Still interested in Mason Plumlee?

If we get WCS, then no. If we don't get him in the draft, then possibly! From Nets, I could be tempted to look into Joe Johnson.
 
The Nets had a terrible season after a coaching change. I don't think you can count out Plumlee based on last season. I would consider trading for him, sure. In the right situation. He is young. I think he will be good on the right team.
 
I wouldn't mind trading for Plumlee. I'm not sure if he'd be a starter for us, or a good fit next to Cousins, but as a rotation player behind DMC he'd be a good addition.

If we had to take a veteran player from Brooklyn, which is a possibility since they want to shred salary, I'd like to see us add Jarrett Jack. He would be an excellent player off the bench for us, and capable starter if Collison goes down [again].
 
Čarolija said:
If we get WCS, then no. If we don't get him in the draft, then possibly! From Nets, I could be tempted to look into Joe Johnson.
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Definitely gonna take a look first if WCS can fall to us before taking look on trading that pick with the Nets.

But if the rumors are true that Lopez will venture into free agency, then probably the Nets would be one of the teams we can trade with for guys like Landry and Thompson.
Personally, my interest with the Nets trade would circle around their 29th pick + Plum + JJ for our 6th + JT + Landry + Ben + (probably Collison to match salary wise).

This is if we want to do a win-now mode next season.

C - DMC
PF - Plum
SF - Rudy
SG - JJ
PG - Lawson (probably after the draft dust has settled, Karl would be here).

We'll risk the 29th pick with maybe a high risk/high reward guy like Upshaw.

If these guys stay healthy, then that's a legit playoff team right away.
 
KingsCitizen said:
Definitely gonna take a look first if WCS can fall to us before taking look on trading that pick with the Nets.

But if the rumors are true that Lopez will venture into free agency, then probably the Nets would be one of the teams we can trade with for guys like Landry and Thompson.
Personally, my interest with the Nets trade would circle around their 29th pick + Plum + JJ for our 6th + JT + Landry + Ben + (probably Collison to match salary wise).

This is if we want to do a win-now mode next season.

C - DMC
PF - Plum
SF - Rudy
SG - JJ
PG - Lawson (probably after the draft dust has settled, Karl would be here).

We'll risk the 29th pick with maybe a high risk/high reward guy like Upshaw.

If these guys stay healthy, then that's a legit playoff team right away.
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Thats way too rich a deal. Plumlee is a backup big and Johnson isn't that good anymore. You don't throw a high lotto pick, a sg prospect, your starting pg plus our entire pf rotation at it. Not even sure what you have left for Lawson but what would your bench be?
 
KingsCitizen said:
Definitely gonna take a look first if WCS can fall to us before taking look on trading that pick with the Nets.

But if the rumors are true that Lopez will venture into free agency, then probably the Nets would be one of the teams we can trade with for guys like Landry and Thompson.
Personally, my interest with the Nets trade would circle around their 29th pick + Plum + JJ for our 6th + JT + Landry + Ben + (probably Collison to match salary wise).

This is if we want to do a win-now mode next season.

C - DMC
PF - Plum
SF - Rudy
SG - JJ
PG - Lawson (probably after the draft dust has settled, Karl would be here).

We'll risk the 29th pick with maybe a high risk/high reward guy like Upshaw.

If these guys stay healthy, then that's a legit playoff team right away.
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gerbil, is that you? this is a gamble not worth taking. ALL of the cap is tied up in a few players with no room for error. we'd be the big russians nets.
 
sdballer said:
Thats way too rich a deal. Plumlee is a backup big and Johnson isn't that good anymore. You don't throw a high lotto pick, a sg prospect, your starting pg plus our entire pf rotation at it. Not even sure what you have left for Lawson but what would your bench be?
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someone huffing too many fumes. who would give up that rich of a deal for a washed up SG & a ok big? WCS is there! what is the difference between the two? i don't see much of a difference. good lord some people are that desperate to sniff the playoffs to give up the future. we are not that far off from making the playoffs. don't be the boston celtics trading joe johnson for tony delk & rodney rogers

http://www.complex.com/sports/2013/...-deals-in-nba-history/joe-johnson-to-the-suns
 
KingsCitizen said:
Definitely gonna take a look first if WCS can fall to us before taking look on trading that pick with the Nets.

