question on that last shot

[Ryle]

This statement is so not true.

How???

 

[ReinadelosReys]

Here's another angle:

http://meribarb.net/cupdates.htm

Ok, this is the last comment I am going to allow myself to make on this whole fiasco:

His hand is over/on the rim. If that picture by itself, let alone the others that have been posted don't convince people then I don't know what will.

EDIT: I believe, judging by the positioning of the players, it is from the same time frame of the second picture posted by El Paljasso.

 

[1kingzfan]

Thanx, but that sidecourt shot is way too late to be able to tell.

 

[Dave McNulla]

yes, the trajectory of the ball is from right to left. his hand is indeed higher than the rim, but that doesn't equate to over the rim. if you see the next pictures, you will see his arm move from upper right to lower left, in a motion that would be stopped by the rim if his hand was over it.

 

[swisshh]

I'd just like to point out that the refs called a goaltending violation in that Spurs game when Evans was at least a few inches away from even touching the ball, and now they don't call a goaltending when logic and replays show it obviously was. In other words, Dave needs to eat some crow about officiating in the NBA.

 

[Twix]

Here's another angle:

http://meribarb.net/cupdates.htm

I forgot to check meribarb's site. Thanks for posting that pic, Reina.

From that pic...it definitely looks like goaltending!! Hmm...it actually looks like Amare is going to dunk that ball? Haha.

 

[Dave McNulla]

I'd just like to point out that the refs called a goaltending violation in that Spurs game when Evans was at least a few inches away from even touching the ball, and now they don't call a goaltending when logic and replays show it obviously was. In other words, Dave needs to eat some crow about officiating in the NBA.

they definitely screwed up the call you are referring to. and they may have screwed up the call last night. i don't think so based on the clip i saw. i wouldn't put money on it. but i see no need for crow, because they mess up calls, it goes with the business.

people remember the calls they think they got screwed on, they ignore and forget the calls that help them. i was screaming at the officials (spurs/wiz) through the tv until my wife told me to shut up. c'est la vie. it looked to all spurs fans that the officials were giving them home cooking.

we weren't right. spurs shot too many three pointers. spurs didn't play tight enough D late in the game. spurs had too many turnovers. spurs let them get too many offensive rebounds. it's not the officials' fault.

 

[iheartBrad]

whoa whoa whoa

are you saying the Spurs lost tonight...?

i was gonna watch that game but i got caught up in something else on TV

 

[bigbadred00]

Yeah Manu the new golden god on the NBA had one hell of a game without TD. 15 points, 6-15 from the field, 4 rebounds and 3 assists in 33 minutes, you know all star material ^^.

 

[Twix]

we weren't right. spurs shot too many three pointers. spurs didn't play tight enough D late in the game. spurs had too many turnovers. spurs let them get too many offensive rebounds. it's not the officials' fault.

Well...no Wiz player did a goaltending/block in that game that may determine the result of the game, right?

 

[nAj jAn™]

I did not know Goaltending has many rules.....

All i know, no player should touch the rim and the player can still block the ball if its still going up, and as long as it hit the board, its automatic goaltending....

In NBA TV, they only showed it once also, why no replays if they called it a clean block....

 

[SIR HENRY 8]

I have a co worker that is also a bball ref on the college level for nor-cal.his take was,a very easy call to make,goaltending.''as long as the ball has a chance to go into the hoop,and ANY part of the ball is in imaginary cylinder,NO player is allowed to touch it''.I asked him ''why would they not call it? is it lack of respect.'' his answer floored me. he said ,''nothing to do with respect,they most likely already decided not to put this game into OT by any kind of a call,there were 3 whistles on the floor and they all saw the last shot,and they all swollowed their whistles,probly had a plane to catch''.he said beleive it or not,it happens.

 

[Bricklayer]

<sigh> I think they blew the call. But this has all gotten so silly. It was a blown call, but NOT an easy call. A very tough call in fact. And depending on the angle they were at, who knows what they saw? It requires no malfeasance, no ill will, and no conspiracy for them to have blown that call -- just a little old fashioned incompetence mixed with the refs' normal tendency to swallow the whistle on last second game deciding plays.

Enough already.

 

[HndsmCelt]

<sigh> I think they blew the call. But this has all gotten so silly. It was a blown call, but NOT an easy call. A very tough call in fact. And depending on the angle they were at, who knows what they saw? It requires no malfeasance, no ill will, and no conspiracy for them to have blown that call -- just a little old fashioned incompetence mixed with the refs' normal tendency to swallow the whistle on last second game deciding plays.

Enough already.

Yup

 

[love_them_kings]

<sigh> I think they blew the call. But this has all gotten so silly. It was a blown call, but NOT an easy call. A very tough call in fact. And depending on the angle they were at, who knows what they saw? It requires no malfeasance, no ill will, and no conspiracy for them to have blown that call -- just a little old fashioned incompetence mixed with the refs' normal tendency to swallow the whistle on last second game deciding plays.

Enough already.

I agree. I was deeply disturbed last night, and of course I wish it had happened differently. But what everyone needs to keep in mind in that we can see it's a blown call, but we have seen replay after replay, in slow motion, still shots from several angles, etc. The ref made the call based on what he could see in a split second. The rules of review in basketball do not allow a play to be reviewed for a missed call. That's unfortunate, and (IMHO) I would like to see a better review system available. But, for now, it is what it is. Onto the next game. GO KINGS!

 

[swisshh]

people remember the calls they think they got screwed on, they ignore and forget the calls that help them. i was screaming at the officials (spurs/wiz) through the tv until my wife told me to shut up. c'est la vie. it looked to all spurs fans that the officials were giving them home cooking.

we weren't right. spurs shot too many three pointers. spurs didn't play tight enough D late in the game. spurs had too many turnovers. spurs let them get too many offensive rebounds. it's not the officials' fault.

Have you played basketball? Reffed?

Maybe you WERE right. Watch more NBA, get rid of your sports cliches and figure things out for yourself. That is my advice. Turnovers? Rebounds? Defensive lapses? Did the Wizards not also commit these errors? Do teams not commit these sort of mistakes EVERY game in the NBA and still manage to both win and lose by doing so? Sorry for the accusatory prose, but the words you speak are a cowardly pattern developed from people who would rather just take the easy answer out instead of challenge the behemoth that is the NBA. My family is a family of officials, that have worked football/baseball/basketball games and they have had nothing but disgust for NBA officiating. That to me says a lot about NBA refs.