You make it sound like anyone can adjust to the speed of the game. Turn the dial, and voila! Obviously, as one who does have the practical knowledge of the game that you profess, you must have insight into what players can succeed in turning the dial and what players fail. So regale me with your knowledge, oh Telemachus. What exactly gives you the confidence that Queta can turn the dial where many others of his ilk have not? I'd really like to know how you discern this latent talent that isn't obvious to those without practical experience.
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Did you miss the part where I mentioned he has already shown that he can adjust? He made the adjustment by his third game in the G League. He was showing the same type of adjustments for the Kings in the final game of the season.
This is nothing new. Big men tend to take time to get up to speed in the NBA. Damien Jones started looking like a legitimate rotation player this season for the Kings. He is 26 and just finished his 6th season. Jakob Proeltl became a starter at center last season for SA and became more of an impact player this year. He is also 26 and just finished his sixth season. You don't give up on young talented big men if you have a choice. It may come back to bite you. Time will tell how good Queta will become, but giving up on him based on some limited playing time at the end of the season is short-sighted.
I see people wonder why teams like Miami, SA and Toronto seem to keep finding these players out of nowhere. It's because they show a great deal of patience allowing young players to develop. Not all of them pan out, but enough do to make their patience worthwhile.
This is nothing new. Big men tend to take time to get up to speed in the NBA. Damien Jones started looking like a legitimate rotation player this season for the Kings. He is 26 and just finished his 6th season. Jakob Proeltl became a starter at center last season for SA and became more of an impact player this year. He is also 26 and just finished his sixth season. You don't give up on young talented big men if you have a choice. It may come back to bite you. Time will tell how good Queta will become, but giving up on him based on some limited playing time at the end of the season is short-sighted.
I see people wonder why teams like Miami, SA and Toronto seem to keep finding these players out of nowhere. It's because they show a great deal of patience allowing young players to develop. Not all of them pan out, but enough do to make their patience worthwhile.
Yep. We had him playing for our G League team for 2 seasons I believe. We had zero roster spots and Vlade wouldn't clear one for us to sign him. Miami signed him during the season and next thing you know, he is playing important minutes for them in the playoffs.
That is one of the main reasons we have Rico Hines on our coaching staff now. I have also noticed that Monte is more than willing to cut a player to add one he thinks might be better.
That is one of the main reasons we have Rico Hines on our coaching staff now. I have also noticed that Monte is more than willing to cut a player to add one he thinks might be better.
Adjust to what? College ball? LOL. C'mon, you're smarter than that. Did you miss the part that there's a very big jump from college to the pros? You seem to have the notion that it's a foregone conclusion, that it's inevitable, that bigs are going to improve enough to be quality players in the NBA. All you have to do is have patience. Obviously that is not the case. Look at Bamba, who some were drooling over on draft day in 2018. He's got a freaking 7'10" wingspan. Orlando has had mucho patience. They spent a #6 pick on him. Where has it gotten them? Do they need to wait another four years for him to be a good center in the NBA? They passed on Sexton, the two Bridges, Knox and Shai Alexander. I'd give them an A for patience, but an F for their scouting insight into what his ceiling really is.
Did you actually READ what I wrote? He adjusted to the speed of the G League (that's NOT college ball, which I thought was self evident). He also adjusted to the NBA ( also not college) by the final game of the season. The problem was that they didn't give him enough playing time for us to get a good read on him.
For what it’s worth Laravia just posted the 3rd best Lane Agility Time and the 2nd best Shuttle Run. I’m not surprised. His footwork, especially on defense, is exceptional along with quick hands and instincts. Strong mentality too. There are a few guys every year that are unanimously underrated compared to where I have them and Laravia is at the top of the list (Malaki Branham being another). I really think he’s going to be a special and unique player in the NBA on both sides of the ball.
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Don't think his measurements are a surprise to anyone. He's always been listed at 6'3", and that's pretty much what he is in shoes, and the last time I checked, they do play in shoes. If Collin is going to make it in the league it will be because of his shooting ability. He's not a bad defender and he's a good ball handler. I see him going in the 2nd rd or going undrafted and getting a spot on a G-League team. I like him! He's a tough gritty player who always gives his all on the court.
If you think Queta looked awful in the G-League games, then either you never really watched any of his games, or you really know nothing about basketball development. I hate to be rude, but some of the stuff your saying is just plain nonsense. Of course players adjust to the speed of the game, and sometimes it takes a whole season for some. Then there are the one's that never do, but usually because they don't have the basketball IQ or the just don't have a feel for the game.
