Should Kings pursue Derek Fisher?

[BMiller52]

Well from what I hear he's considering Mia, Chi and SA. Not sure how we'd make it on that list.

But aside from that, no. Barely offers anything at this point. On top of that, given our new style which in itself makes me want to puke, is exactly the system Fisher should stay away from. Fast breaking, gunning small ball might just be the worst possible fit for him. Also, I don't think he was ever that good at anything besides spot up shooting under pressure. He and Horry benefited incredibly from the star power on the Lakers, yet never themselves did much more than hit a few big shots off kickouts. If Fisher had at one time been great at breaking down defenses and creating for others, I might feel differently. But he just passed halfcourt and dumped it off to Kobe/Shaq.

This. His game doesn't fit our team and I don't think he'd sign with us anyway, plus he's 37.

 

[eflat]

Wow, we could have Derek Fisher *and* Bill Walton.

 

[VF21]

I wouldn't compare Fisher/Vlade because Fisher coming here at this point of his career isn't in the same vicinity as Vlade when he came here. BUT I would like him for his veteran presence though...we need it! And yes I KNOW its Derek F'n Fisher from THAT team, but you can't hate on his experience. He would be a great vet for our kids to look up to...oh, and ya GOTTA love the irony, too!

That was my thought.

Thanks to those who at least gave a little thought and a legitimate response.

 

[Vlade4GM]

No, he's one of the worst players in the NBA and I can't stand him. He's arrogant, self-congratulatory, and has an entitlement complex. I can't stand phonies like him.

 

[est.1999]

He's the biggest phony out there. That whole thing with his daughter about LA being the only place with the right doctors for his daughter's illness was flat out cold hearted and selfish. The Jazz could have traded him to NY or something, but he set them up to release him in order for him to sign back with the Lakers.

 

[Bricklayer]

I actually answered this yes. But only if he is for some bizarre reason ok with it. My only theory on that is that if he wanted to stay in Cali and not have to move. Kind of like Vlade back in the day.

And btw I detest Derek Fisher. But he clearly has some of what this team desperately needs to absorb.

 

[swisshh]

Fisher has already said he is looking for a championship run.

Maybe the Spurs will sign him just to make sure he doesn't dagger them with some other playoff team.

 

[xyrin]

That was my thought.

Thanks to those who at least gave a little thought and a legitimate response.

So it is only thoughtful and legitimate if they agree with you?

I gave it a lot of thought when I say: "No, Fisher is not right for the Kings." Good luck keeping a player who wants another championship around on the team. He would never sign for us for that reason alone.

 

[mac]

So it is only thoughtful and legitimate if they agree with you?

I gave it a lot of thought when I say: "No, Fisher is not right for the Kings." Good luck keeping a player who wants another championship around on the team. He would never sign for us for that reason alone.

Oh stop it with the attention seeking, mods are wrong crap. Its pretty darn clear she meant replies that actually gave a proper argument, like he's not a good fit, he wouldn't want to be here, he's too old, can't accept having someone from THE lakers etc. As opposed to multiple one word or phrase responses.

 

[xyrin]

Oh stop it with the attention seeking, mods are wrong crap. Its pretty darn clear she meant replies that actually gave a proper argument, like he's not a good fit, he wouldn't want to be here, he's too old, can't accept having someone from THE lakers etc. As opposed to multiple one word or phrase responses.

A white knight appears! I did keep my post constructive with reasoning behind it though.

When you suggest that a 37 year-old Fisher might have the chance of becoming what Vlade was for our team, you are baiting posts like that. Fisher is one of the true Kings-killers and is barely capable of playing anymore at his age. I'm sorry, but if she is joining in the nonconstructive bashing of a poster in another topic for having what she thinks is a stupid idea, then she needs to be able to handle some of her own medicine when a majority disagrees with her.

 

[The Hammer]

No, he's one of the worst players in the NBA and I can't stand him. He's arrogant, self-congratulatory, and has an entitlement complex. I can't stand phonies like him.

So you're saying he's a Laker?

 

[xyrin]

So you're saying he's a Laker?

Definitely. And I never want that to be an influence on the young kings. When Kobe calls you a great teammate, you know you're doing something wrong.

 

[Vlade4GM]

So you're saying he's a Laker?

