Trade worked for a while too until Ron Ron's inherent instability and our looming descent into a decade of rampant incompetence led us into the tank. But at the time it was made Ron actually had more game left than did Peja. Was almost an actual franchise player for a few years. Just obviously about the very most unstable near franchise player you could possibly try to build around.
What are you talking about? It's Peja stinking Stojakovic! I would hire him to do anything, anyplace, with anyone, any way he wanted whenever he wanted! It's Peja! He's like the Chuck Norris of the NBA; except Peja is the only man to ever defeat Chuck Norris in hand to hand combat!I love the idea of having Peja around, but what is he actually qualified to do in the front office?
I love the idea of having Peja around, but what is he actually qualified to do in the front office?
What are you talking about? It's Peja stinking Stojakovic! I would hire him to do anything, anyplace, with anyone, any way he wanted whenever he wanted! It's Peja! He's like the Chuck Norris of the NBA; except Peja is the only man to ever defeat Chuck Norris in hand to hand combat!
I totally feel this point, but the more I've been thinking about it the more I like having ex-NBA stars littered about the front office, and those execs probably don't do jack pace anyhow.
If mean if you are an NBA player - one of the world's supreme athletes - there is nothing wrong with having guys in charge of your organization who "feel ya" - who have been there done that, played 82 game schedules and playoff games, earned accolades. Try to build a cool culture and eventually we will be a "destination" for star FA's. I sure hope they are spiffing up that home locker room like nobody's business.
Peja has credibility - and he probably won't hurt anything. I think it will be fine if he takes some of Vivek's change to the bank.
The guy I'm really rooting for - to see him on the coaching staff or FO, is Doug Christie. Miles ahead of Bobby Jackson as far as I'm concerned. But there doesn't seem to be much of a campaign for him.
IMO, cronyism and waste of money if he is being hired for no other reason other than being Vlade's trusted friend. If he is qualified, then go Vlade. But if he is just about going to learn the unspecified job at the FO, then I'd rather Vlade hire someone with actual experience for now, or have Peja within the FO like an intern.
True dat.t can't be any worse than having Chris Mullin hanging around.
IMO, cronyism and waste of money if he is being hired for no other reason other than being Vlade's trusted friend. If he is qualified, then go Vlade. But if he is just about going to learn the unspecified job at the FO, then I'd rather Vlade hire someone with actual experience for now, or have Peja within the FO like an intern.
I understand the challenge of legitimate debate vs. groupthink; I would hope that someone like Peja or BJax would be an asset to debate as Vlade is unlikely to toss them out on their ear... but you never know.There's nothing wrong with bringing in people you trust, as long as you don't sacrifice competence in doing so. If bringing in people you trust mean bringing in people who always agree with you, you're sacrificing legitimate debate for groupthink.
Who cares about croneyism in the NBA? Not sure that when you are building a team that is effectively "Us vs. the world", which is how pro sports are set up, that bringing in people you like, know, and trust is a bad thing at all.
We got Rondo because of croneyism.
I actually posted this in a different thread, but it really should have been posted here:
When a new coach is hired, usually during the off-season, its expected that he'll clean house and bring in his own assistants. No one calls it cronyism. A new head coach is going to want people around him that he trusts, and that know what he expects. I don't see anything different about the hiring of a new GM, or president of operations. What ever title you want to give the position. Vivek's problem from the start, was that he did everything backwards. He went ahead and did the hiring that a GM usually does, and then hired the GM. He didn't do it just once, he did it twice. First with PDA, and then with Vlade. Of course in Vlade's case, he didn't have a lot of choice.
Obviously PDA wouldn't have hired Malone, since he did everything in his power to get him fired. None of that drama would have occurred had Vivek hired PDA first. It doesn't matter that we liked Malone, my point is we never would have had the chance to like or dislike him if Vivek had followed the norm. Then he went and hired Vlade in essentially the same role, but with a different title. And as Bricky stated, Vlade inherited a den of snakes, some hired by PDA, and some hired by Vivek. So what was he to do. He was the true outsider.
