Brewer16
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/specials/preview/2005/scouting.reports/kings.html
So, too high or too low?
So, too high or too low?
SI Ranks Kings 6th
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Jkbiker
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Tough call at this point, If we can take Phoenix then have a good chance at Division title and No 2 or 3 slot. If not then we will end up between 4-6 slot depending on rockets and Dallas. But no 6 seed I think might be low putting both Houston and Dallas above us. Since play during pre-season has been poor, hard to tell whether we can move up the ladder.
might have better indication on the first question after the two pre-season games with Phoenix, But with Amare out and so much improvement needed for us, still might not get any better read at this time.
might have better indication on the first question after the two pre-season games with Phoenix, But with Amare out and so much improvement needed for us, still might not get any better read at this time.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
6 may be a bit high, but only a bit.
The three in the East and San Antonio are clearly ahead of us until we prove otherwise. So best we could be is 5th. But in order to do that we have to be better than a 58 win Mavs team, a loaded Houston team with two stars and who plugged all three of their roster holes from last year with Swift, Anderson and Alston, a Denver team which finished the season on something like a 29-3 tear. a Phoenix team which won 61 last year, and a Cleveland team which might have the next Jordan and loaded up on all kinds of supporting help. so 5-10 are the realistic spots. 5 being extremely optimistic. 7 or 8 more realistic until we see how things shake out. We've got no apparent defense, and no superstar to carry us and so have a lot to prove despite the overall talent.
The three in the East and San Antonio are clearly ahead of us until we prove otherwise. So best we could be is 5th. But in order to do that we have to be better than a 58 win Mavs team, a loaded Houston team with two stars and who plugged all three of their roster holes from last year with Swift, Anderson and Alston, a Denver team which finished the season on something like a 29-3 tear. a Phoenix team which won 61 last year, and a Cleveland team which might have the next Jordan and loaded up on all kinds of supporting help. so 5-10 are the realistic spots. 5 being extremely optimistic. 7 or 8 more realistic until we see how things shake out. We've got no apparent defense, and no superstar to carry us and so have a lot to prove despite the overall talent.
kingsfan916
Starter
We are 2 spots low
CaminoChaos
Bench
Someone one on another board picked the Lakers over the Kings and Suns. Now thats optimism.
Rockin' in the Free World
G-League
Bricklayer said:
He ranked us 6th in the West alone. 1.SA 2.Denver 3.Phx 4.Houston 5. Dallas 6.Kings
Still not sold on Nugs, Suns, and Rockets...I think this is going to be a very interesting year. Simply no idea how its going to look, but I still like our chances as a 2-4 seed come playoff time. Obviously this guy isn't predicting playoff seedings, but Kings the 6th best team in the west is one of the more pessimistic assesments of this team. Who am I kidding..come on November no one has any diea what is going to happen! GO KINGS!! Can I get a woot woot?
Rockin' in the Free World
G-League
Sorry..got a little excited..that didn't deserve a woot, not for this pasty white boy anyway.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Rockin' in the Free World said:
Ah...perils of not reading the article. Oops.
To that I would say -- its possible. That's the pessimistic take on us, but certainly every one of those other teams has at least as good a claim as we do to being ranked where they are. Have a feeling we'll end up being better than 1 or 2 of them, but which one or two, I have no idea right now. Certainly we should be better than anyone not on that list. Those are sort of the 6 playoff locks, then there's a dropoff.
Bballkingsrock
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I think in the west, we are 3rd place behind Houston, and San Antonio because Phoenix won't be as good as last year with Amare out in the season and we should win the Pacific divsion, which makes us at least in third place.
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Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Bballkingsrock said:
I don't think those rankings were for mandatory playoff positioning at the end of the year, so much as "power" or how dangerous a team is come playoff time. Could be wrong though sine 1,2,3 are from different divisions.
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Fillmoe
Guest
what is 3th place?
Bballkingsrock
All-Star
Fillmoe said:
Whoops, sorry.
I will edit and change...
PixelPusher
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Bballkingsrock said:Whoops, sorry.
Oh, come onth nowth! Giveth the guyth a breakth!
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ONEZERO
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i didnt read the entire rankings. were 6th in the west? now thats impossible.
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
ONEZERO said:
Hardly impossible. There are 6 very good teams in the West. One of them will be 6th, and may, like last year, very well win 50+ games and play a division winner on the road in the first round.
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Netguy115
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suns at 3rd? completely absurd
they're a .500 ballclub without amare, and nowhere near what they were last year even when they get him back
heh, wouldn't it be hilarious if they do awesome without him, then crumble when he returns due to the chemistry being all but destroyed, and then lose the pacific division lead on the final day of the season?
...hmm, now why does that sound familiar?
they're a .500 ballclub without amare, and nowhere near what they were last year even when they get him back
heh, wouldn't it be hilarious if they do awesome without him, then crumble when he returns due to the chemistry being all but destroyed, and then lose the pacific division lead on the final day of the season?
