Purple Reign
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Program Alert - Rick Adelman on Jim Rome Radio Show
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Purple Reign
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Sorry, he is on right now!!
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MrBiggs
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I hope someone is taking notes, I can't listen to the radio at work after I got in trouble over some crap Don and Mike said.
Purple Reign
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HE IS BEING VERY CANDID RIGHT NOW!!! I will come back and update after it is over.
Purple Reign
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To the best of my recollection ability, this is what Rick Adelman said to Jim Rome this morning.
ON ARTEST'S AFFECT ON THE CLUB
That Ron Artest has been a huge issue in why the season has turned around. That on defense he has given the team an identity, and on offense he has given them options. But the main reason is that they have found themselves on the road, and the emergence of kevin Martin and Cisco Garcia, especially during the injuries to Shareef and Bonzi.
THE FUTURE OF ARTEST IN THE SACRAMENTO
That this isn't just a short term trying to get it together, that Artest's revival is a long haul deal. That the effect of the Sacramento community embracing him has and will play a part of a happy relationship in Sac. That Ron is a family man and Sacramento is a great place to raise a family. And that he loves to play basketball and the fans in Sac loves basketball.
OWNERSHIP AND FUTURE STATUS (here is where it gets interesting)
ROME: Do you think that you not having a contract for next season, and how The Maloofs pursued Phil Jackson, do you tend to think about it.
RA (not verbatim): I am human, and yes I do think about it. But I think about leading this team more. This team's future is bright whether I am here or not.
ROME: Do you think a message was sent to you that you were set up to fail?
RA: "Ownership did what they felt they had to do. But yes, you could see it like that. However, I get paid a lot of money to coach this team. Ownership, owns the team and have the right to do what they want. (He emphasised earlier in the conversation that when the Artest deal was being consumated, he was not notified by ownership or management about it until the deal was pretty much done).
ROME: Do you think that if you make a push into the playoffs, that you will be back.
RA: That is out of my control. "Ownership" owns the team and i will coach whether I am here or not.
The rest of the conversation dealt with Portland atmoshere compared to Sacramento atmosphere. adelman says that it is pretty much the same.
He was asked if he still thinks about the robert Horry shot and how things could have been different if that shot would not have went in. Adelman says yes, he still thinks about that (like we all do), but coaches have a tendancy to remember the losses more than the wins. But that sometimes you have to chalk it up to that you lost to the better team.
ON ARTEST'S AFFECT ON THE CLUB
That Ron Artest has been a huge issue in why the season has turned around. That on defense he has given the team an identity, and on offense he has given them options. But the main reason is that they have found themselves on the road, and the emergence of kevin Martin and Cisco Garcia, especially during the injuries to Shareef and Bonzi.
THE FUTURE OF ARTEST IN THE SACRAMENTO
That this isn't just a short term trying to get it together, that Artest's revival is a long haul deal. That the effect of the Sacramento community embracing him has and will play a part of a happy relationship in Sac. That Ron is a family man and Sacramento is a great place to raise a family. And that he loves to play basketball and the fans in Sac loves basketball.
OWNERSHIP AND FUTURE STATUS (here is where it gets interesting)
ROME: Do you think that you not having a contract for next season, and how The Maloofs pursued Phil Jackson, do you tend to think about it.
RA (not verbatim): I am human, and yes I do think about it. But I think about leading this team more. This team's future is bright whether I am here or not.
ROME: Do you think a message was sent to you that you were set up to fail?
RA: "Ownership did what they felt they had to do. But yes, you could see it like that. However, I get paid a lot of money to coach this team. Ownership, owns the team and have the right to do what they want. (He emphasised earlier in the conversation that when the Artest deal was being consumated, he was not notified by ownership or management about it until the deal was pretty much done).
ROME: Do you think that if you make a push into the playoffs, that you will be back.
RA: That is out of my control. "Ownership" owns the team and i will coach whether I am here or not.
The rest of the conversation dealt with Portland atmoshere compared to Sacramento atmosphere. adelman says that it is pretty much the same.
He was asked if he still thinks about the robert Horry shot and how things could have been different if that shot would not have went in. Adelman says yes, he still thinks about that (like we all do), but coaches have a tendancy to remember the losses more than the wins. But that sometimes you have to chalk it up to that you lost to the better team.
Purple Reign
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I like Rick Adelman. I will be the first to admit that I wanted to make a coaching change before the Artest deal because this was a different team, and it was time for a fresh start. We need to get a more defensive minded coach. I no longer feel that way, and I am not ashamed to admit it. Regardless of what happens this season, Rick Adelman deserves to be here next year and beyond.
