Stojakovic @b92.net

[punisher]

Stojakovic : We're still playin' our game, but with a lot of inconsistency on both ends of the court. San Antonio, that's a team with a goal, pretty disciplined. At the moment, they're playing the best ball in the NBA. The thing last night - it happens. We're playing 82 games, we shouldn't worry about this too much but instead get back on the track and play the best we can the Nets game.

b92 : pretty non-Kings game last night, three quarters and only 3 assists with 15 TO ?

Stojakovic : We're known as a team that relies plenty on individual actions, individual solutions, and although we have enough of passing either we don't know how to utilize that (passing) or we don't want to. However, those individual actions don't work when facing a disciplined team as the Spurs. We had no solutions, combined with a pretty bad shot selection. Spurs took advantage of those and had a lot of fast breaks, easy points, so the hole was just too deep. Although we had a 5-game winning streak, we're not consistent, we're still going up and down, and we should work more on the things that should make us a better playoff team. In the meantime, we had this Christie-Mobley trade, i don't know if that'll help us, time will tell. Mobley is a better scorer, but Doug brought something else, something special on the court, he's a better defensive and a better team player. We'll see, it's been just half of the season....

b92 : Is there any concept for developing your team-play for the second half of the season now that you've made some changes to your roster ? Will it make a job easier for you personally now that you have Mobley also demanding opponent's attention ?

Stojakovic : I don't know, right now when we're playing our team-game we have enough shots for everyone. But if we continue to play the way we did last night, we're probably not going to win games. We'll see, who knows, another trade might happen 'till the end of February.

b92 : What do you personally think you need to adjust to turn into a playoff team to be reckond with ?

Stojakovic : We have a lot of problems with our rebounding. Games we were winning despite being outrebounded were the games against bad teams, teams that did not know how to use the rebounding advantage they had over us. We must adjust our defensive rebounding, our entire defence has to be more team oriented, play it unselfishly. I think we have a chance although I've been saying it for the past 3 or 4 years, giving false promises or just encouraging ourselves. I don't know if those are false promises, but I think we have the quality.

b92 : Are you satisfied with your game personally, and what are your plans for the future ?

Stojakovic : As well as the entire team, I'm not consistent, perhaps I also blend in when we play bad, I lose interest during the game. I should be more consistent, I still have good stats but I believe I could do better.

http://www.b92.net/sport/vesti.php?style=texts&yyyy=2005&mm=01&dd=24&nav_id=160642

 

[fishgirl]

Thanks for posting that, punisher... Very interesting comments. I don't know if it's just me and my optimistic side, but I'm not feeling too much of it from reading this... I do hope it's just me.

 

[M10Bibby]

peja is sayin their may be another trade? oh jeez =X

 

[vj9999]

Stojakovic : As well as the entire team, I'm not consistent, perhaps I also blend in when we play bad, I lose interest during the game. I should be more consistent, I still have good stats but I believe I could do better.

I love Peja, but how can he admit publicly that he loses interest in bad games!?! He's not getting paid to lose interest. I hope CWebb doesn't read these comments At least he admits that he can do better.

Come on Peja, get with the program. Go out there and give it 110% every night.

 

[shaka zulu]

Yes your going to lose focus when your power forward takes all the jump shots and total FG's.It's crazy because people always credit the defense from patterson and Bowen and how they do such a tuff job on peja not gettin the ball.I don't believe that stuff one bit.you have to look how the game is being played.Last game against the spurs webber had a do the the little things mentality,Which was rebound set guy's up and DEFENSE.He did a heck of a job on tim duncan defensively and took him out of his game,But last night I think from the last 5 games Webb has played his mentality was geared to play OFFENSE,and I think coming into the Game that was his approach.He didn't have the mentality of WAR and that is what he and the whole squad brought to the court the last game against the spurs.

The kings tried to outscore the spurs last night.The spurs denied the ball on both sides they jump and smothered the delivery's from the high post.When they saw this they folded and gave up quit playing.The mental focus in the last 5 games with the kings was a one on one Based game and even when they passsed the ball it was how the SUNS move the ball with 5 guys standing on the perimeter which is not motion princeton OFFENSE.But one on one jump shot no rebound basketball.

If the kings don't start moving the ball offensively they are going to be in trouble when they play the goo TEAMS.Peja's game has taken a Big declined since the trade for mobley.When doug was on the floor it wasn't just more touches it was how he got the ball in scoring positions the high percentage of looks.Now there are no back door looks and the lack of pass first mentality has hurt the Team.Those back door looks open pejas game up to not allow a Bruce Bowen to crowd peja on the perimeter and open up looks for other people.

