Rebuilding in two trades

[chrisnu]

Miami receives: Ron Artest, Kenny Thomas
Kings receive: Ricky Davis, Jason Williams

If Miami wants a significant talent upgrade in Artest, they will have to take back a bad contract, and will have to put up with Smush Parker as their starting PG. Thomas would actually receive more playing time in Miami, as they really don't have a backup PF.

Cleveland receives: Mike Bibby, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Darryl Watkins
Sacramento receives: Drew Gooden, Donyell Marshall, Damon Jones

Cleveland also receives a significant talent upgrade at PG, but they would be forced to play Watkins and Cedric Simmons at PF, in addition to Reef (and possibly James). Cleveland gets rid of two players they don't really want, and the Kings have more salary coming of the books after next year.

New Kings rotation:

Miller/Hawes/Williams
Gooden/Moore/Williams/Marshall
Davis/Salmons/Garcia
Martin/Douby/Salmons/Jones
Williams/Udrih/Garcia/Jones

 

[Big Cuz 15]

what the?? why even do the trades?? trade for the sake of trading?

btw, if you're gonna trade for expirings, you probably want to tell them to stay home and let our young players develop. expirings don't do anything but help the cap at the end of the season. unless we are intending on keeping the those players.. its pointless to play em.

 

[chrisnu]

The goal is to shave as much salary as possible, in as little time as possible. These trades get rid of two of the worst long-term contracts the Kings have: Reef and Thomas. Davis, Gooden, et. al. are stopgaps. The Kings lose more games, and are able to rebuild through the draft. When the team salary is reduced dramatically in 2-3 years, the Kings will be able to go after big-name free agents.

Isn't that typically how rebuilding works?

 

[mac]

The Cleveland trade is ok other than the fact that Bibby's injured. As for Miami, they'd have to be idiots to do that. They don't need Artest with Ricky Davis...well not enough to give up Jwill and settle for smush at least. Oh and to take KT.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

well in a rebuild, you want to try to get young players, draft picks and cap space. one route to rebuilding is to get expirings.. however in the trade proposals we are getting just expirings and some of them don't expire until after next season which i believe bibby's expires at that same time (which is puzzling to trade for expirings that expire the same time).. it doesn't look like we're going to keep those players that are traded for either..
both players mentioned can opt out also which is making it difficult for teams to give us what we want in return. i felt these players could at least get us some young players, draft picks and capspace if not a combination of these

 

[EatMoreChicken]

Miami needs a pg badly, and I'm not sure if they're willing to lose Jwill w/o getting another pg in return. I read that they're not high on Smush at all and want to move him. I don't know, getting rid of our best player for just expiring is enough, it smells of desperation. We should get more value than that.

The Bibby trade pushes rebuilding off for two years. Instead of a good player with a bad contract, we get three mediocre players with bad contracts. Isn't that what we did w/ Webber?

Not sure what Petrie decides to do, but Bibby better heal fast b/c the Sixers will likely move Miller and Cleveland is a good fit for him.