Save Rick Adelman

ReinadelosReys

ReinadelosReys

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Why? Why not! This man has done nothing but give everything he has to this team and franchise. I've always believed that it is the coach's job to put the team in a position to win and he has done that time and time again. Sure, the argument that 7 years is about 3 years too many, and I would normally agree with that if this team didn't just go through a face-lift. A whole new team, with a new leader to head the locker room and the team on the court. A new leader who likes this coach, I might add.

The most successful coach in franchise history deserves to give this new team another go-around. Has that been the argument the past 7 years; give Rick a healthy team, give him another chance? Sure, but this time the opportunity is undeniable.
 
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R1LOVER

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I'm out, I like him, but as with webber, peja and doug, it's time for a change. :)
 
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SacTownKing4Life

G-League
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Bring back the Rick after Artest was brought in and the Rick in the playoffs. I liked the Rick who would bench his starters if they were playing bad, focused more on defense. I'm all for bringing this Rick back.
 
VF21

VF21

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Nice. Such class...

:rolleyes:

If you think it's time for him to go, fine. But to continue to deny everything the man has done for this franchise is just ridiculous.

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Don't let the doorknob hit you on the way out Adelman...
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Your signature demeans you.
 
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Troy

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I doubted Rick a little with his easy going nature, but the guy has been the best coach we have ever had. Artest also thinks highly of him enough to forego his salary for Rick and Bonzi, so that should tell you something. I also doubted Rick with the new system of defense that we have adopted with Artest and Bonzi and gone away from the Princeton run and gun system. I was a Phil Jackson fan, growing up a Bulls fan and seeing probably the greatest team assembled in Jordan and Co., but this Kings team is fun to watch and has done great in their mini transitional year while still being competitive and really game the Spurs a run for their $.

Maloofs: Open up the checkbooks/contracts for Bonzi and Rick
 
Ryle

Ryle

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Rain man said:
Wow- tell us what you really think about a man, who whether you think he made all the right choices or not, helped make Sacramento baseketball relevant.

Save Rick!
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#4 and #21 basically ran those teams and now a certain #93 runs the team.....Regardless of what anyone says coaches do more to lose games(in game adjustments, horrible play calling out of a timeout) then they do to win.
 
VF21

VF21

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Troy said:
I doubted Rick a little with his easy going nature, but the guy has been the best coach we have ever had. Artest also thinks highly of him enough to forego his salary for Rick and Bonzi, so that should tell you something. I also doubted Rick with the new system of defense that we have adopted with Artest and Bonzi and gone away from the Princeton run and gun system. I was a Phil Jackson fan, growing up a Bulls fan and seeing probably the greatest team assembled in Jordan and Co., but this Kings team is fun to watch and has done great in their mini transitional year while still being competitive and really game the Spurs a run for their $.

Maloofs: Open up the checkbooks/contracts for Bonzi and Rick
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It was a nice comment by Artest but players aren't allowed to waive their salaries so it wasn't anything more.

Rick Adelman has always contended he could run other offenses and I think we saw in the playoffs that he can. It certainly wasn't his fault that a couple of key players he depended on just didn't bring the goods.
 
Ryle

Ryle

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VF21 said:
Nice. Such class...

:rolleyes:

If you think it's time for him to go, fine. But to continue to deny everything the man has done for this franchise is just ridiculous.



Your signature demeans you.
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Please, we aren't talking about Mother Theresa here. He is paid to coach a basketball team(quiet nicely I might add) and if the Maloofs choose to go in another direction I am all for it. I'm just tired of seeing the same problems every year and it's obvious the Maloofs seem to be in agreement and that's why they inquired about Phil Jackson last year.

Unfortunately I think Ron Artest saved him this year and we will probably be subject to a few more years of underachieving with Adelman.

At least the Maloofs didn't raise my ticket prices this year :D
 
Padrino

Padrino

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Ryle said:
#4 and #21 basically ran those teams and now a certain #93 runs the team.....Regardless of what anyone says coaches do more to lose games(in game adjustments, horrible play calling out of a timeout) then they do to win.
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this is just an outright false line of thinking. yes, a coach can make a poor in game adjustment or call a horrible play out of a timeout, but that same coach can also make a brilliant in game adjustment or call an extremely effective play after a timeout. a coach's poor play-calling can be a huge factor in a loss, but its ludicrous to say that a coach's excellent play-calling does't equate to wins. the game 2 loss was a result of poor defense on the players' parts in the final sequence. the game 3 win was a result of good defense on the players' parts in the final sequence and a miraculous layup. both that loss and that victory can be attributed to the players ineffectiveness or effectiveness. however, games 1 and 5, which were blowouts, were the result of one coach outcoaching the other. pop was more prepared than adelman in game 1, and he had his players out of the gate firing. adelman was better prepared for game 5, and made the kind of adjustments necessary to outcoach one of the best coaches in the league. adelman can coach...and he often coaches his team to victory. opponents of rick adelman simply like to gloss over this fact and attribute wins to players and losses to the coach. the man can do no right in your eyes, ryle...and i could care less either way...but the man deserves more credit and respect than you give him.
 
