Skinner to Backup Miller ...

[Folsom Al]

Okay, Now We're Talkin' ...

I think we're arguing the same side of the discussion. I was attempting, apparently without success, to justify keeping Miller at center.

I didn't make myself clear from the beginning ....

Traditionally, "Center" is a position on the court .... having the height doesn't only quailify you to play a certain position .... ie., just because Brad is 7' doesn't make him a center.

Now, what is expected of a center is another topic ... and that's the point I guess I was trying to make. To me, Skinner plays the "center position" more effectively. He knows how to roam in-n-out of the paint, he knows how to beat driving players to a spot, he knows how to block-out, knows how to rebound, his shot blocks are timed. He's coached/trained/studied that position. On top of all that .... he's quick !!!

I just think he knows how to play the position better.

With all this said .... you're right .... we're on the same side of the fence ... I love the combinations of BIG GUYS Adelman now has on the bench and the problem is that opposing teams have no tapes to study prior to playing us.

I said this in another thread .... I really love our chances in the West. I think we match-up perfectly fine (and in some cases, better) with the 4 teams above us.

Yeah, baby .... I Love This Game

 

[VF21]

I have an expression I've been known to use a time or two, Al:

I LOVE THIS TEAM!!!

 

[Gary]

Now for the guards....... 1st 12:00
1-Bibby
2-Mobley

sub Jackson for Mobley... 1st 4:00
1-Bibby
2-Jackson

Sub Evans for Bibby at the end of the 1st... 2nd 12:00
1-Jackson
2-Evans

At the 7 minute mark bring in Mobley for Evans
1-Jackson
2-Mobley

At the 5 minute mark Put Bibby back in for Jackson
1-Bibby
2-Mobley


And of course use house, and the others as backups to them./

 

[LPKingsFan]

Well, there you're getting Evans only around 10 minutes a game or so, and I think the Kings need his D and athleticism more than that.

 

[4cwebb]

It will be interesting to see whose minutes get squeezed once Brad comes back. If I were picking, it wouldn't be Skinner's minutes. He provides things on the defensive end which Darius and KThomas just cannot provide, and I think that would make him valuable playing alongside Brad or Darius (since neither of those guys is athletic enough to defend the rim).

I advocated Skinner starting at PF in another thread merely b/c of this defensive presence (and b/c I have very little respect for the back up C position in the NBA right now --- there's aren't a lot of dominant post players in that class, and I think Darius can hang with just about any of them), but I'd be happy enough with Skinner just getting enough minutes throughout the game. Doesn't matter too much who starts at PF one way or another --- it's now the Kings weakest starter when compared with the guys that are trotting out at the other starting spots.

 

[mr. moustache]

You forgot about Kevin Martin at OG, Eddie House at the point and Tag at center.

I didn't forget them, I just don't see them getting any "real" minutes unless there's an injury. Martin is the only one with a future and even he's 2 years away from being a 25min player.

 

[Entity]

First off you will never see the entire second unit on the court at the same time unless it is garbage time. I think with athleticism being what most Kings fans desired all summer long, that Kenny Thomas should be starting at PF. You are not going to move Brad to PF and Skinner to starting C. But i do believe either Skinner or Thomas one should be on the court for at least 40 min. I don't think Darius and Brad should be in at the same time to often because of loss of athleticism. Now don't get me Wrong Darius has shown me a few things from time to time, but Thomas brings it all the time. Actually Thomas is averaging 30 min coming off the bench in his first 6 games with us.


I am just glad that we are so Deep now that we argue over who should start and all have valid points. At the beginning of the year it was no question as to who would start. Now we have the C with Brad and Skinner, the PF with Daruis and Thomas, and also the SG with Mobley and Evans. Its great to have these problems,

I Love This Team!!!

 

[Bricklayer]

I am just glad that we are so Deep now that we argue over who should start and all have valid points. At the beginning of the year it was no question as to who would start. Now we have the C with Brad and Skinner, the PF with Daruis and Thomas, and also the SG with Mobley and Evans. Its great to have these problems,

Depends how you look at it -- the flip side is that what we've really got is a PF position with nobody good enough to clearly claim it. I vote Skinner, but odds are Rick sticks with offense.

If Evans can keep this up, would be a nice development for us at OG. But basically he's had two strong games, and he's been with us all year.

 

[JB_kings]

The matchups will dictate more about who is going to get the minutes. The starter thing is just that - a starting point. Against teams like the Suns, you will probably see more of KT at PF against Marion and Skinner backing up Brad on Amare. Against the Spurs, you might see more of the "big" lineup with Skinner and Brad in there. I'm assuming Adelman will go with Brad and Darius as starters for a good deal of the final 20 games. You have to remember that while we all love Skinner, he still isn't familiar with all the plays and options off those plays. The proof was there in the 4th quarter against the Grizz when they overplayed the entry pass into the 4 man at the elbow. Lots of turnovers and stalled offense resulted. Lots of practice time to fix all that now.

 

[HndsmCelt]

Depends how you look at it -- the flip side is that what we've really got is a PF position with nobody good enough to clearly claim it. I vote Skinner, but odds are Rick sticks with offense.

If Evans can keep this up, would be a nice development for us at OG. But basically he's had two strong games, and he's been with us all year.

Having been raised on defense b-ball I have to note there IS a strong limitation to defense orented team, that is once they get behind they often have trouble catching up. I like the idea of starting with ofense and bringing D from the bench. Build a lead then put in guys who can hold it. Just my prefence after years of wathing Boyd Grant teams hold opponets to 55 points but never lead the game.

 

[tienchi3x]

I wouldn't mind Skinner starting, it has its advantages. For one I think a Miller/Skinner tandem would be very good at rebounding. Also that leads Darius to run the Offense when Miller sits. On the other hand the Miller/Darius tandem has proven pretty effective for us, at least on offense. As for the lineups that leave Darius out, I think they are a mistake, he's been very solid for us both off the bench and as a starter, and seems to be steadily improving.