Stojakovic @b92.net

[VF21]

Dude is a headcase on the court the league knows this,players know chris webber has a problem with pressure and so what he made one Big shot in a 11 year year career It's about time he does.The fact is he quit last night and he knows this.

The fact is you have no idea what you're talking about and yet you continue to post drivel and expect us to all buy into it.

Headcase on the court? What a crock.

He quit last night and he knows it? Yeah. I'm sure everyone in Arco and everyone who actually watched the game must be surprised.

You have - and I repeat - zero credibility. What's rather sad is I have to wonder if you actually believe the stuff you post.

 

[bdouble013]

I've been sitting here thinking how I could respond to you shaka. Nothing seemed quite right for the situation. I'm utterly flabbergasted that someone could waste that much time writting what you did.

What has the world come to.

 

[shaka zulu]

The fact is you have no idea what you're talking about and yet you continue to post drivel and expect us to all buy into it.

Headcase on the court? What a crock.

He quit last night and he knows it? Yeah. I'm sure everyone in Arco and everyone who actually watched the game must be surprised.

You have - and I repeat - zero credibility. What's rather sad is I have to wonder if you actually believe the stuff you post.

are you saying you are the validation of what's credible becausese my point of views is different.I don't think you can validate what is credible VF 21.So I dismiss your comments against my views.CHRIS WEBBER is a clear cut HEADCASE abd everyone around the league will tell you so.

 

[Elise10]

It's about time he does.The fact is he quit last night and he knows this.

I guess there's no convincing you that Chris has made several big shots over the past 3 years alone then. Including one this year that won a game for us.

It's incredibly ridiculous to base this loss on someone who was injured and left the game. Do you know if he wanted to play but the doctors told him not to(the same scenario happened to Mike a week ago)? I don't see him as a headcase.....someone who occasionally puts his foot in his mouth, yes but a long way from a headcase.

 

[shaka zulu]

I guess there's no convincing you that Chris has made several big shots over the past 3 years alone then. Including one this year that won a game for us.

It's incredibly ridiculous to base this loss on someone who was injured and left the game. Do you know if he wanted to play but the doctors told him not to(the same scenario happened to Mike a week ago)? I don't see him as a headcase.....someone who occasionally puts his foot in his mouth, yes but a long way from a headcase.

think back NCAA championship game michigan 1992 timeout call violation technical foul.Then you watch his career he has one buzzer beater and a couple ones with seconds on the clock.But like I said it's about time in 11 seasons that he do these things.But he still is a Headcase and so are alot of other people.

 

[bdouble013]

Would you say AI is clutch shaka?

 

[vj9999]

are you saying you are the validation of what's credible becausese my point of views is different.I don't think you can validate what is credible VF 21.So I dismiss your comments against my views.CHRIS WEBBER is a clear cut HEADCASE abd everyone around the league will tell you so.

By everyone around the league you refer to all the players, coaches, etc. ? Sure Chris is not perfect and injuries have slowed him down, but from my observations he is still well respected around the league. 20/10/5

 

[shaka zulu]

By everyone around the league you refer to all the players, coaches, etc. ? Sure Chris is not perfect and injuries have slowed him down, but from my observations he is still well respected around the league. 20/10/5

yeah they respect his talent level and he can be a force when he is motivated to prove a point.But it's still talk around the league when people question Chris webber's heart.But I would love to see webber think different get down dirty and get after you.He can do it but most of the times he doesn't want to do those little things and these things are not any of the above statistics.

 

[VF21]

are you saying you are the validation of what's credible becausese my point of views is different.I don't think you can validate what is credible VF 21.So I dismiss your comments against my views.CHRIS WEBBER is a clear cut HEADCASE abd everyone around the league will tell you so.

You don't have a defined point of view. You spout rhetoric and blatherings as though they were cast in stone.

I can validate whether or not someone is making comments based in fact. There is a headcase in this whole scenario, but it is not Chris Webber.

But feel free to continue. You actually amuse some of our members.

 

[bdouble013]

<<<< not one of them.

 

[VF21]

Getting away from the sideshow for a moment, and back to the topic at hand, I pointed out earlier that I think Pedja needs to quit talking to people. Just like Webber, I hope he eventually learns that the media - regardless of the language being spoken - won't always report things as actually spoken.