...hmm, now why does that sound familiar?
stevetaebo
Bench
KINGS > SUNS
SI and other magazines are idiots for putting a team so high that has lost 3 starters from last season. the microfracture surgery on Amare will clearly hurt Suns this season. I see the suns getting a 6th-8th seed
SI and other magazines are idiots for putting a team so high that has lost 3 starters from last season. the microfracture surgery on Amare will clearly hurt Suns this season. I see the suns getting a 6th-8th seed
You guys are right, it's gonna be an interesting season, with so many teams loaded with talent. It's gonna come down to coaching, more than any other season in last few years. And to the team chemistry.
I am still to be sold out on our awfully small roster. I guess Petrie should be trusted to know what he was doing but...Expect Yao Ming and Mutombo to kill us on the inside. Unless we unleash Luke, that is.
To be completely honest, looking at all these rosters in the WC, it is entirely possible we might not even make the playoffs. Then again, this is a team game, and if our guys click, who knows what can happen. This is my list:
5.-9.Kings, Minesota, Seattle, Utah, Golden State
I am still to be sold out on our awfully small roster. I guess Petrie should be trusted to know what he was doing but...Expect Yao Ming and Mutombo to kill us on the inside. Unless we unleash Luke, that is
. To be completely honest, looking at all these rosters in the WC, it is entirely possible we might not even make the playoffs. Then again, this is a team game, and if our guys click, who knows what can happen. This is my list:
- San Antonio
5.-9.Kings, Minesota, Seattle, Utah, Golden State
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BobbyJ_for3!
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We should absolutely be higher than the suns, no doubt. after losing three starters and getting their game slowed way down, they may be similar to the Mavs of years past, altho not loaded with the same kind of talent. THus, they are 6-9 material, at most. The kings only key player lost since last year is Bobby J, and he didn't play much of last year...we possibly added two starters (wells, SAR), a quality bench player (hart) and have everyone healthy to make our bench a bench, not pushing them to be starters (thomas, skinner). The two real questions about this season are if the new players can click with the old and vice versa, and if Adelman can utilize all the talent to the maximum amount possible.
BobbyJ_for3! said:
Agreed on Suns placement. But I think for the most part on the season, they're going to go with a small, active, athletic line-up of: Nash/Bell/James Jones/Marion/KT
So far in pre-season that's worked well from a team-stand-point and what they've been doing the most. I've seen a couple of their games. Also goes with their "high high scoring will still be there" motto.
But for the most balanced and regular-type line-up, I think they should go with: Nash/Bell/Marion/Kur-T/Burke (Burke's not a bad big from what I've read).
Shawn Marion's going to have a big year (yeah he does every year, but bigger now because of Amare out for awhile).
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ONEZERO
Guest
frankie said:You guys are right, it's gonna be an interesting season, with so many teams loaded with talent. It's gonna come down to coaching, more than any other season in last few years. And to the team chemistry.
I am still to be sold out on our awfully small roster. I guess Petrie should be trusted to know what he was doing but...Expect Yao Ming and Mutombo to kill us on the inside. Unless we unleash Luke, that is
To be completely honest, looking at all these rosters in the WC, it is entirely possible we might not even make the playoffs. Then again, this is a team game, and if our guys click, who knows what can happen. This is my list:
2.-4.Denver, Houston, Dalas
- San Antonio
5.-9.Kings, Minesota, Seattle, Utah, Golden State
U HAVE NO PACIFIC DIVISION TEAM IN THE TOP 3.
captain bill
All-Star
Rankings can be in terms of how good teams are, not just playoff seeds. Don't get so worked up about it. At this point, it is very difficult to call anything out west aside from the Spurs will be good. The Suns and Kings went through some major changes, and it is impossible to say exactly how good they will be. The Lakers are a question mark, as are the Wolves, Clippers, and Warriors. Everyone counts out the Sonics (again), despite the fact that they are returning the same team as last year that got to the second round. Yeah, they won't play against a hobbled team in the first round and have to compete against a rejuvenated Nuggets team for a division that was handed to them last year, but you certainly shouldn't be counting them out. The Jazz could jump up and suprise them. And any team is liable to pull a Minnesota and fall flat. So- getting riled up over preseason rankings is pointless, especially with the regular season now 10 days away. Just a little more waiting left...
stevetaebo said:
Idiots? Come on, isn't that taking the whole idea of pre-season rankings a little too seriously? It's not like ANYTHING is based on those rankings.
I mean honestly...who cares what SI thinks? I know the players don't look at those things and go, "Aw, crap. We're only ranked #6. We're doomed."
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Hey, wait. Could that be the REAL meaning of that garish looking giant 6 out front of Arco? Or is it really a hidden tribute to our own 6th?????
Fear the Putin
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its ok....let us fly under the radar and then jump out in May with 60+ wins
kingsfan916
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i think it is the whole league because san antonio was #1 and Miami was #2 i don't think anyone can beat Miami in the eastONEZERO said:
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