RealGM Team Rankings as of aug 15th

jay dubb said:
The Rockets are old

Not where it matters -- their three best players are all young (Yao, McGrady, Swift). Biggest problme for them now that swift is on board, is the lack of a PG.
 
jay dubb said:
The Rockets are old so they are not a threat to me. Kings are going to go into the Toyota Center on Nov.2 and beat them in their home opener.

Yeah, but I think the trio of Yao/T-Mac/Swift is more than something to think about. Possibly both guard positions not set either. I think aside from that, the core of the team has had a full season together. Solid defensively too.

Not saying the Kings don't have a chance or little chance, just think they'll be stronger.

Should be an interesting game anyway.
 
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tyrant said:
what's wrong with sura?

Not a true PG, or really in that area. Don't think he is who they plan to have starting. I think they could possibly keep him where he is because of his defense and toughness though.
 
tyrant said:
what's wrong with sura?

Kings 113 beat me to it -- not a true PG. Also, while I like Sura, that is where the real age is now that they have left. Their guardline is ancient -- Sura (32), Wesley (34), Barry (36) Ward (34) ... I mean, that's ridiculous. Question for them is how do they get a younger true PG with very few tradeable assets beyond their young stars?
 
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Bricklayer said:
Kings 113 beat me to it -- not a true PG. Also, while I like Sura, that is where the real age is now that they have seift. Their guardline is ancient -- Sura (32), Wesley (34), Barry (36) Ward (34) ... I mean, that's ridiculous. Question for them is how do they get a younger true PG with very few tradeable assets beyond their young stars?

Trade a first to Detroit for Arroyo, although I think he and T-Mac got into it during the Olympic qualifiers. There's other guys out there, but it'll take a first to get them. Shoot, move a first to Portland for Jarret Jack.
 
Bricklayer said:
Kings 113 beat me to it -- not a true PG. Also, while I like Sura, that is where the real age is now that they have left. Their guardline is ancient -- Sura (32), Wesley (34), Barry (36) Ward (34) ... I mean, that's ridiculous. Question for them is how do they get a younger true PG with very few tradeable assets beyond their young stars?

Forgot Mike James and Luther Head for their guards, unless you were just naming the older ones, which it basically all is.

Houston just has the LLE and vet. mininum... I think they'd have to get someone by a trade. Pargo/Blake I doubt are options to start... Brevin Knight looks to be staying with the Bobcats, could be had for the LLE though. Wouldn't really solve their scoring problem at starting PG though, but is definitely a true pg. Could continue the rotation with James off the bench for scoring. Nick Van Exel might be able to be had for LLE, but is kinda old, and don't know about the knees. Would continue to be a retirement home of sorts ;). Lue is gonna end up a Laker, Dickau I bet ends up with Cavs, and is out of their range.
 
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When their starters come out, they lose way too much when bench gets minutes. Thats the problem with expensive superstars like mcgrady, they get too reliant on him.
 
Jeff Van Gundy is still the coach in Houston, right?

Sprewell going to Houston?

Let me check out my crystal ball ...

I foresee dark clouds over Houston. And possible coach-choking.

;)
 
BibityBobtyBoom said:
or detroit, if he goes to houston, then we might have problems
I am not worried about Houston getting Spree. He isn't even half the player he was. He is well past his best.

Thats why he still hasn't signed with a team. With his decline and baggage, team are very reserved about signing him up.
 
The Rockets are paper tigers in my opinion.

TMac can occasionally flat out dominate, but he can also disappear more than a player of his ability ever should. Still, I would regard him as a superstar. A bit below the Duncans, Shaqs and Kobes of the world, but still a superstar.

After that, I'm less than impressed. I am convinced that Yao Ming will simply never be a real force in the NBA. Rik Smits with a post game? A healthier and more offensive minded Ilgauskas? What other comparisons can be made right now? He is a poor rebounder for his size, he doesn't play with a mean streak, he doesn't outmuscle guys in the block and he has shown me very little in the way of big improvements in his game over the last couple seasons.

Swift is a nice compliment considering his athleticism and shotblocking, but his presence will likely make them even softer on the glass, since he's not a good rebounder. I just don't see his arrival as a large improvement.

Sura has exceeded expectations, and I like the guy's game, but he's not a true point, and he may start wearing down soon. I've never liked Wesley's game and I can't imagine that the possibility of adding Sprewell excites anyone.