The answer of course is start weeding out who is loyal and whose not. So far it looks like Mike Bratz is the going to be the only holdover when the smoke clears. Personally, I don't have a problem with that, but of course the national media, is going to feed off any little thing that looks out of place in sacramento. I'm sure that Vlade knows this, will apply a little more sunscreen, and once done, probably take a well deserved vacation. As for hiring Peja. Yes, he's someone that Vlade trusts, so can you blame him? You get tired of looking over your shoulder all the time, never knowing where the next blow is coming from. I don't care what Peja's position will be. Hell, make him director of international scouting. Does it matter? So we have to buy one more roll around chair for the conference room. Big deal! As long as it brings stability to the franchise, I'm on board.
We, and by we, I'm speaking in general, can criticize Vlade. We can dissect his moves and hires. He''s fair game because of the position he holds. My advice to him, is to do it his way. When you get your chance to lead, you have to have a plan, and that plan should emphasis your agenda, whatever that may be. If your going to be successful or if your going to fail, you want to do it your way. It's hard, because believe me, your going to get a lot of advice from so called experienced people, and sometimes, it's bad advice. Orson Wells made Citizen Kane. It is lauded by some as the best movie of all time. When he directed that movie, he had no experience as a director, and he decided to go against the advice of every known expert in Hollywood. At the end of the day, you don't want to hear Frank Sinatra singing, I did his way!
Like it or not, my friend, one of your best posts ever, and there have been some good ones.I actually posted this in a different thread, but it really should have been posted here:
When a new coach is hired, usually during the off-season, its expected that he'll clean house and bring in his own assistants. No one calls it cronyism. A new head coach is going to want people around him that he trusts, and that know what he expects. I don't see anything different about the hiring of a new GM, or president of operations. What ever title you want to give the position. Vivek's problem from the start, was that he did everything backwards. He went ahead and did the hiring that a GM usually does, and then hired the GM. He didn't do it just once, he did it twice. First with PDA, and then with Vlade. Of course in Vlade's case, he didn't have a lot of choice.
Obviously PDA wouldn't have hired Malone, since he did everything in his power to get him fired. None of that drama would have occurred had Vivek hired PDA first. It doesn't matter that we liked Malone, my point is we never would have had the chance to like or dislike him if Vivek had followed the norm. Then he went and hired Vlade in essentially the same role, but with a different title. And as Bricky stated, Vlade inherited a den of snakes, some hired by PDA, and some hired by Vivek. So what was he to do. He was the true outsider.
The answer of course is start weeding out who is loyal and whose not. So far it looks like Mike Bratz is the going to be the only holdover when the smoke clears. Personally, I don't have a problem with that, but of course the national media, is going to feed off any little thing that looks out of place in sacramento. I'm sure that Vlade knows this, will apply a little more sunscreen, and once done, probably take a well deserved vacation. As for hiring Peja. Yes, he's someone that Vlade trusts, so can you blame him? You get tired of looking over your shoulder all the time, never knowing where the next blow is coming from. I don't care what Peja's position will be. Hell, make him director of international scouting. Does it matter? So we have to buy one more roll around chair for the conference room. Big deal! As long as it brings stability to the franchise, I'm on board.
We, and by we, I'm speaking in general, can criticize Vlade. We can dissect his moves and hires. He''s fair game because of the position he holds. My advice to him, is to do it his way. When you get your chance to lead, you have to have a plan, and that plan should emphasis your agenda, whatever that may be. If your going to be successful or if your going to fail, you want to do it your way. It's hard, because believe me, your going to get a lot of advice from so called experienced people, and sometimes, it's bad advice. Orson Wells made Citizen Kane. It is lauded by some as the best movie of all time. When he directed that movie, he had no experience as a director, and he decided to go against the advice of every known expert in Hollywood. At the end of the day, you don't want to hear Frank Sinatra singing, I did his way!
...The answer of course is start weeding out who is loyal and whose not. So far it looks like Mike Bratz is the going to be the only holdover when the smoke clears...