 

[vj9999]

yeah they respect his talent level and he can be a force when he is motivated to prove a point.But it's still talk around the league when people question Chris webber's heart.But I would love to see webber think different get down dirty and get after you.He can do it but most of the times he doesn't want to do those little things and these things are not any of the above statistics.

You know, being a Serb I have a little favoritism towards Peja, but when I think of the Kings I don't think of CWebb as a guy who wouldn't do these little things. I think of a guy who has same nationality as I do.

It doesn't matter. It's a team effort and when they all contribute in some way, we play well. Chris made some mistakes in the past, but this year he has stepped up as a leader and you got to give him some respect for that.

 

[bozzwell]

At this point, IMHO, if Pedja keeps talking to the press, he's going to alienate a lot of his fan base. And it will be a shame because again IMHO his comments are having a lot more read into them than he meant.

He is in a lose-lose situation here. Any kind of media black-out he puts on there will result in more speculation and alienation. If he keeps answering loaded questions he will get in trouble, too.

OTOH, if he starts being more consistent performer and contributes substentially in the play offs he can go off and talk about Petrie Jelly or whatever else...

 

[Heuge]

I can validate whether or not someone is making comments based in fact. There is a headcase in this whole scenario, but it is not Chris Webber.

lol

 

[shaka zulu]

You don't have a defined point of view. You spout rhetoric and blatherings as though they were cast in stone.

I can validate whether or not someone is making comments based in fact. There is a headcase in this whole scenario, but it is not Chris Webber.

But feel free to continue. You actually amuse some of our members.

I have made all kind validation but it's only validated to the Be holder just like alot of what I don't agree with is a matter of what I behold to NOT be true.So if thAt is the case then it's a matter of what you agree with and what you don't agree with =VALIDATION.

 

[Elise10]

yeah they respect his talent level and he can be a force when he is motivated to prove a point.But it's still talk around the league when people question Chris webber's heart.But I would love to see webber think different get down dirty and get after you.He can do it but most of the times he doesn't want to do those little things and these things are not any of the above statistics.

Shaka.......they question his DURABILITY more than anything. The running joke around the league is how many games will Chris Webber miss due to any injury?
He even made a comment to the local radio how he's played the minimum according to their bet.

Those stats......are his average. When he's healthy.....many have often considered him top 5 PF in the league. They'll still tell you he's got the nest hands among big men.

It's Peja's heart, Chris's health, Mike's defense, Brad's fouls, and Cuttino's shots are the questions about the team.

It'll be painless if you just stop now with all this nonsense.

 

[vj9999]

Getting away from the sideshow for a moment, and back to the topic at hand, I pointed out earlier that I think Pedja needs to quit talking to people. Just like Webber, I hope he eventually learns that the media - regardless of the language being spoken - won't always report things as actually spoken.

Agreeed. I think from now on, I will only take audio/video interviews somewhat seriously. Written words are just that, writen words, and unles Peja or Webber wrote it themselves there is a good chance it gets fabricated in one way or another.

Go Kings!

 

[bdouble013]

No, its not a question of what we agree with and what we don't. Its a question of you mindlessing posting comments that you can't acutally back up (even thought somewhere inside you believe you can). The burden of proof is squarely on your shoulders, and right now the jury aint buying it.

 

[shaka zulu]

You know, being a Serb I have a little favoritism towards Peja, but when I think of the Kings I don't think of CWebb as a guy who wouldn't do these little things. I think of a guy who has same nationality as I do.

It doesn't matter. It's a team effort and when they all contribute in some way, we play well. Chris made some mistakes in the past, but this year he has stepped up as a leader and you got to give him some respect for that.

I don't respect webber being a leader in any fashion of that term when it comes to basketball.

 

[#1sacfan]

Hey, piksi. I would like to see Red Star play a game in international competition in the Spring ... do you know which sport I should be watching ???

I would like to see Partizan beat Crvena Zvezda in soccer some time this century, because it has not happened in a while.

 

[shaka zulu]

No, its not a question of what we agree with and what we don't. Its a question of you mindlessing posting comments that you can't acutally back up (even thought somewhere inside you believe you can). The burden of proof is squarely on your shoulders, and right now the jury aint buying it.

I think alot of post that you are saying are so validated are backed up by stats and other Technical aspects of the game.But no real feel for what is really going on.