But if the rumors are true that Lopez will venture into free agency, then probably the Nets would be one of the teams we can trade with for guys like Landry and Thompson.
Personally, my interest with the Nets trade would circle around their 29th pick + Plum + JJ for our 6th + JT + Landry + Ben + (probably Collison to match salary wise).

This is if we want to do a win-now mode next season.

C - DMC
PF - Plum
SF - Rudy
SG - JJ
PG - Lawson (probably after the draft dust has settled, Karl would be here).

We'll risk the 29th pick with maybe a high risk/high reward guy like Upshaw.

If these guys stay healthy, then that's a legit playoff team right away.
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You would have to include Collison to make that trade work. And unless they are trading Rudy for him I don't see a way to trade for Lawson.

The roster after that proposed deal with Brooklyn would be:

  1. Cousins
  2. Plumlee
  3. Gay
  4. Johnson
  5. McCallum
  6. Stauskas
  7. Moreland (if the team picks up his option)
  8. Stockton (if the team picks up his option
  9. Player taken with the 29th pick
and the Kings would have a little over $7 million dollars to fill out the rest of the roster.

I don't see any reason to even consider going down that road. McCallum as the starting PG and Stauskas as your best and most experienced bench player is not going to get the Kings anywhere.
 
I'd wait til draft day and if WCS is available at 6, I take him. If he's gone, then maybe consider Nik for Plumlee and draft Winslow.
 
Plumlee is still a good player, but the Nets should've traded him when his stock was high. I'd honestly trade from the 6 first. Trade down from #6 to #8-#11. Get a 2nd round and dump Landry. Then trade down for Plumlee.
 
Alright guys hear me out on this.
I'd be willing to go JT/Landry/Nik for Plumlee/Johnson. Yes Johnson has a massive salary this year but if everything works out he would come back next year on a cheaper contract (10-12mill). We are basically subbing Nik for Plumlee while still drafting WCS. Johnson has only averaged 13 shots per game last 2 seasons so it's not like he's a chucker he is also a very good 3poont shooter. Now where I think this would work and possibly put is in the playoffs is with Johnson comming off the bench. He can come on as a 6th man and probably be the best in the league he is a mill manard guy with good character I could see him av captins this. Johnson would propel our bench to the upper bench in the league by himself. Our bench core of
Plumlee/ Johnson/Ray would be very solid. And when it's time to go small our small ball would be elite
Collison/Ben/Johnson/Gay/DMC.
 
randymoss1881 said:
Alright guys hear me out on this.
I'd be willing to go JT/Landry/Nik for Plumlee/Johnson. Yes Johnson has a massive salary this year but if everything works out he would come back next year on a cheaper contract (10-12mill). We are basically subbing Nik for Plumlee while still drafting WCS. Johnson has only averaged 13 shots per game last 2 seasons so it's not like he's a chucker he is also a very good 3poont shooter. Now where I think this would work and possibly put is in the playoffs is with Johnson comming off the bench. He can come on as a 6th man and probably be the best in the league he is a mill manard guy with good character I could see him av captins this. Johnson would propel our bench to the upper bench in the league by himself. Our bench core of
Plumlee/ Johnson/Ray would be very solid. And when it's time to go small our small ball would be elite
Collison/Ben/Johnson/Gay/DMC.
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yes, lets pray he takes 12 mil as a courtesy to us.
 
Plumlee is not worth #6. Period. Offer them Ben and change (Ray?), draft WCS and all of a sudden your big men platoon is looking good!
 
