Shotcharts: Boogie v. The Other Top Centers

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
So The Warriors announcers and their nonsense inspired me to go make use of some of the new niftiness buried deep under walls of useless information and poor site design over at nba.com. Specifically this question started out: where are Boogie's shots coming from? Now I watch every play of every game, and have for 4 years now with Boogie. I have a pretty good innate feel that certain numbnuts who cover other teams do not. But its still useful to see the underlying shotchart stats. And then its even more useful to be able to, with only 3 or 4 wasted clicks per player, be able to go off and compare Boogie's shotchart to that of the other top centers. It was an interesting enough little research project to warrant a thread here I decided. Lots of pretty colors to entertain.

In lots of 5, pretty much the Top 15 true centers, or close to it, with only a couple of fuzzy selections in Nene and Duncan. I omitted the PFs pretending to be centers out East and stuck with the true big men.

First 5:

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Demarcus Cousins

[57% Assisted] The man of the hour who inspired this thread, with some interesting and distinct results. First, his inside finishing results are ok now. not great, he's not a dunker. But not the low 50s he was at when he entered the league. Secondly, as anybody who has watched him knows, he's a left block player. Most post palyers have a favorite side, and that's his side of the floor. But now slide out and look at the jumpers in question. As you will see from the rest of these charts, Cousins faceup jumper from the top of the key to the elbows, is actually the single BEST faceup jumper in the league amongst the top big men. He shoots those shots at a 50% clip, which is well above the league average for any player, let alone a big. But what you will also see is that that same range of shot when taken down on either angler/wing plummets in efficiency. This is where actually watching the games explains what stats alone cannot -- baseline/angle 18 footers are not a normal part of Cousins' or the offenses' game. What those stats actually represent are those giveup shots. When he catches the ball, turns to face, and can't get anything going against his opponent, and so just settles for a long jumper, often against the clock. But of course being of the same general distance, all those shots get lumped together with the 50% work from the top of the key, and then you get outside announcers saying stupid things.

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Nikola Pekovic

[65% Assisted] So now let's take a look at the human earth mover in Minny, Nikola Pekovic. As Adelman has noted, he's limited, but he knows what he can and cannot do. In this case, what he cannot do is hit a shot, even a midrange postup, further than 8 feet from the hoop, where he like Cousins is a bit groundbound and finishes at a similar percentage.

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Joakim Noah

[57% Assisted] This is Joakim Noah, often touted as a good fit to stick next to Cousins. First of all, he's off to a really poor start this year. Secondly, he's one of several of the top centers who actually is really struggling to finish at the rim. And thirdly, for a guy with a rep as a faceup jumpshooter, he hasn't taken many at all, and the ones he has taken and hit, are form the left side of the floor, namely Cousins' side. Which actually throws into some question just how ideal a fit he would be next to Cousins. JT for instance actually shoots his jumpers from the right side of the floor.

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Tim Duncan

[58% Assisted] Here's the gory remains of poor old Tim Duncan, who finally had himself a game yesterday, but who has really struggled with efficiency thus far this year. funny thing is he's been better form the right side of the floor than the left, but taken more of his shots from the left anyway -- clearly a low bball IQ player.

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Andre Drummond

[68% Assisted] Also titled 154 dunks and layup attempts, and 1 oops from each other part of the floor. Grrr. I'm still not over it. In fact far from getting over it I think I just get madder every day as Drummond's numbers keep growing.
 
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Second 5:

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Pau Gasol

[55% Assisted] Now here's another very skilled guy of course. But there's really only one spot around the perimeter where he should be taking a jumpshot, and that sweet zone apparently extends all the way out to 3pt range. (note btw that his sweet spot justifies my semi-suggestion about getting him the offseason -- its perfectly positioned as a Cousins counter). He's been taking shots at a mediocre pace from all angles, but the interesting thing here is a guy always renowned for those long arms around the rim is actually shooting at a sub-50% clip in there so far this year. That's odd for a guy with touch. Age doesn't make you shorter.

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Marc Gasol

[69% Assisted] And so here's Pau's also very skilled brother. Interesting things there are that you always think of Marc Gasol as a big guy with a faceup jumper, but really its been very inefficient this year. Where he has done well is right at the rim (and at his size, he should). But of course when you look at his attempts in there even preinjury they are just a fraction of the attempts of the big post mashers like Cousins, Pekovic, Howard etc.

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Roy Hibbert

[57% Assisted] Of course Hibbert isn't out there for his offense, but its an interesting chart for a 7'2" dude. He's actually a decent jumpshooter, who rarely takes them, and comparatively more efficient with midrange post moves than he is at the rim, where he has really struggled as his lack of balance seems to outweigh his huge size.

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Nene

[69% Assisted] Not much to note here besides Nene just being a skilled player who seems to show no preference for any one spot or angle. He can come at you from anywhere. about the only real note is his preference for left angle jumpers over right, and the fact that he's not making them.

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Al Jefferson

[56% Assisted] Big Al takes more shots from the left, but makes more shots from the right. Thus far this season that range that he has steadily improved just has not been there.
 
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Third 5:

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Dwight Howard

[50% Assisted] Hundreds of hours of work with Hakeem, and Dwight is still pretty easy to find. Surprisingly not much more efficient than Boogie inside this year, as I think his inefficient post moves cancel out the dunks.