 

[bdouble013]

I'm going to pretend I didn't read that.

 

[vj9999]

I don't respect webber being a leader in any fashion of that term when it comes to basketball.

You clearly have your own agenda that has nothing to do with the Kings or basketball. You dislike Webber on a personal level and ignore to recognize him for his basketball talent and leadership qualities.

You have every right to do that, just like we have every right to attempt to disprove you.

 

[shaka zulu]

You clearly have your own agenda that has nothing to do with the Kings or basketball. You dislike Webber on a personal level and ignore to recognize him for his basketball talent and leadership qualities.

You have every right to do that, just like we have every right to attempt to disprove you.

True indeed but I do respect webber's talent level and Basketball IQ but I don't think he is a leader.

 

[SacTownKid]

Yes your going to lose focus when your power forward takes all the jump shots and total FG's.It's crazy because people always credit the defense from patterson and Bowen and how they do such a tuff job on peja not gettin the ball.I don't believe that stuff one bit.you have to look how the game is being played.Last game against the spurs webber had a do the the little things mentality,Which was rebound set guy's up and DEFENSE.He did a heck of a job on tim duncan defensively and took him out of his game,But last night I think from the last 5 games Webb has played his mentality was geared to play OFFENSE,and I think coming into the Game that was his approach.He didn't have the mentality of WAR and that is what he and the whole squad brought to the court the last game against the spurs.

The kings tried to outscore the spurs last night.The spurs denied the ball on both sides they jump and smothered the delivery's from the high post.When they saw this they folded and gave up quit playing.The mental focus in the last 5 games with the kings was a one on one Based game and even when they passsed the ball it was how the SUNS move the ball with 5 guys standing on the perimeter which is not motion princeton OFFENSE.But one on one jump shot no rebound basketball.

If the kings don't start moving the ball offensively they are going to be in trouble when they play the goo TEAMS.Peja's game has taken a Big declined since the trade for mobley.When doug was on the floor it wasn't just more touches it was how he got the ball in scoring positions the high percentage of looks.Now there are no back door looks and the lack of pass first mentality has hurt the Team.Those back door looks open pejas game up to not allow a Bruce Bowen to crowd peja on the perimeter and open up looks for other people.

Now it's all ONE ON ONE Basketball no movement no second options and when you play a defensive minded TEAM like the spurs you will suffer when you don't move the ball and Bodies.When you play Teams like that you must utilize some low post sets to stop the extreme ball denial.

Don't know about you but I saw Peja miss some easy layups last night.

 

[shaka zulu]

Don't know about you but I saw Peja miss some easy layups last night.

He did but he is not the LEADER THE MAN THE HONCHO.He is know HEART the LEADER is supposed to be on the floor in a big game where was the LEADER.

 

[VF21]

Don't know about you but I saw Peja miss some easy layups last night.

You might want to put on some hip boots. It's about to get deep in here.

 

[#1sacfan]

You clearly have your own agenda that has nothing to do with the Kings or basketball. You dislike Webber on a personal level and ignore to recognize him for his basketball talent and leadership qualities.

You have every right to do that, just like we have every right to attempt to disprove you.

Fact is this guy is pretty funny (Shaka), while some of us dont like Webbers style of play we have never said that he was injured because he was a mental headcase. Anybody who is willing to argue this point is awsome or is suffering from the same problems.

 

[rnmeuy]

If the Kings beat the spurs on thurs and Peja has a great game, will all this madness stop? Or do the Kings have to win a championship first before threads like this keep going?
I'm just tired of it all.

 

[VF21]

If the Kings beat the spurs on thurs and Peja has a great game, will all this madness stop?

Probably not.

Or do the Kings have to win a championship first before threads like this keep going?

For some people, winning a championship won't be enough. It will then dissolve into a "Kings could have won MORE championships."

If even #1sacfan, who is admittedly NOT a fan of Webber, sees the hypocrisy in some of these comments, it's clear IMHO that there is an agenda at work here that rational minds will never be able to figure out.

Fans like #1sacfan may not like Webber's style of play, some of his comments off the court, etc. but they can and do, at least, use valid examples to make their points. I may not agree with them and may actually get into pretty heated exchanges with them, but they are at least grounded in reality.