Plumlee is already 25 and can't shoot at all. He pretty much settled as a center. Kings already have their backup C in JT.
 
randymoss1881 said:
Alright guys hear me out on this.
I'd be willing to go JT/Landry/Nik for Plumlee/Johnson. Yes Johnson has a massive salary this year but if everything works out he would come back next year on a cheaper contract (10-12mill). We are basically subbing Nik for Plumlee while still drafting WCS. Johnson has only averaged 13 shots per game last 2 seasons so it's not like he's a chucker he is also a very good 3poont shooter. Now where I think this would work and possibly put is in the playoffs is with Johnson comming off the bench. He can come on as a 6th man and probably be the best in the league he is a mill manard guy with good character I could see him av captins this. Johnson would propel our bench to the upper bench in the league by himself. Our bench core of
Plumlee/ Johnson/Ray would be very solid. And when it's time to go small our small ball would be elite
Collison/Ben/Johnson/Gay/DMC.
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The first issue is a technical one. That's not enough salary for that trade to work. You'd have to include Collison.

But beyond that, even if Brooklyn was amenable to that deal, in your scenario the Kings would be paying their sixth man $24 million dollars. And it would mean the Kings would have $5.5 million to sign the remaining six players to fill the roster. The bench would be Johnson, WCS, Moreland, Stockton and whoever else you could afford.
 
it's not like we're putting together the big 3 ala miami a few years back with some of the top players. we're talking about some over the hill player signed to some ridiculously large contract just to sniff the playoffs. YES we'll make the playoffs and when cuz realizes when his contract is coming up. he'll look around him and see NOTHING then say deuces. JJ will be like 35/36 when boogie leaves. we'll have capspace i think from it but not enough to really put some good pieces around him.

just look at what cleveland did with lebron the first time around as an example. lotta washed up vets/bad contracts so they could sniff playoffs but not really go all the way. if lebron wasn't as great as he is they wouldn't have made it to the finals with all those scrubs. this time around they had a ton of assets to parlay into pieces to surround him properly.
 
Big Cuz 15 said:
gerbil, is that you? this is a gamble not worth taking. ALL of the cap is tied up in a few players with no room for error. we'd be the big russians nets.
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The cap is not tied up at all because JJ is an expiring. This gives us the best chance for speedy injection of veteran presence on our team. And if it does not work, we'll have a 24M space open for next season and not another problem on how we trade JT or Landry again. JJ is not washed up at all, KG was washed up vet in Brooklyn, Brook was the broken(injury) piece in Brooklyn, and D-Will was the big headed guy in Brooklyn. JJ is still money from the perimeter and could still challenge top 5 SG in this league that has run-out of crafty SG.

As for Plumlee, I take him as sort of Nick Collison, a blue collar player that has actually the experience playing with stars in team USA.

As for the 29th, you take Upshaw who's the biggest and meanest measurement in this draft.
 
I wasn't aware this was a Plumlee for the 6th pick thread. If WCS, Mudiay and possibly Winslow are there you gota take them unless we get a lot of value in return.
 
KingsCitizen said:
The cap is not tied up at all because JJ is an expiring. This gives us the best chance for speedy injection of veteran presence on our team. And if it does not work, we'll have a 24M space open for next season and not another problem on how we trade JT or Landry again. JJ is not washed up at all, KG was washed up vet in Brooklyn, Brook was the broken(injury) piece in Brooklyn, and D-Will was the big headed guy in Brooklyn. JJ is still money from the perimeter and could still challenge top 5 SG in this league that has run-out of crafty SG.

As for Plumlee, I take him as sort of Nick Collison, a blue collar player that has actually the experience playing with stars in team USA.

As for the 29th, you take Upshaw who's the biggest and meanest measurement in this draft.
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did you read what was proposed for a washed up JJ & plumlee?
 
I'd love to acquire Plumlee...however in order to do so the Kings would have to have Williams as an add on or trade one of Nik or Ben....
 
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