Remodeling or Rebuilding

[Jespher]

Here are two trade ideas that could work together or seperately to improve our team this year and in the future. First, some background... Zydrunas Ilgauskas just broke his ankle again, and the Cavs are desperately chasing Boston for the top seed in the Eastern Conference, so they need a center to fill that gap... Who better than Brad Miller? The Kings are floundering without a competent point guard and Jerryd Bayless is playing relatively no minutes in Portland's crowded front court, while the Blazers have to start a rookie at small forward because of their lack of depth there (they could use John Salmons there, and yes, he would contribute...). The Warriors are desperately shopping Corey Magette who just signed a massive 50+ Million dollar 5 year deal, and is looking like an injured, selfish bust, while Brandan Wright can't rebound in their system and Anthony Randolph shows elite promise but is at odds with Don Nelson. So here are the trade ideas:

Trade A (3-Way)(Sacramento/Golden State/Cleveland)

Kings outgoing

Brad Miller (To Cleveland)
Quincy Douby (to Golden State)

Kings Incoming

Corey Magette (From Golden State)
Brandan Wright (From Golden State)
Anthony Randolph (From Golden State)

Cavs Outgoing

Wally Szczerbiak (To Golden State)

Cavs Incoming

Brad Miller (From Sacramento)

Golden State Outgoing

Anthony Randolph (To Sacramento)
Brandan Wright (To Sacramento)
Corey Magette (To Sacramento)

Golden State Incoming

Wally Szczerbiak (From Cleveland)
Quincy Douby (From Sacramento)

Why Sacramento Does It: Move Miller out of the rotation to get Hawes more minutes, while bolstering our youth projects with Randolph and Wright. Solidifies the front court and wing depth while sending Brad Miller to a contender like Geoffe wants.

Why Sacramento doesn't do it: Corey Magette's contract is very very rich...

Why Cleveland Does It: To stay competitive. Brad's contract expires in the summer of LeBron, so they're not really losing much flexibility. Brad gives them reliability at the center position, especially in the weak east, and his passing and elbow jumper would be a win win alongside LeBron and his shooter minions.

Why Cleveland Doesn't Do It: Are there better offers out there for a large expiring contract? Would anyone like to give them another Pau Gasol? Besides, they're paying the luxury tax anyway... Seriously, it's a good deal for both sides

Why Golden State Does It: Cap relief and a fresh start to entice one Carlos Boozer this summer with fresh wads of money...

Why Golden State Doesn't Do It: Management gave up a lot to acquire Brandan Wright, and Anthony Randolph has the potential every GM drools over. Petty cap relief and rental tryouts of scrubs would be little consolation for getting rid of their mistake signing of Magette, if they do in fact admit that it was a mistake signing in the first place...

Kings New Lineup (So Far...)

PG Beno Udrih/Bobby Jackson/Bobby Brown
SG Kevin Martin/Francisco Garcia
SF John Salmons/Corey Magette/Anthony Randolph
PF Jason Thompson/Brandan Wright/Dante Greene/#9
C Spencer Hawes/Mikki Moore/Sheldon Williams


Trade B (Simple Swap)(Portland/Sacramento)

Sacramento Outgoing

John Salmons (To Portland)

Sacramento Incoming

Jerryd Bayless (From Portland)
Ike Diogu or Channing Frye (Portland's choice as both would work and are expiring contracts)

Portland Outgoing

Jerryd Bayles (To Sacramento)
Ike Diogu or Channing Frye (Both would work and be fine by me)

Portland Incoming

John Salmons (From Sacramento)

Why the Kings Do This: For a bloody point guard. Bayless would have been our pick if Indiana didn't beat us to him, and he has the tools and the toughness to be the Kings starting point guard during and after the rebuild. John Salmons is a bit old to work for us, but he still has plenty of prime years left to be Portland's Kobe stopper and help them win a title until we're at full strength...

Why The Kings Don't Do This? Never trade with a western rival is all that comes to mind, but it would seem to be a no brainer to me...

Why the Blazers Do This: They need a starting quality small forward, and while Batum is playing fairly well, he does have his rookie mistakes. Salmons would improve their perimeter defense and his slashing ability would open up their deadly 3 point shooters and Aldridge's mid-range game. Besides, their GM feels that he wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't make at least one in season trade to improve his team...

