Sac/Chi/GS

[BMiller52]

Okay I posted a similar trade that's harder to read in another topic but I want to give it it's own topic... Here goes.

The Kings trade:

Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Fransisco Garcia
Vitaly Potapenko
Pick #19

The Kings get:

Adonal Foyle
Darius Songaila
Pick #2

The Bulls trade:

Darius Songaila
Othella Harrington
Pick #2

The Bulls get:

Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Pick #19
Pick #9

The Warriors trade:

Adonal Foyle
Pick #9

The Warriors get:

Vitaly Potapenko
Fransisco Garcia
Othella Harrington

Why the Kings do it: The kings get the 2nd pick so we can draft Aldridge who would fit PERFECTLY. On offense Aldridge has some nice post moves and a good turn around jump shot. On defense he is a decent man to man defender and a good shotblocker. He can rebound the ball and he can run up and down the court.

Adonal Foyle is also a perfect fit behind Brad because he can block shots, rebound, and play man to man defense. Foyle has played for Eric Musselman before so he would know the coach.

Bringing Songaila back brings some decent defense, hustle, and mid range shooting off the bench which we could use.

The kings line up/rotation after this trade:
Bibby/Hart/Price
Wells/Martin
Artest/Wells/Williamson
Aldridge/Songaila
Brad/Foyle

obviously we still need a back up PG and another swingmen but hopefully we can pick those guys up with the MLE.

Why Chicago does it: They will probably sign Ben Wallace. Currently they don't have any post scoring and they struggled all year long to get points from their front court. SAR can give them some post scoring. They still get the 9th pick and they can still get a good player there to go with the rest of their core. Paxson is a great GM and he drafts well. He can do something with both #9 and #19. After this trade they'll have a rotation of:

Hinrich/Duhon
Gordon/Hinrich
Deng/Nocioni
SAR/Chandler
Ben/Chandler/O'bryant

that team will still have cap room. I think they could contend for a while in the east because Detroit is falling off and Miami will fall off too in a bit. Maybe SAR could teach Tyson a post move or two...

Why the Warriors do it: They desperately want to get rid of Foyle's contract because they want to give Biedrins time at C and Diogu time at PF. They need a new SF because Dunleavy is terrible. Garcia can be that SF for them. Giving up #9 is a tough price to pay but they are a pretty young team and I can't really think of any player they could get better than Cisco at #9 anyway. GSW's rotation after this:

Davis/Ellis/Fisher
Richardson/Pietrus
Garcia/Dunleavy
Murphy/Diogu
Biedrins/Taft

 

[BawLa]

Bravo. Obviously you put a little thought into this one. I like it but i'm still gonna stick with the 'draft a PG, sign/trade for a PF/C' idea.

 

[DocHolliday]

Yeah I don't want Songaila back. He's a good gritty player with a nice jumper. He just lacks quickness. In a few more years he'll be at Brad Miller speed.

 

[hammystyle]

I can't see the Warriors being able to sell this move to their fans. Even if getting rid of Foyle helps them, they just can't trade a top 10 pick for Cisco and the pupu platter.

However if it does go down, I'd rather have Ty Thomas than Aldridge with the 2nd pick. Nothing against Aldridge, but Thomas is a taller Shawn Marion or the next closest thing to Andrie Kirilenko.

 

[Packt]

Where's Kenny Thomas?

There are a handful of players the Warriors could draft that are similar to Garcia, if not better with the 9th pick. And Foyle is very expensive, but without him, they have no shotblocking. Biedrins, Diogu, Murphy aren't shotblockers. That's a frontcourt similar to ours right now. Taft is the only one who might fit that role, but he barely played this past year, and is questionable to play next.

 

[BMiller52]

Diogu was a good shotblocker in college. He's only 6'8'' but he's much better than Kenny Thomas(who I didn't count because I'd trade him for an expiring contract or cut him). If Diogu actually got more than 15 minutes per game he'd show you that he is a good shotblocker. I haven't watched Biedrins much but trust me, the GSW and their fans WANT to get rid of Adonal Foyle. They also want to get rid of Troy Murphy.


