Sacramento/Charlotte

nbrans

nbrans

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I recognize that this may be a stretch, and so I want to preface this by saying this trade proposal assumes that:

1. Reports are true and Charlotte has soured on Gerald Wallace
2. Larry Brown is delusional
3. Michael Jordan is jealous that Isiah Thomas has cornered the market on the Worst in Basketball GM title and wants to beat him (and frankly, between Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison he's well on his way)
4. The Bobcats want to build cap room for '09 and '10
5. Sam Amick's casual inclusion of Charlotte in the teams interested in Ron Artest is accurate.

So.

Ron Artest and Shelden Williams

for

Gerald Wallace

Think this has any chance in hell of happening?
 
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nbrans said:
I recognize that this may be a stretch, and so I want to preface this by saying this trade proposal assumes that:

1. Reports are true and Charlotte has soured on Gerald Wallace
2. Larry Brown is delusional
3. Michael Jordan is jealous that Isiah Thomas has cornered the market on the Worst in Basketball GM title and wants to beat him (and frankly, between Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison he's well on his way)
4. The Bobcats want to build cap room for '09 and '10
5. Sam Amick's casual inclusion of Charlotte in the teams interested in Ron Artest is accurate.

So.

Ron Artest and Shelden Williams

for

Gerald Wallace

Think this has any chance in hell of happening?
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bringing Gdub back to sactown? i wouldn't mind that happening. don't think charlotte would be willing to do that tho
 
I thought about this, but didn't have the guts to post it. :D We can hope though.
 
one of the best feasible ideas I have seen. We actually get back something we can use that we don't already have or don't just want them to expire. With Gerald Wallace you keep the tenacious defense and actually add more atheltisism and shot blocking potential. You lose post play dominating most SF but you gain more a team player not wanting to take every shot. Also Wallace has become a better shooter since his previous time with us. He also brings the same amount of heart and hustle to the court in fact sometimes to much hustle therefore getting him injured. I like this better than the Odom or Howard trade because we can actually use it toward the future and not just a pit stop until the future happens. GW would be a welcome site. Also I can once again say I was born in the same hospital as a King.
 
Uhm I just say the contract of GW. We can't get May as GW contract is bigger than Ron's. In fact GW would get roughly 50 mil over the next 5 years assuming his takes his option for his 5th year at over 11 mil. With that contract for that length of time this is something that the organization better be sure of before they make the plunge. In fact if that is offerend by the bobcats that may be the reason GP shys away from it. GW is good and all but, I am just not sure he is worth that much.
 
Based on those assumptions, this trade is very possible. This would be a dream trade for the Kings that is at least within the realm of possibilities.
 
This is a tough call for me. In a way, it's like Petrie trying to make amends for getting rid of Wallace in the first place. If the Kings were to pull this off though, they'd have a nice young core built with their own draft picks for the last 6 years. I wish this had legs... or a semblance.
 
I'd love to see this happen, even though the chances of it are low. Wallace plays defense, athletic, and younger than Artest. I'm all for it.
 
Id like a trade like

Wallace
Morrison
1st round

for
Artest
salmons
2nd round

why?

Judging Wallace he is an all out player he gives his body every game he plays, if he goes down we dont have a SF, Morrison i dont know if he is a bust yet, but hes bound to erupt sooner or later, the guy may not be athletic but hes got heart this guy can be our 1-2 punch off the bench together with garcia.

this makes charlotte a Playoff team with Jrich at the SG, Artest at SF and salmons at the 6th man. plus they get rid of gerald wallace which whom they are in bad terms with according to rumors
 
why trade salmons? that way if he goes down we have garcia and salmons. Morrison hell no he is a bust at best. Pure shooters only work on a complete team if the make it at all.
 
Aenadin said:
Id like a trade like

Wallace
Morrison
1st round

for
Artest
salmons
2nd round
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Maybe it's true that Charlotte and Wallace have strained relations, but he's he's a young stud SF who's locked up for four guaranteed years for about $38M total. If they trade him, they won't have to give away a first rounder to do it. They'll GET one. Or two.
 
ok if we take out the first round pick and second round picks that are involved

the only knock on wallace is his durability to stay healthy... outside wallace and Jrich i dont see any body in the charlotte bobcats that are offensively polished... okafor is no offensive player hes a defensive player and that guy too is plagued with injuries.. well we know what the knock on artest is... but nevertheless he is a sturdy player

we get back gerald wallace who im pretty sure will be welcomed by a fanbase, morrison who can be a bust or another potential 6th man. but i wont give up on him just yet.. this guy is pretty smart and may find a way to flourish

while charlotte tries the artest experiment, where in if it bombs they get a top pick again im pretty sure and they can resign another player of greater or equal value...
 