Now it's all ONE ON ONE Basketball no movement no second options and when you play a defensive minded TEAM like the spurs you will suffer when you don't move the ball and Bodies.When you play Teams like that you must utilize some low post sets to stop the extreme ball denial.

 

[punisher]

Re:

David Bauman should sit down and talk to his boy ASAP, these kinds of things are unexeptable for Stojakovic even in the case of non-USA media...
Several things that caught my atention though we've already seen things said in interviews being blow way out of proportion....

#1 - ongoing talk about trades in the midst of the season ?! it's not what you get paid boy....
#2 - the "rebounding" issue to me seems to be just plain mouthwash, since its been half of the season and no progress has been made in his own rebounding department...
#3 - Christie-Mobley, whatever you personally feel, leave it there, no judging your teammates/ex-teammates through papers, besides it's all over now...
$4 - and of course "i lose interest", no comment there

 

[Kingsgurl]

Shaka, you are so full of it, it isn't even funny. Peja loses interest because Webber is taking too many shots? WTF is his excuse last night, when Webb took a grand total of 6 shots. Peja had some back door cuts, as well, he missed the resulting lay-ups.
I find those comments from Peja deeply disturbing on many levels. Unfortunately, it appears Chris was right.
Peja has long been one of my favorite Kings, but maybe a trade wouldn't be a bad thing. How good for chemistry is a player who loses interest in a game if his offense isn't flowing?
You can try to blame it on Webber, or Mobley, or Bibby, or anyone but Peja, but at least those players have a passion for the game.

 

[tbear03]

I find those comments from Peja deeply disturbing on many levels. Unfortunately, it appears Chris was right.
Peja has long been one of my favorite Kings, but maybe a trade wouldn't be a bad thing. How good for chemistry is a player who loses interest in a game if his offense isn't flowing?

WORD.

#2 - the "rebounding" issue to me seems to be just plain mouthwash, since its been half of the season and no progress has been made in his own rebounding department...
#3 - Christie-Mobley, whatever you personally feel, leave it there, no judging your teammates/ex-teammates through papers, besides it's all over now...

WORD again.

I am really not a fan of any of these comments, and they bother me on a few levels.

What is going on?

 

[shaka zulu]

Shaka, you are so full of it, it isn't even funny. Peja loses interest because Webber is taking too many shots? WTF is his excuse last night, when Webb took a grand total of 6 shots. Peja had some back door cuts, as well, he missed the resulting lay-ups.
I find those comments from Peja deeply disturbing on many levels. Unfortunately, it appears Chris was right.
Peja has long been one of my favorite Kings, but maybe a trade wouldn't be a bad thing. How good for chemistry is a player who loses interest in a game if his offense isn't flowing?
You can try to blame it on Webber, or Mobley, or Bibby, or anyone but Peja, but at least those players have a passion for the game.

Webber to me quit last night on the TEAM.HE saw it was going to be a battle and he quit.He wanted know parts of tim Duncan's revenge from the last spurs and kings game.But yeah you maybe right about peja having no passion and being soft.But last night webber's true colors came out.Why not just stay in the locker room.

 

[mcsluggo]

Yes your going to lose focus when your power forward takes all the jump shots and total FG's.It's crazy because people always credit the defense from patterson and Bowen and how they do such a tuff job on peja not gettin the ball.I don't believe that stuff one bit.you have to look how the game is being played.Last game against the spurs webber had a do the the little things mentality,Which was rebound set guy's up and DEFENSE.He did a heck of a job on tim duncan defensively and took him out of his game,But last night I think from the last 5 games Webb has played his mentality was geared to play OFFENSE,and I think coming into the Game that was his approach.He didn't have the mentality of WAR and that is what he and the whole squad brought to the court the last game against the spurs.

...l.

You know, after this post one could easily get the impression that you not only don't watch the games, but don't even bother following the stats lines anymore. Given the timing, this little rant reminds me of the bad cartoons where a lone Japanese soldier is found on a deserted tropical island, still privately fighting WWII.

 

[shaka zulu]

I look at the stat lines every now and then but that is not how you judge the game from my point of view.I look at the intangibles the things that go unseen unoticed.I don't know how you sprain an ankle coming down from a jump shot on your own leg.It has been done many times but I think injuries like that happen when you are tense and nervous out there on the floor.Your body give out due to fear.I think alot of people and palyers go through that.I know I have felt like that at times being human.I think the competition last night got to Webber.He saw the spurs coming at him Hard,and he didn't want any parts of it.But to go back to the sta sheet I don't think you can judge the game by stats alone.no offrense to you but I think intention will power and drive is what makes players great and TEAMS CHAMPIONS and I don't think WEBBER nor PEJA bring that when the going get's tough.