Here is what I got out of the conversation.. IT WILL BE A MIRACLE IF RICK ADELMAN IS COACHING THIS TEAM NEXT YEAR.
Based on this conversation and conversations in the past from both the Maloofs and Adelman, that relationship is very wounded. Just the tone of Adelman's voice and how he never called out the Maloofs by name and constantly refered to them as "OWNERSHIP" spoke volumes. There is some hurt there. And to me, just based on how the Maloofs have handled their business in the last two seasons, shows me that things are not the same. I don't think they want him back, and I don't think he wants to come back.
That to me is unfortunate.
Here is what I got out of the conversation.. IT WILL BE A MIRACLE IF RICK ADELMAN IS COACHING THIS TEAM NEXT YEAR.
Based on this conversation and conversations in the past from both the Maloofs and Adelman, that relationship is very wounded. Just the tone of Adelman's voice and how he never called out the Maloofs by name and constantly refered to them as "OWNERSHIP" spoke volumes. There is some hurt there. And to me, just based on how the Maloofs have handled their business in the last two seasons, shows me that things are not the same. I don't think they want him back, and I don't think he wants to come back.
That to me is unfortunate.
love_them_kings
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Purple Reign said:
It's very unfortunate if we can't hold onto Adelman.The Maloofs really blundered with that whole Phil Jackson thing. I hope that if the Maloofs offer him a good contract he will stay despite his hurt feelings because he likes it here and his family is here.
DocHolliday
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I believe in miracles. Sometimes, they do happen. I think this might be one of those instances. With the turn around, and if the intensity keeps up, and they push into the playoffs after how the first 2/3 of this season went, Maloofs won't let him go. Especially since Artest is doing so good, and stable. You don't get rid of the person that soothes the soul of the beast.
quick dog
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I heard the Adelman interview also and came away with a little different feeling. I got the impression that Adelman may indeed be back, but the decision is totally out of his control. Rome suggested that he was set up by management for failure. Adelman said that he did not know about that, but that the challenge has been significant. He is surprised how ell things have gone considering the odds against the team. He thinks that he has done a pretty good job, but we shall see how the season ends.
I think that Adelman wants to come back now that Artest is here. He is inspired by the improvement that he has seen in the team. He did indicate that whether he is here or not, he will still be coaching in the NBA. He sounded like a man with confidence in his ability to coach NBA teams. He is right.
I think that Adelman wants to come back now that Artest is here. He is inspired by the improvement that he has seen in the team. He did indicate that whether he is here or not, he will still be coaching in the NBA. He sounded like a man with confidence in his ability to coach NBA teams. He is right.
Diabeticwonder
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I didn't hear the Rome conversation today, but comments from Rick and the Maloofs within the past month or so have led me to believe that Rick wants to stick around and the Maloofs want him to stick around.
I tend to agree with quick dog and Diabeticwonder, but who knows? If there's one thing I can say with certainty about this whole thing, it's that I couldn't have foreseen any of it. Whatever happens, happens. I'm adopting the "ostrich" approach for the moment, at least as far as Adelman's future is concerned. I'm more interested in what he's going to do tonight and the rest of the season. I honestly think THAT will decide his future...and ours.
GO KINGS!!!
GO KINGS!!!
Purple Reign
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DocHolliday said:
However, the Maloofs have an ego too. And I think they probably feel if they had a more defensive minded coach, they probably could do even greater things. I do not believe that. But I would not be surprised if that was their thinking.
Did anybody see the Inside the NBA Access with Ammad Rashad. I remember the show showing a game once and Joe Maloof was on the sideline just absolutely railing at Rick Adelman to call a timeout. Just the disgust in their voice alone kind of shocked me that that feeling would come from an owner towards their coach in public like that. I know they are fans too, but I thought ownership should be above the nom that fans spew out. Kind of put me on notice.
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thesanityannex
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He wasn't holding anything together the first 2/3 of the season, this team was awful. I think he gets enough credit. I'd put these wins more on the backs of Artest and his teammates than Adelman. Having said that, I also hope he is back next year with this same team.quick dog said:
Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
There are more changes coming, but the one who you KNOW will still be here is Ron. And once you realize that, realize Ron's history, realize how quickly he and Rick have bonded...well, it changes, or should change, the whole Adelman discussion. If no trades had been made this year and we had waddled on home sub-.500 with a mismatched passionless team, then Rick was gone. And as much as I might feel you'd be hard pressed to do much better, that would have been ok. Not much to save, need a new direction, as good a time as any. But now you've got the most volatile man in basketball leading your team, and he likes Rick, likes the trust put in him, and Rick is a great players coahc for his top guys. Now if you let Rick go...there is absolutely no limit to the bad that can come of it. You have to be so so careful not only to find another coach capable of getting a team to the Finals, but of finding another coach capable of reaching Ron. You simply cannot afford to have somebody who is going to clash wiht your franchise player, let alone THIS franchise player.