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If this offer or anything even remotely similar is on the table, Petrie better pull the trigger before the other GM changes his mind
 
Can we assume that Felton is not in Charlotte's future plans with their selection of Augustin in the draft? How about Wallace and Felton for either Artest/Salmons/1st or Artest/Sheldon/Douby/1st?
 
ITSCdanimal said:
Can we assume that Felton is not in Charlotte's future plans with their selection of Augustin in the draft? How about Wallace and Felton for either Artest/Salmons/1st or Artest/Sheldon/Douby/1st?
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I thought the same thing. Even its a must that GP include KT before he makes a deal. That would work also. Felton + GW for KT and Ron. Now back to Felton. why would a pg putting up 14pts 7ast in only his 3rd year not be in your future plans? I don't understand the Augustine pick but, this lineup looks cool to me.


Beno/Felton/Singletary
Martin/Garcia/Salmons
Wallace/Salmons/Garcia
Moore/Thompson/Williams
Miller/Hawes/Moore

3 spots left for Douby, and SAR in a suit leave the other spot open for a later trade.
 
Entity said:
I thought the same thing. Even its a must that GP include KT before he makes a deal. That would work also. Felton + GW for KT and Ron. Now back to Felton. why would a pg putting up 14pts 7ast in only his 3rd year not be in your future plans? I don't understand the Augustine pick but, this lineup looks cool to me.


Beno/Felton/Singletary
Martin/Garcia/Salmons
Wallace/Salmons/Garcia
Moore/Thompson/Williams
Miller/Hawes/Moore

3 spots left for Douby, and SAR in a suit leave the other spot open for a later trade.
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Yeah, I agree with you on the Felton thing. I can only guess that they drafted Augustin with the best player on their board available idea. My only problem with the pursuit of Wallace, who I happen to love, is his tendecy toward injury. He brings a lot to the table that I like, but you just can't ignore his past history. However, we do have plenty of backup at that position.
 
To futher hi-lite my concerns about Wallace, here are his games played each year averages.

2001-02 - 54 games played - Sacramento

2002-03 - 47 games played - Sacramento

2003-04 - 37 games played - Sacramento

2004-05 - 70 games played - Charlotte

2005-06 - 55 games played - Charlotte

2006-07 - 72 games played - Charlotte

2007-08 - 62 games played - Charlotte

Now in his first two seasons some of the games he didn't play in, were the coaches decision. But even in those two seasons he was nagged with small injuries. The upside is that he only turns 26 years old this month. I would love to have him despite the risk. I just want everyone to be aware that it is a risk.
 
nbrans said:
I recognize that this may be a stretch, and so I want to preface this by saying this trade proposal assumes that:

1. Reports are true and Charlotte has soured on Gerald Wallace
2. Larry Brown is delusional
3. Michael Jordan is jealous that Isiah Thomas has cornered the market on the Worst in Basketball GM title and wants to beat him (and frankly, between Kwame Brown and Adam Morrison he's well on his way)
4. The Bobcats want to build cap room for '09 and '10
5. Sam Amick's casual inclusion of Charlotte in the teams interested in Ron Artest is accurate.

So.

Ron Artest and Shelden Williams

for

Gerald Wallace

Think this has any chance in hell of happening?
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Sure it does. The question is whether you want to take on Gerald Wallace's 5 year, $50 million deal. That's a big, big commitment for a guy who misses 10-20 games every year with injuries and relies primarily on his athleticism to be effective. The other issue is that Wallace isn't a good jump shooter, and the Kings historically won't take on (or play) players without a jump shot, no matter what their other qualities are. This of course is also why the Kings are never very athletic.

On the flipside, I think Wallace is the most entertaining player in the NBA. His athleticism is just ridiculous. Wallace is only the third player in NBA history to average 2 blocks and 2 steals in a season. The other two are Hakeem Olajuwan and David Robinson. Watching Gerald Wallace play basketball is like watching Evil Knievel jump cars on his motorcycle - it's either going to be a spectacular play or a spectacular disaster.

Do I trade for Wallace? I don't think so. He's had multiple concussions and a bunch of other injuries. If he had three years left on his deal, I would do it. If his deal had $30 million left instead of $50 million, I do it. But we have so much dead salary on the roster right now that 5 years and $50 million is too much money to risk being in this position again.
 
NewMonkey said:
The other issue is that Wallace isn't a good jump shooter, and the Kings historically won't take on (or play) players without a jump shot, no matter what their other qualities are. This of course is also why the Kings are never very athletic.
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That's actually part of the reason Wallace isn't here anymore to begin with.
 
In fairness to Wallace, his jump shot has improved dramaticly since he left the Kings. I still wouldn't call him a rifleman from the outside, but you have to respect his shot.
 
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lol




But on a serious note, I think if we were to put Felton in the deal it would be a absolute STEAL!!!!

It would be great to see a Beno/Felton 1 2 punch. With Singletary as the knockout (just got done watching a fight lol)
 
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