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Nikola Vucevic

[60% Assisted] Showing a strong right side preference. Too bad he isn't mobile enough to stick next to Cousins.

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Brook Lopez

[65% Assisted] Really Boogie's only competition for best offensive center at this point, he doesn't have any real range up top, and like Vucevic favors attacking from the right.

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Spencer Hawes

[80% Assisted] Want to see an interesting chart, just check out ole Flutter himself. With the freedome to shoot threes now, he's actually largely abandoned the midrange jumeprs where Boogie excels, but he is REALLY stroking the threes in the early season. Furthermore Soggy has even been efficient finishing inside. Who woulda thunk?

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DeAndre Jordan

[75% Assisted] And finally here's a haha making even Drummond's chart look diversified. 117 alley oop attempts. Surprsingly really that he only converts inside at a 3% higher rate than Cousins.
 
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I was certainly wrong about Drummond. He could have been a great fit next to Cousins. As for Cousins his shot selection looks a lot like Webbers from what I remember. Those elbow jumpers at high % and a lot of it inside. That's where he should be taking all of his shots, either inside or at the elbows.
 
Nice graphics.
Think you could put up how many of their makes are of the assisted variety in your notes below the charts. I think that stat has a good amount of meaning when talking about bigs who find most of their baskets close to the rim. I would expect guys like Cousins/Jefferson/Lopez to have a much lower assisted rate compared to Jordan/Drummond.
 
very interesting, especially seeing how inefficient some of the top guys are. Pek, specifically, I'd have expected to be better. one thing that might be interesting to add is that Cuz is currently shooting 2 pullup jumpers per game and hitting them at below 20%. that shot is probably the one he should cut out the most.
 
very interesting, especially seeing how inefficient some of the top guys are. Pek, specifically, I'd have expected to be better. one thing that might be interesting to add is that Cuz is currently shooting 2 pullup jumpers per game and hitting them at below 20%. that shot is probably the one he should cut out the most.

If he cut out everything except elbow jumpers and post stuff, DMC would be shooting > 50%
 
I would never tell Boogie to quit taking outside jumpers. He has good mechanics. Every big man since the beginning of time (hyperbole much?) has improved his outside shot as he has matured even on past the thirties. Just an opinion.
 
Nice graphics.
Think you could put up how many of their makes are of the assisted variety in your notes below the charts. I think that stat has a good amount of meaning when talking about bigs who find most of their baskets close to the rim. I would expect guys like Cousins/Jefferson/Lopez to have a much lower assisted rate compared to Jordan/Drummond.

Assisted baskets are a little deceptive for Drummond. He's a beast on the offensive boards and gets a few baskets each night on bunnies and putback dunks which are going to bring his assisted baskets back down.

Also, Jennings and Smoove would have to not shoot the ball to get him an assist. (Okay, so Jennings is averaging 8.4 assists per game this year. I'll scale back my chucker jokes about him a little bit.)
 
If he cut out everything except elbow jumpers and post stuff, DMC would be shooting > 50%
Also if he had player capable of giving him a spoon feed every now and than like everyone else on the list has his FG% would go up a lot. That's what makes Cousins more impressive than anyone else,aside from Nene/Duncan and to a lesser extent Jefferson all those guys rely on getting easy buckets from great PG play. We have never had that for Cousins that's why to me FG% are and will always be overrated.
 
Wasn't that the whole point of getting Vasquez, though? A "pure" PG who could get the ball in to Cousins where he can be most effective?
 
Thanks for adding the assisted basket information.
If you look at the # of shots taken at the rim, the conversion rate of those shots, as well as how many of their shots get assisted really Cousins' only competition for 'most dominant in the post' would be Dwight Howard. And Howard has the luxury of having Harden and Chandler to really space the floor and cause defense to not cheat as much in one-on-one match-ups.

Simply put, DMC is a beast down there.
 
Great post, graphics leading to insightful analysis.
Very interesting how Spencer Hawes fits in as the perfect (shotchart) complement to Boogie - who'da thunk?
(Certainly not any KF's who demonized him and packed his bags outta town)
 
Good post, but since when does Noah have the rep of a faceup jumpshooter? He's used a highpost playmaker, but he gets most of his baskets on cuts (Boozer is a good passer aswell) and offensive rebounds.
 
I wonder how hilarious/efficient it would be to have Hawes feeding Boogie in the post.

Since you said you took out the faux-centers in the East, I looked up Al Horford. He and Boogie would be a deadly combo.
 
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I've always sort of wondered whether trading Hawes to Philly netted us DMC, though. Maybe Philly thought they were free to go Turner after securing Hawes for the C? Just me rambling, I guess.
 
I wonder how hilarious/efficient it would be to have Hawes feeding Boogie in the post.

Since you said you took out the faux-centers in the East, I looked up Al Horford. He and Boogie would be a deadly combo.

Well it would depend how we intend to use them ... Hawes has certainly shown the ability to be a good rebounder and decent defender when he wants to, and he's obviously got the outside shot down as well. We know he's a good passer from the high post. The two of them could probably make a pretty good combo but you'd need to shore up your perimeter defense.
 
Didn't want to create a new thread to ask this question; Who still thinks Cousins is a poor defensive player? I for one do not. He's not making an all defensive team this year but he isn't bad.
 
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