Potential Free Agent/Trade/Sign Tracker, '25-'26 Season

iowamcnabb said:
Dennis is obviously not a very popular choice with kings fans but Pistons Reddit wants him back in Detroit.
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The Pistons are currently a playoff team in a wide open and only modestly competitive Eastern Conference. It makes sense that their fanbase doesn't want to lose a competent ballhandler off the bench. The Kings, on the other hand, are a big fat question mark in a brutally competitive Western Conference. Schroder isn't making the difference on this team, especially if he's being signed to a starting role.
 
Padrino said:
The Pistons are currently a playoff team in a wide open and only modestly competitive Eastern Conference. It makes sense that their fanbase doesn't want to lose a competent ballhandler off the bench. The Kings, on the other hand, are a big fat question mark in a brutally competitive Western Conference. Schroder isn't making the difference on this team, especially if he's being signed to a starting role.
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it’s a two year deal and cost us no assets. We are not starting Monk or Carter at point. Scott, Doug and our best player are all in agreement on that. Unless a franchise guard is available we will be starting a stop gap.
 
iowamcnabb said:
it’s a two year deal and cost us no assets. We are not starting Monk or Carter at point. Scott, Doug and our best player are all in agreement on that. Unless a franchise guard is available we will be starting a stop gap.
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I'm aware of this. I'm just providing a rationale for why Pistons fans may not want to lose Schroder, and why that rationale may not effectively transfer to the role Schroder will play for the Kings, given the big difference in context.
 
I just don't see the upside in that he gets in the way of developing our guys but has no long term potential. How much time will he take from Carter, and then how will that translate into losing time for Keon when you have to distribute minutes to the others (I guess we need to see who gets traded but until then it's a problem).
 
Padrino said:
I'm aware of this. I'm just providing a rationale for why Pistons fans may not want to lose Schroder, and why that rationale may not effectively transfer to the role Schroder will play for the Kings, given the big difference in context.
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Sure, I think my point was the forum has decided Shroder sucks (and probably almost no one has watched him play last year) while the fans of the team he was on want him back and playing minutes for a playoff team.
 
Padrino said:
I'm aware of this. I'm just providing a rationale for why Pistons fans may not want to lose Schroder, and why that rationale may not effectively transfer to the role Schroder will play for the Kings, given the big difference in context.
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In addition, you sacrificed our team control to bring him on. So not only is he getting in the way of minutes for Carter and Keon, you now are playing him instead of really seeing what Carter and Keon can give you.

Dennis is absolutely fine as a bench piece for a good team. Like your 7th-8th man. But man, we are paying a HUGE cost for him when factoring everything in.
 
Jdbraver137 said:
I’d rather have a young guy to give a chance to. I hate we are fighting for the play in again
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The good news is the flattened lottery odds no longer reward franchises for being intentionally bad in a competitive sport. Try to win and if you aren’t good enough you miss the playoffs and get a crack at a franchise changing player.
 
The_Jamal said:
Ty Jerome
Santi Aldama
Nickeil Alexander Walker
Jake LaRavia

Would be by 4 targets this off-season.

Ty Jerome already went into a bit. Was insanely good this last off-season, showed tremendous growth as a passer and shooter. Crazy efficient. Late breakout the major concern; was his last season a mirage?

Santi Aldama is very very interesting as someone you could plug at the 4 to get Keegan primarily back to the 3. Excellent shooter, very good connective passer. Makes a lot of winning plays. He's #2 for me in this FA class for someone, if given the opportunity, really breaks out next season as a quality starter.

NAW is a bit duplicative with Keon and now Nique, but I don't really care. You cannot have enough perimeter/wing defenders on your team, as OKC showed us. He's one of the best defenders in basketball, he plays incredibly hard and he's a proven volume 3pt shooter. If the point is to win games and bring in high quality talent, NAW is exactly that. You don't think Christie and Perry would be chomping at the bit getting to deploy so many perimeter defenders?

LaRavia is the biggest "unknown" of this bunch, but there's a ton to like in his profile. Some really exciting traits like being able to draw fouls, a real leap in shooting, an excellent wing passer, great size and feel for the game. Just another guy I think resonate with who and what Perry and Christie want this team to be; he's out there working his ass off and tough as nails.

That said, the Sacramento production took a massive dip from what he was doing with MEM. Does that give us a shot to keep him and get him a full off-season with us? Can only hope so, i'd love to see what he can do in a full-season with us
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I'm a fan of those guys if the price tag is right, of course.

A couple other guys that might be interesting to look at are Josh Minott and Guerschon Yabusele. I can't imagine either guy would cost very much but they could be some good buy low options (specifically Minott since he's still only 22 years old). Minott's measurements are...

Height w/ Shoes = 6'8.75"
Wingspan = 6'11.75"
Standing Reach = 8'11.5"
Weight = 197.2 lbs
Body Fat = 4.7%

And his per36 min stats dating back to his college days are...

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His advanced impact stats aren't that bad for a 22 year old either. If he can continue to improve his 3PT shot, I think he has a great chance of being an impact player. And considering he seems to be a pretty good free throw shooter already, that might be a decent gamble to make.
 
twslam07 said:
I'm a fan of those guys if the price tag is right, of course.