Diabeticwonder
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Look, we wouldn't even be having this conversation but for a few different bounces of the ball and some luck in 2002 vs the Lakers and had Horry missed that three or the Kings made a few more ft's in Game 7, Rick would be just as good a coach today as he is without a title. The Maloofs are very passionate about this team and their yelling at the coach to take a timeout is fine with me. It shows me that they are fans. Look at Larry Miller's realtionship with Jerry Sloan. And you thought that an owner yelling at a coach to take a timeout was over the top. I'm also not sold on the notion of bringing in a more defensive minded coach. Look at Larry Brown in NYC. Defense has more to do with the players than anything the coach is gong to tell them. The Kings were a very good defensive team a few years back because of the personnel of the team. Rick is better suited to guide this team than anyone else out there. Rick has a way with players and with the players we have now I think that he is a perfict fit. I will be very upset if he is not coaching this team next year.Purple Reign said:
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Bricklayer said:
I would like to echo that. i feel if Ron expresses how much Rick has helped him or how much he likes Rick. I think the Owners will take notice. The same goes for all the players on the team. 1 thing i see all around the league these days is players and coaches clashing. Thats something that i have never seen in Sacramento. Adleman is a coach players like to play for. That can be a negative or a positve. but with our success one would have to take it as a positive.
CruzDude
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I like Adelman as a coach in general and for the Kings in particular. His style gives the CWebbs, Artests and Bonzi's of the NBA world an environment that lets them expand their styles and use it to advantage, no matter the history. He stays out of the past and is an "open source" coach who lets each player do what he does best then integrate it into a true TEAM.
Hope he stays. Who could do a better job than Coach? who could even do as well with this bunch and the huge strides they all have made since Artest got here, since Bonzi started playing again and with the rapid rise in Martin and Cisco contributions?
Kings peaked in 2002. Now it is a different team with different philosophy and different players. If Kings go second round, Adelman is here for 3 year extension. If first round and out, who knows?
Hope he stays. Who could do a better job than Coach? who could even do as well with this bunch and the huge strides they all have made since Artest got here, since Bonzi started playing again and with the rapid rise in Martin and Cisco contributions?
Kings peaked in 2002. Now it is a different team with different philosophy and different players. If Kings go second round, Adelman is here for 3 year extension. If first round and out, who knows?
Purple Reign
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Bricklayer said:
I absolutely concur with that sentiment.
However, the Maloofs over the past two years have done some things that really make you scratch your head. I would not put it past them whatsoever to let Adelman walk. It wouldn't be hard to do. Half of the job is done because he does not have a contract. I believe that the Maloofs do not want Adelman back, I could care less what they say. Actions speak louder than words.
But in considering the whole Artest factor, if the Maloofs were smart they would throw a two year extension in front of him right now!!! They are in a no win situation ESPECIALLY IF THE KINGS MAKE A DEEP RUN INTO THE PLAYOFFS.
Because if they wait and decide to keep him they will have to pay out of the wazoo if this team makes a run into the playoffs.
If they let Adelman walk, they are going to have to answer to a fan base, why they allowed the best available coach walk out the door.
Adelman is the best available coach, right...???
I love Rick Adelman. He was here for the wins and the losses. He wants to win in Sac more then anyone! I would be pissed If we brought that peice of **** Phil Jackson into Sac after all the **** hes talked, come on! HES A LAKER!!!!
Please keep Adelman, He deserves a Championship just as much as us and the players do. And that Championship is not to far away.
Please keep Adelman, He deserves a Championship just as much as us and the players do. And that Championship is not to far away.
Bibby's Tattoo's
G-League
I agree with bricklayer for all of Adleman's faults he does a great job working with players that come in with some baggage, and with Ron and hopefully Bonzi on the team for a while Adleman is the right coach.
BLNINJA #81
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Bricklayer said:
YOU ARE 10000000000000000000000000000000000000% CORRECT!
You've echoed my thoughts exactly on the issue (Great Minds..
). Not being able to sign Rick now may in the long run be DISASTEROUS if we don't get the right sort of replacement.Similar threads
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