Garcia will be better than every SF they can get at #9. Seriously name the guys they could get.

 

[walker60]

Carney or Brewer. I like the deal though, maybe a tweak or two would get it done.

 

[LPKingsFan]

Good deal. But trouble is selling it to the Warriors. How badly do they want to get rid of Foyle? Also, KT disappears from the Kings' depth chart with no explanation. If we ship him for a PG (Brevin Knight) that would be a solid offseason, IMO.

 

[atxrocker]

i would do this trade. getting aldridge would be awesome.

 

[captain bill]

Why the Warriors do it: They desperately want to get rid of Foyle's contract because they want to give Biedrins time at C and Diogu time at PF. They need a new SF because Dunleavy is terrible. Garcia can be that SF for them. Giving up #9 is a tough price to pay but they are a pretty young team and I can't really think of any player they could get better than Cisco at #9 anyway.

Someone's purple glasses got glued to their head. You should really take a step back and rethink why in hell GS trades a no 9 pick for Francisco Garcia.

 

[BMiller52]

 

[BawLa]

Someone's purple glasses got glued to their head. You should really take a step back and rethink why in hell GS trades a no 9 pick for Francisco Garcia.

I could be mistaken but I think GS has done some outlandish things with their draft picks in the past.

 

[xyrin]

You HIGHLY overrate SAR. There is a HUGE drop in talent from the top 3 to the rest of the lottery. This draft is full of good role players, and the top 3 have potential to be stars. SAR is a former star, and isn't that great now. The #9 and #19 themselves would not be enough for the #2 in my opinion, and the addition of SAR won't make them change their mind.

 

[BMiller52]

 

[captain bill]

You HIGHLY overrate SAR. There is a HUGE drop in talent from the top 3 to the rest of the lottery. This draft is full of good role players, and the top 3 have potential to be stars. SAR is a former star, and isn't that great now. The #9 and #19 themselves would not be enough for the #2 in my opinion, and the addition of SAR won't make them change their mind.

I actually think the Bulls might do it, but that really depends on Chicago: this is a huge year for them. Talented young team, multiple draft picks, plenty of cap space. They can pursue FAs, go after trades, or build throught the draft. Basically, every way of building a good team is an option to them. SAR is cheap and could be a good piece as part of a bigger picture. Maybe they want to spend their money on FAs and add complementary players in the draft. (having 3 firsts is a good way to do taht). Then again, if I was in Chicago I'd say no: pick a stud with the 2, get another pick later in the first for a role player, sign good FAs and try to get pieces like SAR through minor trades or free agency. But it's not ridiculous for the bulls to do taht trade.

 

[walker60]

Haha, it's not that bad of a plan!

 

[CruzDude]

Nice fantasy post.

 

[Gary]

The Warriors are getting jipped imo. You just don't trade picks for unproven players, and players past their prime that weren't that good in their prime.

 

[Sptsjunkie]

This trade might work if the Warriors got the #19 pick from us, and we gave the Bulls Corliss' expiring contract as well. The Warriors are currently giving up too much for Cisco. However, Cisco, a pick, and two expiring contracts might be worth it. Although, it also might not, because according to one of my Warriors' fan friends (they do exist), they are over the cap for several years no matter what.

 

[hammystyle]

This trade might work if the Warriors got the #19 pick from us, and we gave the Bulls Corliss' expiring contract as well. The Warriors are currently giving up too much for Cisco. However, Cisco, a pick, and two expiring contracts might be worth it. Although, it also might not, because according to one of my Warriors' fan friends (they do exist), they are over the cap for several years no matter what.

So....
Kings get: Foyle, Songaila, #2.
Warriors get: 19, Cisco, two expiring contracts.
Bulls get: 9, SAR, expiring contract.

That's not too bad. The thing about the Warriors is its not just about being under the cap, they're in luxury cap range (especially when they need to resign Biedrins, Pietrus, and/or Diogu).