VF21

VF21

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Ryle said:
Please, we aren't talking about Mother Theresa here. He is paid to coach a basketball team(quiet nicely I might add) and if the Maloofs choose to go in another direction I am all for it. I'm just tired of seeing the same problems every year and it's obvious the Maloofs seem to be in agreement and that's why they inquired about Phil Jackson last year.

Unfortunately I think Ron Artest saved him this year and we will probably be subject to a few more years of underachieving with Adelman.

At least the Maloofs didn't raise my ticket prices this year :D
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No one ever said Rick Adelman is perfect. But he is worthy of more respect that what your signature shows. That kind of comment IMHO should be reserved for the Tony Massenbergs of the NBA.
 
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HndsmCelt

HndsmCelt

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For thefolks like Ryle and Game Ball who would like to see change at the helm here are some things to think about. Go ahead and replace Adelman but your replacment ought to be able to:
1. Deal with the volitle personalities of Artest and Bonzi (or do you want to get rid of them as well) Before you say this is simple look at how past coaches have delt with them and what the results were.

2. Show a storng ablity to coach paly off teams. Im sure some people would belive that a new young coach can be jsut as effective or even more so, but with out a track record you are throwing the team to the mercy of a whim... championships are jsut not won that way.

3. Devise offensive plans that exploit the match up problems the Kings line up presents opponents. Again while a guy with no track record MAY fit the bill he also MAY NOT. of the active coaches in the NBA I can only think of two or three that can do this.

Sorry I don't see anyone availalbe that fit these three criteria. I could be wrong but I belive that for the Maloofs to let Rick go after the way he got this (and the 7 previous teams) in to the play offs it is tantamount to switching Horses midstream... just not smart.

By firing RA they also run the serious risk of losing Geoff Petrie and some the loyal coaching staff (read Pete Carill) thereby handing this team over to whole new managment and coaching... jsut not smart at all.
 
FrenchCanadianKING

FrenchCanadianKING

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VF21 said:
It was a nice comment by Artest but players aren't allowed to waive their salaries so it wasn't anything more.

Rick Adelman has always contended he could run other offenses and I think we saw in the playoffs that he can. It certainly wasn't his fault that a couple of key players he depended on just didn't bring the goods.
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Or that we played against a team that will one day be looked upon as a dynsaty and who is right now quite possibly the best team in basketball.
 
SacTownKid

SacTownKid

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VF21 said:
Nice. Such class...

:rolleyes:

If you think it's time for him to go, fine. But to continue to deny everything the man has done for this franchise is just ridiculous.



Your signature demeans you.
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I actually thought the timing of it was perfect, very funny. Mean, but funny.

But I am down, SAVE RICK!!!
 
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Rome

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Why is it that when someone has an opinion different then others they seem to attack the poster as much as possible. That is why I cannot post my opinion.
 
HndsmCelt

HndsmCelt

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Rome said:
Why is it that when someone has an opinion different then others they seem to attack the poster as much as possible. That is why I cannot post my opinion.
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It's been my experience that when people on this board disagree there is not probalm, jsut heated debate. The problems come when posters are rude or mean about it.

Although I am sure that Slim and I have HAD to agreed at least once or twice, it seems that MOST of the time we argue with eachother's posts. Neither of us have ever had to be repremanded, warned or ganged up one. Although I cannot speak for Slim I have never felt attaced, or disrespected and I have always tried to be repectfull in return. This is just one example of two posters disagreeing (often) with no fear of being 'ganged up on."
 
Mr. S£im Citrus

Mr. S£im Citrus

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Rome said:
Why is it that when someone has an opinion different then others they seem to attack the poster as much as possible...
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Proof?

I presume that you're talking about Ryle. If you would be so kind as to direct me to one post in this thread that's evidence of Ryle the poster being "attacked." Just one.


Rome said:
... That is why I cannot post my opinion.
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I call BS on this.
 
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