 

[bozzwell]

I love Peja, but how can he admit publicly that he loses interest in bad games!?! He's not getting paid to lose interest. I hope CWebb doesn't read these comments At least he admits that he can do better.

Come on Peja, get with the program. Go out there and give it 110% every night.

Please show me in the original article where is it that Pedja admits that it is him who looses interest in bad games. I re-read it several times and unless I forgot how to read Serbian he is admiting that he _too_ plays bad/looses interest when games turn ugly and Kings teamball breaks down.

We all better be careful when we translate colloquial Serbian on a public forum. Translating correctly (as in word for word) does not necessarily comminicate all the subtlety and nuances of the original.

 

[KingKong]

I love Peja, but how can he admit publicly that he loses interest in bad games!?! He's not getting paid to lose interest. I hope CWebb doesn't read these comments At least he admits that he can do better.

Come on Peja, get with the program. Go out there and give it 110% every night.

I'm hoping that this wasn't translated correctly or something. However, from the interview it seems that Peja has no confidence in the team or himself, like the Kings don't have a chance in hell, and seems like he has a defeated mind-set about our outlook. I hope I'm taking this the wrong way.

 

[mcsluggo]

Stojakovic :

... In the meantime, we had this Christie-Mobley trade, i don't know if that'll help us, time will tell. Mobley is a better scorer, but Doug brought something else, something special on the court, he's a better defensive and a better team player. We'll see, it's been just half of the season....

...

http://www.b92.net/sport/vesti.php?style=texts&yyyy=2005&mm=01&dd=24&nav_id=160642

The rest of the article I can spin as not meaning much: yeah, he (and every other player) gets frustrated when the games not going well... yada yadda yaddah... everyone knows that, just not everyone admits it.

But how can you lay out a new team-mate, (the trade HAS ALREADY HAPPENED!!!) by saying hes not a good team player ??? Even if you are thinking it, BITE YOUR DAMN TONGUE!


Peja is going through a bad stretch right now (like webber did last year), playing below what he has built up expectations to be, and (worse) sticking his foot in his mouth.

Peja needs to buck up and do better right now. We expect more from him than we're getting at this time.

 

[Bricklayer]

Well, on the try to be positive side, he apparently was interviewed just after an ugly loss, so maybe not the best time to get positive quotes.

On the neutral side is that he gave that interview to the Serbian press. I say neutral, because while it has been stated that he and Vlade are under a lot of pressure/scrutiny from the Serbian press and slant their interviews accordingly, I remember last year when there were discrepancies between what Vlade was saying to the Sacto press and the Serb press, it was his comments to the Serb press that seemed to be closer to his true feelings (as they were eventually revealed). If these are Peja's true sentiments...

On the negative side -- there have been questions all year long about Peja's motivation this year. He just looks sluggish on so many occasions, and I find it beyond ironic that he would mention rebounding without a giant MEA CULPA. Quite frankly, this has been the worst Peja Stojakovic we have seen in the 5 years since he became a starter and star in this league. Peja's passive, and at most passive-aggressive -- you always have to read between the lines with him. But it doesn't take a genius to see that he has not consistently been playing inspired ball, for whatever reason.

On the further negative side -- from the beginning of the season there have been two players who were the most obvious players to possibly trade. One was Doug Christie because of age. The other was Peja Stojakovic because you couldn't be sure he was truly with us in this fight. One is gone, the other is still here because Petrie/the Maloofs like him and because Webb seemed to reach out to him and reestablish a rapport at the beginning of the season. If that trade reference was Peja resuming his trade me stance, at this point I say do it. The Peja Stojakovic who showed up against San Antonio earlier this month, or who fought back against Utah, can play for my team any day of the week. He still has a soft/finesse game, but that Peja was not a soft player. But the wimpy soft disappear when challenged lose interest because I'm not getting enough shots (Carter/McGrady anyone?) not sure if I want to be here or play hard or not Peja I have no use for. And anybody who has played organized, or even not so organized sports knows why -- bad teammate. Peja seems like a nice guy, but the teammate who doesn't care, doesn't believe, doesn't fight or doesn't try is not the guy you want on your team, no matter how talented he is.