Queta didn't start playing basketball at age 6 or 7 like some. He came to the game late, and was still learning the game when he arrived at Utah St. So he's come a long way in a short time. That's one of the reasons I cut him some slack. Players don't come out of a cookie cutter. They're human beings and they all learn at a different rate of speed. Judging that there's only been one other player to make it in the NBA from Portugal, I think it's safe to assume that Portugal isn't loaded with basketball academies. Like a lot of young men there, he grew up playing soccer. It wasn't until he grew to 7 foot tall that he was influenced to take up the game of basketball.
Do I think he's ready to start, or even be the back up center on the King's? No, probably not, but I would like to see him on the parent club where he can actually get his feet wet playing against the top competition. Then lets see what he looks like after the end of the year. I'm tired of seeing players on our G-League team show promise, and then get rejected by the Kings. Players like Gabe Vincent who in my opinion, always played well whenever I saw him play. But even in Vincent's case, look how long it took him to arrive to where he is now. Even Kobe Bryant only averaged 6 pt's a game his first year in the NBA.
Queta didn't start playing basketball at age 6 or 7 like some. He came to the game late, and was still learning the game when he arrived at Utah St. So he's come a long way in a short time. That's one of the reasons I cut him some slack. Players don't come out of a cookie cutter. They're human beings and they all learn at a different rate of speed. Judging that there's only been one other player to make it in the NBA from Portugal, I think it's safe to assume that Portugal isn't loaded with basketball academies. Like a lot of young men there, he grew up playing soccer. It wasn't until he grew to 7 foot tall that he was influenced to take up the game of basketball.
Do I think he's ready to start, or even be the back up center on the King's? No, probably not, but I would like to see him on the parent club where he can actually get his feet wet playing against the top competition. Then lets see what he looks like after the end of the year. I'm tired of seeing players on our G-League team show promise, and then get rejected by the Kings. Players like Gabe Vincent who in my opinion, always played well whenever I saw him play. But even in Vincent's case, look how long it took him to arrive to where he is now. Even Kobe Bryant only averaged 6 pt's a game his first year in the NBA.
I didn't realize the Kings had the 49th pick as well.
Tankathon has us taking Jalen Williams at 37 but I don't see that happening anymore since he'll now go in the first round.
I'm liking Dalen Terry with the 37th pick and Keon Ellis with the 49th.
Terry has the 3rd biggest wingspan of the wings that measured at the combine. He also has real solid playmaking ability and a chance of being able to shoot. Ceiling may be Kyle Anderson type offensive production with more athleticism. Not as good defensively as Anderson but is still a solid defender who has a knack for breakaway steals.
Keon looks like Davion's brother defensively. Stays in front of his man with his chest and is one of the better stealers in college. Has better shooting percentages than Terry on more attempts but does not have Terry's playmaking ability. Elite reaction and recovery time on defense but is not very strong for his age. Can get hung up on screens easily.
If just one of these guys develops a shot, the Kings are looking good.
Tankathon has us taking Jalen Williams at 37 but I don't see that happening anymore since he'll now go in the first round.
I'm liking Dalen Terry with the 37th pick and Keon Ellis with the 49th.
Terry has the 3rd biggest wingspan of the wings that measured at the combine. He also has real solid playmaking ability and a chance of being able to shoot. Ceiling may be Kyle Anderson type offensive production with more athleticism. Not as good defensively as Anderson but is still a solid defender who has a knack for breakaway steals.
Keon looks like Davion's brother defensively. Stays in front of his man with his chest and is one of the better stealers in college. Has better shooting percentages than Terry on more attempts but does not have Terry's playmaking ability. Elite reaction and recovery time on defense but is not very strong for his age. Can get hung up on screens easily.
If just one of these guys develops a shot, the Kings are looking good.
Replying to a few people here, but talk out of Arizona is if Terry doesn't have a first round commit by June 1, he is going back to school.
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I didn't see him play in the G-league nor did I say I saw him play in the G league, so you're right on at least part. I'm talking about his putrid performance in the big league's, not the G league. Please have the topic sentence right, otherwise I'm very demotivated to read the rest.
Regarding the big club, if there is a wave of injuries and there is no choice in the matter, fine, he can fill in because they have no choice. As you say above he's probably not ready to be a back-up center on the Kings, much less a starting center. Glad we could agree!
Regarding the big club, if there is a wave of injuries and there is no choice in the matter, fine, he can fill in because they have no choice. As you say above he's probably not ready to be a back-up center on the Kings, much less a starting center. Glad we could agree!