Why the Blazers Don't Do This: John Salmons might be a bit to old for their 5 years of dominance plan, but he'll be in his prime until Batum is ready to command the starting job.

Kings New Lineup (Post Trades A+B)

PG Jerryd Bayless/Beno Udrih/Bobby Jackson/Bobby Brown
SG Kevin Martin/Francisco Garcia
SF Anthony Randolph/Dante Greene/Corey Magette
PF Jason Thompson/Brandan Wright/Diogu or Frye/Kenny Thomas
C Spencer Hawes/Mikki Moore/Sheldon Williams

Kings would then have to waive a player to make room for the former Blazer players...I vote #9 or Mikki, but it would probably be a Bobby. Kings would still get 2 nice picks this draft and I'm thinking Thabeet or comparable center and the best player available... PG maybe if a Bobby is lost. Thoughts?

 

[Vlade4GM]

Jerryd Bayless is not a PG, he's a 6'3 gunner with t-rex arms.

 

[91sickness]

Please explain to me why in the world the Warriors would trade Anthony Randolph Brandan Wright AND Magette for Wally n Douby??? i doubt they would even trade just Magette for Wally n Douby.

 

[SacKings7]

I like the deals for Sacramento, but please explain to me again why Cleveland trades for Brad? Ilgauskas, Wallace, and Varejao are all capable of playing at C, so they don't really need insurance there. Also, those 4 are an incredibly expensive, slow frontcourt.

And I've said this before that getting as many young prospects is great, but the entire team can't be young. We have to have at least a couple of veterans to teach the kids a thing or 2.

 

[Nighthawk1]

Can we seriously stop putting Baron Davis and Magette into trades? We don't want them personally nor do we want them from a business sense of their overbloated long term contracts on aging players

 

[Jespher]

Of course we don't want Magette...Neither do the Warriors. They don't want Magette so much that they would give us a lopsided talent advantage in a trade (Like Wright and Randolph) just to dump Magette's gargantuan salary. That is why the Warriors would trade those 3 for Wally and Douby, because they are both expiring contracts and that cap room will help them make a play for Carlos Boozer this summer, a player everyone in Golden State Country has a man crush on, a PF who actually rebounds and plays man defense.

As for Cleveland, just ask LeBron James how important Zydrunas Ilgauskas is to the Cavs. He had a quote earlier on in the year that the Cavs should retire his jersey when he is done playing because of how valuable he is to the team. Brad Miller isn't that different from big Z, he is a better passer, but a worse shot blocker. I think that the Cavs would be thrilled to have him the next 2 seasons and that he would be very valuable to their offensive sets against Boston and Detroit's tenacious defenses in the playoffs. If he can get Kevin Martin wide open opportunities, think of what he can do with LeBron James and his posse of shooters.

 

[Bricklayer]

Teh reasoning behind the Maggette move is solid -- that is how you tempt the Warriors to give up talent. Offer to free them financially and take their garbage contract. Only problem is that then that leaves you with the giant garbage contract.

 

[Jespher]

And along with the garbage contract, you get a solid front court rotation for the next 10 years...I'll take that risk and run with it...

 

[SacKings7]

And along with the garbage contract, you get a solid front court rotation for the next 10 years...I'll take that risk and run with it...

I like and understand that part of the deal and I think something like this could definitely happen. I just don't see the Cavs taking Miller IF they still have Ilgauskas, Wallace, and Varejao on the team.

 

[Jespher]

Ilgauskas is out indefinately with a broken ankle and Wallace and Varajao are both marginal offensive players at best...Brad Miller is a good fit, and his contract expires in time to have the cap space to resign LeBron James and add another superstar free agent too. Their championship window is now.

 

[VF21]

Can we seriously stop putting Baron Davis and Magette into trades? We don't want them personally nor do we want them from a business sense of their overbloated long term contracts on aging players

I really like the effort the OP put into presenting his trade proposals, but I have to agree with Nighthawk1. Any proposition that includes either Baron Davis or Corey Magette just isn't going to happen.