 

[mcsluggo]

I look at the stat lines every now and then but that is not how you judge the game from my point of view.I look at the intangibles the things that go unseen unoticed.I don't know how you sprain an ankle coming down from a jump shot on your own leg.It has been done many times but I think injuries like that happen when you are tense and nervous out there on the floor.Your body give out due to fear.I think alot of people and palyers go through that.I know I have felt like that at times being human.I think the competition last night got to Webber.He saw the spurs coming at him Hard,and he didn't want any parts of it.But to go back to the sta sheet I don't think you can judge the game by stats alone.no offrense to you but I think intention will power and drive is what makes players great and TEAMS CHAMPIONS and I don't think WEBBER nor PEJA bring that when the going get's tough.

I think you missed my point, which was...

Perhaps your points obout the effect Webber has on Peja's play would have carried more oomph if Webber had actually been on the floor to affect Peja's play.


But back to these comments above. Are you really insinuating that Webber faked a ankle sprain because he didn't want to be part of a game that was heading south?

 

[Bricklayer]

I think you missed my point, which was...

Perhaps your points obout the effect Webber has on Peja's play would have carried more oomph if Webber had actually been on the floor to affect Peja's play.


But back to these comments above. Are you really insinuating that Webber faked a ankle sprain because he didn't want to be part of a game that was heading south?

Um yes, yes he is.

Credibility: n. cred-i-bil-i-ty; 1) the quality or power of inspiring belief

 

[punisher]

Please show me in the original article where is it that Pedja admits that it is him who looses interest in bad games. I re-read it several times and unless I forgot how to read Serbian he is admiting that he _too_ plays bad/looses interest when games turn ugly and Kings teamball breaks down.

We all better be careful when we translate colloquial Serbian on a public forum. Translating correctly (as in word for word) does not necessarily comminicate all the subtlety and nuances of the original.

i believe there's nothnig wrong with the translation here, he said "i don't know, perhaps when we play bad i too blend in, lose the interest in the game"...he did say perhaps, but you either lose the interest or you dont lose the interest, there's no perhaps about it, you know when you lose interest in a game and just mentioning in as a possibility is just not right...

 

[vj9999]

Please show me in the original article where is it that Pedja admits that it is him who looses interest in bad games. I re-read it several times and unless I forgot how to read Serbian he is admiting that he _too_ plays bad/looses interest when games turn ugly and Kings teamball breaks down.

We all better be careful when we translate colloquial Serbian on a public forum. Translating correctly (as in word for word) does not necessarily comminicate all the subtlety and nuances of the original.

It will be my pleasure. Original text is "“Kao i ekipa, imam oscilacije, možda se i ja nekad utopim u tu lošu igru ekipe, izgubim interesovanje tokom meča. Trebalo bi da budem konstantniji. I dalje imam dobru statistiku, ali verujem da mogu više i bolje“ rekao je Stojaković za B92."

My translation is "Like the team, I have oscilations too, maybe sometimes I blend in to the bad performance of the team, lose interest during the game. I should be more consistent. I still have good stats, but I believe I can give more and better."

So obviously he admits losing interest during bad games by the team and he admits although he puts up good numbers that he can contribute more and better.

 

[love_them_kings]

Stojakovic : We're known as a team that relies plenty on individual actions, individual solutions, and although we have enough of passing either we don't know how to utilize that (passing) or we don't want to.

http://www.b92.net/sport/vesti.php?style=texts&yyyy=2005&mm=01&dd=24&nav_id=160642

I thought this part was interesting. To me, it sounds like Pedja is saying that the Kings aren't known for their "TEAM" playing, and that they rely more on individual efforts. I've always thought our passing and assists were good, and that we play well as a team. I don't know. The whole article disturbed me. I just don't know if Pedja's heart is in it right now, and in tough games that can make the difference. I didn't want the Maloofs to trade Pedja because I believed (and still believed) that Pedja would not purposely play badly because it would damage his career. Now I'm thinking maybe we should have just traded him. You can make someone play, but you can't make them care if their heart isn't in it.

Hmm.. didn't like the comments about Mobley at all. Saying you miss Doug is one thing but cutting down a new teammate isn't necessarily. Mobley has been totally excited and positive about the trade, and I don't think Pedja needed to go there.

 

[bozzwell]

On the further negative side -- from the beginning of the season there have been two players who were the most obvious players to possibly trade. One was Doug Christie because of age. The other was Peja Stojakovic because you couldn't be sure he was truly with us in this fight. One is gone, the other is still here because Petrie/the Maloofs like him and because Webb seemed to reach out to him and reestablish a rapport at the beginning of the season. If that trade reference was Peja resuming his trade me stance, at this point I say do it. The Peja Stojakovic who showed up against San Antonio earlier this month, or who fought back against Utah, can play for my team any day of the week. He still has a soft/finesse game, but that Peja was not a soft player. But the wimpy soft disappear when challenged lose interest because I'm not getting enough shots (Carter/McGrady anyone?) not sure if I want to be here or play hard or not Peja I have no use for. And anybody who has played organized, or even not so organized sports knows why -- bad teammate. Peja seems like a nice guy, but the teammate who doesn't care, doesn't believe, doesn't fight or doesn't try is not the guy you want on your team, no matter how talented he is.

