy.
- It's hard for the Clippers to count on Kawhi OR Paul George at this point.
- Since tearing his achilles and missing a whole season, KD has played in 35, 55, and 47 games and will turn 35 before the season starts. Beal has played in 57, 60, 40, and 50 games the last four seasons. Some of that can be chalked up to resting him in lost seasons, but not all of it. Not to mention Ayton and Booker have missed 15-20 games the last three seasons or so.
- Steph is already 35, and while Klay is only 33, he had two horrific injuries and is more likely to decline than regain any more of his past form.
I could buy any one of those teams potentially being a title contender as easily as I could see them as a first round exit or even missing the playoffs due to injuries.
The Kings will need to both stay healthy AND improve the roster to repeat as division champs.
Rumors are just that. Considering what the Wizards accepted, I don't think there was ever a serious offer from the Kings, especially since a package of Huerter and Holmes is $19 million short of matching salary. Even throwing in Davion (which I absolutely wouldn't do to get Beal on that contract) means the Kings would have to take on $14M extra in salary which would absolutely hamstring their ability to fill out the roster.
I honestly would rather run back essentially the same roster plus Vezenkov and any draft picks that make the roster vs taking on Beal's contract.
KainLear
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You should always automatically expect the Kings to not be respected in the national media realm and be surprised when they do.
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KainLear
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Can Carmelo un-retired?
KainLear
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Honestly, Kings' name was folded in only as bargaining chips as always. Especially considering...
SacTownKid
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Nah, considering the source, it's basically official. Monte went for it. Had an offer out there regardless of whatever it was. Beal chose KD. Now hopefully he regrets it. lol.
SacTownKid
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I read it's likely Paul and filler. If so, yeah, now they probably don't even need Ayton. They can just drip in more 3 and D guys around that core 3 and a big or two to do the dirty work.
miltonap
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Well play better then.
If they were better he wouldn't be looking to upgrade them.
Be accountable for your play
SacTownKid
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Well, that's fine but one is a FA so unless Barnes was kept aware of this by Monte he might take that to heart. Harrison's a pro, but he's shown a little bit of a sensitive side at times like when that KD stuff with the Warriors went down. Now watch him sign with the Suns for the minimum hahaha.
miltonap
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If anything maybe it could calm his ego down and allow him to accept less money.
In the case of Huerter hopefully motivate him to play better
SacTownKid
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I don't think Barnes has an ego per se and there seems to be some loyalty. That last deal he signed with the Kings was pretty fair. It's just now even getting Beal most likely meant he was going bye bye to make the dollars work unless there was a wink wink, sign back cheap for a season to make a deal viable like Harden did with the Sixers so they could get Tucker.
miltonap
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If Barnes doesn't have an ego hopefully he can accept less pay then and maybe accept a bench role.
Because I think that's actually fair for what he brings
SacTownKid
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Even I don't think he'd accept a bench role. I mean that depends on where he thinks he's at in his career and what teams are interested in FA. The Kings might actually get a decent sign and trade package if someone like the C's are still interested. The thing about Barnes is he's the one in control since while who knows about the money he'd get he'll have absolutely no shortage of teams interested in adding him. Bet on that.