My problem with Fisher isn't that he's a Laker, so don't try to lump me in with that crowd.

 

[Padrino]

a few folks in this thread are posting in very poor taste. of all lakers to bash across the last decade, fish quite possibly deserves it the least. i can understand kings' fans' desires not to see a laker from that particular era signing in sacramento, but some of the defamation on display here is a bit immature. by all accounts, derek fisher is a consummate professional, a great teammate, a vocal leader, and a worthy locker room presence...

that said, bringing him to sacramento would be nothing short of an impotent signing. the kings need veteran talent and leadership to supplement all of their youth, but utility is the important concept here, and fish is 37 years old. he really doesn't have much utility left, and the eventual extinction of such a dinosaur really isn't worth whatever you get out of bringing him over, because you're back at square one the minute he gets injured/retires/is traded to a contender/whatever...

 

[Kingster]

No, but I can definitely see Fisher being an excellent coach down the line.

 

[Mass]

I'll pass, he is too old. Even if he is a Laker, I don't hate him. He's always been a professional and nice person.

If I have to guess where he will sign, I put my dollar on OKC.

 

[Section 101]

I'll pass, he is too old. Even if he is a Laker, I don't hate him. He's always been a professional and nice person.

If I have to guess where he will sign, I put my dollar on OKC.

Professionals show up to their new teams when they are traded. They don't use their daughters illness to get out of contract to return to their old team.

 

[Mass]

Professionals show up to their new teams when they are traded. They don't use their daughters illness to get out of contract to return to their old team.

That's true, but how do you know it was an excuse and not a real thing? Just a horrible person could use his daughter's illness for his own interests, I don't think he's that kind of person.

 

[mac]

Professionals show up to their new teams when they are traded. They don't use their daughters illness to get out of contract to return to their old team.

This was after a good season with them mind you ... But oh well if you choose to want to believe such things it's your call.

 

[kennadog]

So it is only thoughtful and legitimate if they agree with you?

Wow, that was a large leap to an insupportable conclusion. Some posts are clearly more thought out than others, whichever side they are on.

As for me, I can't imagine that Fisher would want us.

 

[PurpleHaze]

Obviously, a big overwhelming NO vote on Derek Fisher. Seems tiny number of yes voters think it might be ok to have the ex-Lakers guard as veteran mentor on the Kings since almost no one is saying his aging basketball talent is reason enough claim him off waivers. Can someone explain to me why Fisher is such a valuable vet presence when we have Francisco Garcia on the roster (long-time vocal leader), Chuck Hayes (new solid team leader), and former Kings guard, now assistant coach Bobby Jackson (very involved mentor to rookie Isaiah Thomas, etc.)?

 

[pshn80]

My problem with Fisher isn't that he's a Laker, so don't try to lump me in with that crowd.

My problem with Fisher is not that he is a Laker or that he's not a good guy or one I dislike, I just don't like his age and playing capabilities for us. So please don't lump me in a those crowds.

 

[est.1999]

Professionals show up to their new teams when they are traded. They don't use their daughters illness to get out of contract to return to their old team.

Thank you! Seems like my comment went unnoticed.

 

[Bricklayer]

Obviously, a big overwhelming NO vote on Derek Fisher. Seems tiny number of yes voters think it might be ok to have the ex-Lakers guard as veteran mentor on the Kings since almost no one is saying his aging basketball talent is reason enough claim him off waivers. Can someone explain to me why Fisher is such a valuable vet presence when we have Francisco Garcia on the roster (long-time vocal leader), Chuck Hayes (new solid team leader), and former Kings guard, now assistant coach Bobby Jackson (very involved mentor to rookie Isaiah Thomas, etc.)?

Um, because Fisher has actually WON something? Played int he biggest games, alongside HOFs, under a HOF coach etc.? Just being old doesn't give you the ability to impart the things Fisher theoretically could.

Its much more effective to have an old guy telling Reke this is how Kobe prepares, or what Phil's philosophy was, or war stories of title games and how much fun it is to play in them, then to have Chuck or Cisco talk about that time they almost made the playoffs.

 

[Mass]

I'll pass, he is too old. Even if he is a Laker, I don't hate him. He's always been a professional and nice person.

If I have to guess where he will sign, I put my dollar on OKC.

It looks like I was right on his future destination...