The Rockets should make the playoffs, but I think they are vastly overrated at this point. I guess we'll see.
 
Venom said:
Trade a first to Detroit for Arroyo, although I think he and T-Mac got into it during the Olympic qualifiers. There's other guys out there, but it'll take a first to get them. Shoot, move a first to Portland for Jarret Jack.
I'd say it's a fair bet that I've watched more Georgia Tech basketball games in the last three years than any three other posters here combined, and Jack isn't a true point guard; he's got PG skills, but he's an undersized SG. Pretty much the only reason that he played PG in college is because of BJ Elder.
 
Jeez I just remember the game that Scott Padget creamed us.

Double-team on Mcgrady, Padget left wide open beyond the arc.

Hit like 9 3's.


I think we still won.
 
funkykingston said:
The Rockets are paper tigers in my opinion.

TMac can occasionally flat out dominate, but he can also disappear more than a player of his ability ever should. Still, I would regard him as a superstar. A bit below the Duncans, Shaqs and Kobes of the world, but still a superstar.

After that, I'm less than impressed. I am convinced that Yao Ming will simply never be a real force in the NBA. Rik Smits with a post game? A healthier and more offensive minded Ilgauskas? What other comparisons can be made right now? He is a poor rebounder for his size, he doesn't play with a mean streak, he doesn't outmuscle guys in the block and he has shown me very little in the way of big improvements in his game over the last couple seasons.

Swift is a nice compliment considering his athleticism and shotblocking, but his presence will likely make them even softer on the glass, since he's not a good rebounder. I just don't see his arrival as a large improvement.

Sura has exceeded expectations, and I like the guy's game, but he's not a true point, and he may start wearing down soon. I've never liked Wesley's game and I can't imagine that the possibility of adding Sprewell excites anyone.

The Rockets should make the playoffs, but I think they are vastly overrated at this point. I guess we'll see.

My sentiments exactly about the Rockets. There are quite a few paper tigers out there in the league right now, not excluding our very own Kings.
 
ForlornKing said:
Jeez I just remember the game that Scott Padget creamed us.

Double-team on Mcgrady, Padget left wide open beyond the arc.

Hit like 9 3's.


I think we still won.

Six threes. Yeah, he had his fun, then we took over the game late in the 4th quarter following into OT.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus said:
I'd say it's a fair bet that I've watched more Georgia Tech basketball games in the last three years than any three other posters here combined, and Jack isn't a true point guard; he's got PG skills, but he's an undersized SG. Pretty much the only reason that he played PG in college is because of BJ Elder.


Fair enough. I really like his game though.

As for the Rockets, they should be better this year. T-Mac seemed to find himself towards the latter part the year and become a true leader, rather than just the guy who handled the ball all the time and put up the shots. I like Yao, alot. He plays sofT, but having Swift around to mad dog everybody is going to help Yao. He'll be able to focus on what he brings to the table, and hopefully cut down on stupid fouls trying to block everything. Also, if I see him take one more charge I am going to write Ewing a long, expletive laden letter as to how he is failing the big fella. They still need to work more on setting Yao up for success. He would be lethal from the high post. I honestly think he's the best passing big man in the game besides Webb and KG. Shaq is good too, but he's not as adept at getting the ball to the spot as Yao, more at just being able to recognize double teams. Yao would murder teams in our offense.
 
Venom said:
They still need to work more on setting Yao up for success. He would be lethal from the high post. I honestly think he's the best passing big man in the game besides Webb and KG. Shaq is good too, but he's not as adept at getting the ball to the spot as Yao, more at just being able to recognize double teams. Yao would murder teams in our offense.

Yao to the Kings, anyone? Is this the rest of GP's off-season plan? :D One can only dream....
 
Warhawk said:
Yao to the Kings, anyone? Is this the rest of GP's off-season plan? :D One can only dream....

In a lot of ways its too bad Yao is such a marketing phenom -- I agree with Venom that he has great potential as a passer that's being wasted. But for the Rockets, who suddenly earned a billion fans when they drafted him, there is a lot more than actual on court performance going into his untouchability.
 
Venom said:
Fair enough. I really like his game though.
Oh, so do I; he was my second-favorite player, behind Isma'il Muhammad. In fact, I'm still a little sore that he and Bosh left early... especially Bosh, because we would have beaten Connecticut in 2004, had he stayed.
 
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