While I could go on to defend Pedja on a number of points in the article your last comment (above) points to the real issue and eliminates any mitigating "evidence". Fortget about mentioning trade or "lossing interest" comments in Pedja's interview. One overarching theme in this as in many interviews of the last summer was: "The window has closed". Only in this interview, Pedja is more subtle (or more passive aggressive as Brick suggested - I cannot disagree with that) when going about it. But it is all about Pedja not believing that this team is going to win the ring and therefore... you fill in the blanks. To his credit, he also poses that maybe it is the team that doesn't believe and never really believed in the last 3-4 years.

Still, I hope this was just bitterness after being bounced by Spurs.

 

[love_them_kings]

I think you missed my point, which was...

Perhaps your points obout the effect Webber has on Peja's play would have carried more oomph if Webber had actually been on the floor to affect Peja's play.


But back to these comments above. Are you really insinuating that Webber faked a ankle sprain because he didn't want to be part of a game that was heading south?

Yep, that seemed to be the insinuation. I had to reread it several times because I was in disbelief. I guess you would have to think pretty poorly of Webber to believe that! Give me a break.

 

[shaka zulu]

I think you missed my point, which was...

Perhaps your points obout the effect Webber has on Peja's play would have carried more oomph if Webber had actually been on the floor to affect Peja's play.


But back to these comments above. Are you really insinuating that Webber faked a ankle sprain because he didn't want to be part of a game that was heading south?

Iam not saying he faked the injury what Iam saying is his body gave out on him due to fear of the competition.I don't think he wanted to handle the pressure that was coming at him.So his body caved into the pressuse and pressure does bust pipes.He didn't want any parts of that game last night.But I will say this that he fought the last game against Duncan and the spurs,But you have to keep that fire coming because timmy and T-mass and popovich were coming for blood last night.they got what they wanted a kick butt game.

 

[bdouble013]

Body gave out due to fear of competition? You hear that sound? Kinda of a "whooooosh"? Thats your credibility going out the window.

 

[shaka zulu]

Body gave out due to fear of competition? You hear that sound? Kinda of a "whooooosh"? Thats your credibility going out the window.

That's what I feel happen.It doesn't bother me one bit the credibilty issue.But he was tense his body crumbled out of fear he fell on his own weight.They used to teach us about that in elementary how being tense can sometimes produce injuries on the court.

 

[Rockmeister]

I can't read this article. Its not in English. Maybe punisher is making this stuff up.

 

[The Freak]

On a lighter note, here is the famous "Petri is jelli translation of this article" I think you can trust this one


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[bozzwell]

It will be my pleasure. Original text is "“Kao i ekipa, imam oscilacije, možda se i ja nekad utopim u tu lošu igru ekipe, izgubim interesovanje tokom meča. Trebalo bi da budem konstantniji. I dalje imam dobru statistiku, ali verujem da mogu više i bolje“ rekao je Stojaković za B92."

My translation is "Like the team, I have oscilations too, maybe sometimes I blend in to the bad performance of the team, lose interest during the game. I should be more consistent. I still have good stats, but I believe I can give more and better."

So obviously he admits losing interest during bad games by the team and he admits although he puts up good numbers that he can contribute more and better.

I'm gonna put my grammar nazi hat on here - bear with me, please.

He said (according to B92 interview - in Serbian): "možda se i ja nekad utopim"

And you translated it as: "maybe sometimes I blend in to the".

The two are not the same. He said "i ja" which literally trasnslated is "and I". Anyone familiar with colloquial Serbian understands that the expression is equal to the English "I, too" or in a different sentence/context "me too". Original interview translated it as "I also" which would suggest that Pedja looses interest in games and blands in to bad play in addition to whatever else he does, when clearly he is saying that _he_too_ plays badly and looses interest (in _addition_ to his teammates playing badly/loosing interest).

 

[Bricklayer]

I can't read this article. Its not in English. Maybe punisher is making this stuff up.

Huh? Think we have a few confirmations around from some of the other Serbian speakers on the board. Some question of nuance, but basically that is what he said.

 

[Geoff]

Hmmm,

is it time to start up "Peja-for-Artest" again? Yeah, Artest is a psycho but would you rather have a teamate that the other guys are terrified of, or one they know they can walk over?