Still interested in Mason Plumlee?

[sdballer]

I'd love to acquire Plumlee...however in order to do so the Kings would have to have Williams as an add on or trade one of Nik or Ben....

Why? Plumlee isn't that good

 

[kingsboi]

Why? Plumlee isn't that good

He isn't....but he's still a young, athletic big and I don't see Brooklyn giving him up for scrap heaps.

 

[Gilles]

The cap is not tied up at all because JJ is an expiring. This gives us the best chance for speedy injection of veteran presence on our team. And if it does not work, we'll have a 24M space open for next season and not another problem on how we trade JT or Landry again. JJ is not washed up at all, KG was washed up vet in Brooklyn, Brook was the broken(injury) piece in Brooklyn, and D-Will was the big headed guy in Brooklyn. JJ is still money from the perimeter and could still challenge top 5 SG in this league that has run-out of crafty SG.

As for Plumlee, I take him as sort of Nick Collison, a blue collar player that has actually the experience playing with stars in team USA.

As for the 29th, you take Upshaw who's the biggest and meanest measurement in this draft.

You proposed trade is illegal under CBA. That kinda kills the idea from the start.

Everyone in official media is taking "I'm not willing to talk about, but it was really bad" stance about Upshaw. Those bloggers, who a re willing to offer an opinion is unanimous, that Upshaw most likely dealt drugs and was involved in some other activities. No one is giving him guaranteed money. He might become #31 pick, but no one will pick him before that.

 

[randymoss1881]

We would be making this trade after July 1st so it's next years cap. We wouldn't have to give up Collison and use the BI exemption to resign Cassipi and our bench would be
Ray/Johnson/Cassipi/Plumlee with Evans signed to a vet min. And Johnson 24mill is for 1 year and we still wouldn't be over the luxary tax.

The first issue is a technical one. That's not enough salary for that trade to work. You'd have to include Collison.

But beyond that, even if Brooklyn was amenable to that deal, in your scenario the Kings would be paying their sixth man $24 million dollars. And it would mean the Kings would have $5.5 million to sign the remaining six players to fill the roster. The bench would be Johnson, WCS, Moreland, Stockton and whoever else you could afford.

The cap is not tied up at all because JJ is an expiring. This gives us the best chance for speedy injection of veteran presence on our team. And if it does not work, we'll have a 24M space open for next season and not another problem on how we trade JT or Landry again. JJ is not washed up at all, KG was washed up vet in Brooklyn, Brook was the broken(injury) piece in Brooklyn, and D-Will was the big headed guy in Brooklyn. JJ is still money from the perimeter and could still challenge top 5 SG in this league that has run-out of crafty SG.

As for Plumlee, I take him as sort of Nick Collison, a blue collar player that has actually the experience playing with stars in team USA.

As for the 29th, you take Upshaw who's the biggest and meanest measurement in this draft.

Ya don't know why people assume he is washed up this isn't DWill.
Last 2 years:
14.8ppg-5.rpg-3.7apg 47%/35%/80
15.8ppg-3.4rpg-2.7apg 49/40/80

 

[Gilles]

Next year
Johnson+Plumlee - $26,310,000
JT+Landry+Stauskas - $15,800,000, while Brooklyn must receive at least $21 million in salaries
Kings won't have enough room under cap to absorb either. Even waiving all 3 non-guarantees won't help.
Just give up - no one is trading for Johnson and his overrated teammate.

And what is BI, that you want to spend on Omri?

 

[KingsCitizen]

did you read what was proposed for a washed up JJ & plumlee?

Hopefully you will realize I am replying to my post where you replied and not to whatever post you think I replied to.

 

[Bricklayer]

Funny thing is, watching these playoffs, and Pierce in particular in these playoffs, it made me keenly aware that one of the pieces the Kings could really use is an OG. An old guard, original gangster sort of vet who was a vet of the wars, knew what was what, wasn't scared of anyone, and could provide outsized guidance. That of course assumes we are even still a young team anymore by the time the season starts. And contrary to what some are iomplying, Johnson really isn't washed up yet anymore than Pierce is. He's still reasonably solid across the board, can still shoot it. Certainly solid enough to join a team with Cousins and Gay already there and pair with Collison to give us all the experience and weapons we need in a starting lineup.

But the overriding, and really only important thing at some point with Joe Johnson is that contract. That horrible, ridiculous out of this world contract. It makes any such use of him almost totally impractical. You have to pile up too many assets to get him. And after you have him, along with Cousins and Gay he's taking up your entire cap and pinning you, preventing you from patching other holes. If he was a $7mil player I'd be very much in favor of getting him. But the money is just impossible.

 

[KingMilz]

Not really sure I want to see Johnson and Gay on the same team

 

[Big Cuz 15]

i agree brick. however giving up the 6th and other assets to get him and a decent big?

 

[jdbraver]

Not really sure I want to see Johnson and Gay on the same team

Ok. Why don't you go ahead and explain why.

 

[KingMilz]

Ok. Why don't you go ahead and explain why.

Cause Joe right now is a overpaid less athletic garbage version of Rudy, both catch and hold the ball, both zone out on D and both lack that mental toughness. Having 3 players (Cousins) who catch and hold the ball won't really get it done there's not another team in the NBA playoffs (in the West or top teams in the East) that has that. Joe likes to have the ball in his hands and plus he's on the downside of his career.

The team needs ball movers/players that move well without the ball not ball stoppers.