A couple other guys that might be interesting to look at are Josh Minott and Guerschon Yabusele. I can't imagine either guy would cost very much but they could be some good buy low options (specifically Minott since he's still only 22 years old). Minott's measurements are...

Height w/ Shoes = 6'8.75"
Wingspan = 6'11.75"
Standing Reach = 8'11.5"
Weight = 197.2 lbs
Body Fat = 4.7%

And his per36 min stats dating back to his college days are...

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His advanced impact stats aren't that bad for a 22 year old either. If he can continue to improve his 3PT shot, I think he has a great chance of being an impact player. And considering he seems to be a pretty good free throw shooter already, that might be a decent gamble to make.
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Minott is a great pull. Im out on Yabu though, that dude is BAD BAD on defense. Like one of the worst big defenders I've seen last season.
 
iowamcnabb said:
The good news is the flattened lottery odds no longer reward franchises for being intentionally bad in a competitive sport. Try to win and if you aren’t good enough you miss the playoffs and get a crack at a franchise changing player.
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Which if we trade Monk and Deebo for future FRPs and increase our odds I am fine with but why are we blocking our recent picks from playing time if we don't? I don't mind chasing an 8 seed but I do mind doing it in a way that doesn't actually grow the team.
 
When I visit the NBA FA thread and read about guys signing around the league I am perplexed why we'd give the full MLE to Schröder, it would be the most money he's made since his rookie extension and he's now 32.
 
pdxKingsFan said:
Which if we trade Monk and Deebo for future FRPs and increase our odds I am fine with but why are we blocking our recent picks from playing time if we don't? I don't mind chasing an 8 seed but I do mind doing it in a way that doesn't actually grow the team.
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For whatever reason the franchise doesn’t see Devin as an option. If it was up to me, we would give him the chance but maybe there are some behind the scenes stuff that we don’t know about. I’m hoping he really shows out in summer league. Heck, maybe he wins the job in training camp and a guy or two are cleared out of the rotation.
 
iowamcnabb said:
For whatever reason the franchise doesn’t see Devin as an option. If it was up to me, we would give him the chance but maybe there are some behind the scenes stuff that we don’t know about. I’m hoping he really shows out in summer league. Heck, maybe he wins the job in training camp and a guy or two are cleared out of the rotation.
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I'm not asking for him to start so much as to clear a path to actually give him minutes. Same with Nique even. If we put a bunch of guys making 3-5x their rookie contracts in front of them who all want to start but can't all start, how do we even find 12mpg for our two recent FRPs?

I just don't get it. I'm all in favor of trying to maintain a watchable product while rebuilding/reloading but this just feels like treading water. I know its early and we probably have to let the first wave of FAs sign to make some trades, but right now I don't like it. also need to see what the real numbers on Schröder are.
 
pdxKingsFan said:
I'm not asking for him to start so much as to clear a path to actually give him minutes. Same with Nique even. If we put a bunch of guys making 3-5x their rookie contracts in front of them who all want to start but can't all start, how do we even find 12mpg for our two recent FRPs?

I just don't get it. I'm all in favor of trying to maintain a watchable product while rebuilding/reloading but this just feels like treading water. I know its early and we probably have to let the first wave of FAs sign to make some trades, but right now I don't like it. also need to see what the real numbers on Schröder are.
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The only other angle here is maybe NBA teams are anticipating a bigger reliance on depth due to injuries and the increase in pace. I mentioned it in another thread but the Thunder played 8 guys listed at guard. Maybe we are going to see more 30 min nights for starters instead of 36-40.
 
The_Jamal said:
In addition, you sacrificed our team control to bring him on. So not only is he getting in the way of minutes for Carter and Keon, you now are playing him instead of really seeing what Carter and Keon can give you.

Dennis is absolutely fine as a bench piece for a good team. Like your 7th-8th man. But man, we are paying a HUGE cost for him when factoring everything in.
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2 years is finally a smart move from a Kings GM though. Back in the day this would have been a 4 year deal, lol. It has to be a about 4 months into the season tops before none of it matters anyway. If the Kings are going nowhere then it better be rebuild time and then Schroder is an easy wait out/expiring while providing depth piece.
 
iowamcnabb said:
For whatever reason the franchise doesn’t see Devin as an option. If it was up to me, we would give him the chance but maybe there are some behind the scenes stuff that we don’t know about. I’m hoping he really shows out in summer league. Heck, maybe he wins the job in training camp and a guy or two are cleared out of the rotation.
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It's definitely trying to appease Domas. He's not wanting to wait for young players to develop. If Devin wants it he'll take it. Yeah, lets see what summer league is like. As long as the deals are short this shouldn't hamper anything anyway. Keon might have a problem if things stay as is though because he's in a contract year so if he's playing behind Schroder and LaVine that might be tough.
 
iowamcnabb said:
Sure, I think my point was the forum has decided Shroder sucks (and probably almost no one has watched him play last year) while the fans of the team he was on want him back and playing minutes for a playoff team.
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How do the warriors fan feel? And Detroit fans want him back as a backup not starting over they’re lottery pick from a year ago
 
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