Sacramento City Clerk Rejects STOP's Arena Subsidy Ballot Measure

Ryan Lillis ‏@Ryan_Lillis 3m
BREAKING: Sacramento City Clerk has rejected STOP’s arena subsidy ballot measure, citing multiple legal issues with petitions.

Tony Bizjak ‏@TonyBizjak 3m
Sacramento City Clerk rejects all arena petitions: “I’ve never seen a petition with as many flaws as this one.” Courtroom likely next step

Tony Bizjak ‏@TonyBizjak 4m
Breaking: City Clerk rejects arena petitions, citing 9 versions & failure to include “enacting clause.”

Ryan Lillis ‏@Ryan_Lillis 3m
Sacbee - Sacramento City Clerk rejects arena subsidy measure from ballot http://a.sacb.ee/O7AcxbF
 
I'm sure that STOP will want to take this to court.
I guess the question is: Can they afford to take it to court if the outcome will probably still go against them?
Will lawyers work pro-bono for a case that will certainly get news, but more than likely not be successful?

But this is a step in the right direction to be sure.
 
good to hear. STOP doesn't have much of a case in court, the arena plans are developing on schedule, and the kings themselves are very slowly moving in the right direction. things are looking up for kings fans...

:)
 
I'm sure that STOP will want to take this to court.
I guess the question is: Can they afford to take it to court if the outcome will probably still go against them?
Will lawyers work pro-bono for a case that will certainly get news, but more than likely not be successful?

But this is a step in the right direction to be sure.
Hopefully, all of the northern douche's money is spent and the faucet is turned off permanently.
 
I'm sure that STOP will want to take this to court.
I guess the question is: Can they afford to take it to court if the outcome will probably still go against them?
Will lawyers work pro-bono for a case that will certainly get news, but more than likely not be successful?

But this is a step in the right direction to be sure.

They can take it to court but they don't have a leg to stand on. Election Code violations are cut and dried and they made several key ones. It won't get very far at all.
 
And now...the legal battle. I think it's pretty obvious how this one will go, it's just a question of how long it's tied up in court before getting shot down once and for all.
 
We all figured it was coming to this, but it is good to get confirmation. Sweet.

Legal battle may be coming (likely), but should be easy to slap down.

:)
 
You guys are also missing a bigger piece.

The petition is an improper way to change the city charter.

That was the other ace in the hole the arena supporters have had all along. It was hinted at previously but not really stressed. STOP did pretty much everything wrong and had Chris Hansen not stuck his grimy little fingers into the pie it would have been over a long time ago. There's no way this goes any further in a court of law.
 
That was the other ace in the hole the arena supporters have had all along. It was hinted at previously but not really stressed. STOP did pretty much everything wrong and had Chris Hansen not stuck his grimy little fingers into the pie it would have been over a long time ago. There's no way this goes any further in a court of law.

Agreed. You can sue for almost anything, doesn't mean you will get very far though. ;)

I like how she just tossed them all, too. Not just some. Every. Last. One.

To quote from one of my favorite movies (playing the part of STOP here):

Cathcart: That's it man, game over man, game over! What the **** are we gonna do now? What are we gonna do?
Isaac: Maybe we could build a fire, sing a couple of songs, huh? Why don't we try that?
Cathcart: Hey, maybe you haven't been keeping up on current events, but we just got our asses kicked, pal!
 
Great news in long, long battle to get new entertainment and sports arena for Sacramento.

In a way I hope this is lesson for city voters and especially Calif voters not to constantly fall prey to every no nothing paid idiot carrying clip board at some market trying to get signatures on petition for another state or local law. The process makes occasional sense but more often that not nowadays is abused by special interests, out of state money, corrupt backers, etc. Just yesterday I was at a supermarket and within two seconds of exiting the door some scraggly looking dude asked me if I'd sign with this, "Sir, are you registered voter?" "Well, none of your business I politely replied." No matter, he then launched into his reading from script sell on something or the other. I replied walking away, "you need to clean out and reform Calif legislature since it's their job to make state laws. How about new law that says for every one they pass five have to be rescinded!" He just shrugged his shoulders looking dazed that someone might actually go after his in your face hawking gig with a reality check.

One of best quotes of all time: "The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws." ~ Tacitus (A.D. 55)
 
Dale Kasler ‏@dakasler 5m
City Clerk, in letter to STOP, says she found five different grounds for rejecting arena petitions as "insufficient."
Aaron Bruski ‏@aaronbruski 4m
Not only were the petitions rejected today, but sources say that some signature gatherers could be prosecuted for fraud.

Let the hammer fall loudly!


OH HELL YAH! DO IT! Show these sig gatherers that they cannot just trick people into signing something.... Prosecute to the fullest extent of the law.

And thank GOD the arena will be built.
 
This is from STOP's facebook page
Stop Arena Subsidy
about an hour ago
The City Clerk has bowed to pressure from the Mayor, City Manager, and Sacramento Basketball Holdings LLC (dba "the 4000") to reject the Voter Approval intitiative on technicalities. Sad. Now we have to go to court to uphold our right to vote.

I presume they can back this up with facts. :rolleyes: I wonder how much of a bankroll they have to fight this battle? Absurd. Have at it STOP. See if Hansen will kick in for the legal battle. There is no law against being stupid but you DO have to live with the consequences of being stupid.

Was that cruel? Ask me if I care. :mad:
 
I know I shouldn't read the article comments...but I can't help myself.
When you do something incorrectly and get called out on it, it's your fault. No one else's. Jeez.
 
WOO-HOO!!!!


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As the self-appointed gallant protectors of the misled masses, how much have they (STOP) wasted in terms of the general fund? What about keeping the pools open?
 
Legal analyst Michael McCann weighs in on twitter

Michael McCann ‏@McCannSportsLaw 36m
Good news for Kings: city clerk rejects anti-arena ballot measure. A judge would review clerk's decision w/deference. http://www.sacbee.com/2014/01/24/6098755/sacramento-city-clerk-rejects.html…

[URL='https://twitter.com/McCannSportsLaw']Michael McCann ‏@McCannSportsLaw 35m
@SactownKings916 Lkely standard of review by a judge reviewing Sacramento city clerk is with deference, so chances are an appeal would fail.
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Michael McCann ‏@McCannSportsLaw 6m
@mrarmchair A judge would be very reluctant to reverse Sacramento clerk on ballot issues given wide discretion accorded to clerk under law.