Section 101
All-Star
I think the second half eluded Westfail.
I think the second half eluded Westfail.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
Adelman likes experienced players. He's called a players coach, because unlike Gary St. Jean, he doesn't coach every minute of the game. He's not standing and screaming out plays, or telling players where to move on defense. In other words he trusts his players to do the right thing. And that can work when you have players with experience that have been around the block a few times. However, it doesn't work as well with young inexperienced players. Thats why Adelman struggled when he coached the Warriors. He had, for the most part, a very young team. Its also why players with potential, like Gerald Wallace didn't get much playing time under Adelman. I too screamed at my TV on occasion.
Adelman did play J. Will! But really, he had no other choice, and I can almost guarantee you that there was no one happier when J.Will was traded and Bibby was brought in, than Adelman. So upon reflection, I'm not so sure that Adelman would be the best choice for this team. I'am sure however, that he would do a better job than Westphal. I'm still a fan of Calapari's. I know he failed once already, but he wouldn't be the first college coach to fail the first time around, and be successful the second time. Besides, this is a young team, and he's very good with young players.
TehSwimGuy
Bench
Agreed. He was definitely the players coach. Though personally I think that I could see him recognizing that this IS a young team, and will need that guiding hand. I see him as not taking any of that crap that is stagnating the offense, and the hero mentality, and forcing them to practice moving the ball around.
At least someone who recognizes the importance of a system. A plan A, B, C.
It was easy with the Lakers because their defense sucked. We blew by them. But a defensive team like Portland, We got our pockets picked like n00bs in Italy.
Section 101
All-Star
Love the select memory people have of Adelman. He played who ever was the best players. Didnt matter how many years they were in the league. Yes he played JWill. He also started Wahad who was in his second year and played rookie Peja. He played rookie Hedo and a young Pollard claimed off waivers. He didn't play Wallace because Wallace wasnt ready !!! Plain and simple. If Wallace was ready he would have played.
Really? Did he see the Kings starters build a 10 point lead before we went small exceptionally early? Evans Thornton, and Salmons were holding the Portland starters under 40% shooting in their first shift before Westphall went to the bench. Even the Portland announcers were dumbfounded why Westphall went to his bench so soon.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
I've watched him with Minnesota this year, he actually does draw up plays on a regular basis. It's pretty interesting watching a Rick Adelman huddle compared to a Paul Westphal huddle, you should check it out some time. Just try not to break your head or the wall when you see it, hahaha.
Calipari's a gimmick coach. He wouldn't be right for this team and he's made his living on recruiting. He does however put his best players in a position to do what they do best. For instance, with Tyreke he ran exclusively draw and kick, but he excludes a lot of other players on the roster in the process.
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
He looks for different things in different players but he did indeed play his talent. Still, there is a reason he plays guys like Hayes and Miller because he knows things like setting good screens is primary to any consisten team offense.
well right now Adelman is starting Ridnour over Rubio and its rather dumb
He was not good with young players. To think he was good with youth is exactly selective memory. Tariq and JWill and Corliss all got what I liked to call the "token starter job". This is where Rick starts you, but yanks you quickly and doesn't play you much down the stretch. In the end, you end up with 10th guy in the rotation minutes, but you still started. It makes a player realize the coach doesn't have any real confidence in him and his role is one created to make him look pitied.
He was not good with young players. To think he was good with youth is exactly selective memory. Tariq and JWill and Corliss all got what I liked to call the "token starter job". This is where Rick starts you, but yanks you quickly and doesn't play you much down the stretch. In the end, you end up with 10th guy in the rotation minutes, but you still started. It makes a player realize the coach doesn't have any real confidence in him and his role is one created to make him look pitied.
TehSwimGuy
Bench
Lesser of two evils, in my eyes. At least it produced a consistent winning record. If we were going to dump him, we should at least have had an equal if not better coach in mind to replace him.
Telemachus
Starter
As I recall, Jason Williams started all 50 games his rookie season while averaging 36 mins a game. The next year, he started 81 of 81 games averaging 34 mins a game. Most fans felt that he was given too much free reign, not the other way around.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
Did you happen to see the "offense" that Tyreke and Thornton put up prior to Westphal's desperate attempt at small ball? How did that big lineup work out? Westphal had a choice: strychnine or cyanide. He chose strychnine.
OptimusRhyme
Jive Turkey
i'm usually not one to throw a coach under the bus. but seriously fire this guy. hire Sam Mitchell 2007 coach of the year. or anyone i dont care, Westphal is a nut.
Kings have no half court defense, no transition defense, terrible rotations, terrible passing, no defined roles, no offensive sets, no pick n rolls, too many isolations, rookie-rookie backcourt lineups?, ect ect ect. i could go on and on and on
please god get us a new coach, if we dont the players arent going to learn anything this year. Its pretty clear we arent going to making the playoffs like this. But I atleast want this damn team to grow some.
GET RID OF HIM PLEASE! lets start this damn petition.. This could hinder alot of our players if we dont do it now.
Kings have no half court defense, no transition defense, terrible rotations, terrible passing, no defined roles, no offensive sets, no pick n rolls, too many isolations, rookie-rookie backcourt lineups?, ect ect ect. i could go on and on and on
please god get us a new coach, if we dont the players arent going to learn anything this year. Its pretty clear we arent going to making the playoffs like this. But I atleast want this damn team to grow some.
GET RID OF HIM PLEASE! lets start this damn petition.. This could hinder alot of our players if we dont do it now.
LakersStink
G-League
Couldn't agree more. The worst part is that as long as Westfail has coached he hasn't learned anything. The team clearly needs to work on their FT's and yet he doesn't even emphasize this point at all. Westfail may be the worst coach in Norcal history IMO (tied with Chuck Bresnahan, D coord for the Raiders).
TehSwimGuy
Bench
Yup. I haven't seen any progress with the players. Maybe Reke's shot form. That's it. They all look like they are regressing, or staying put. No improvement.
Can't we just dump the Magoofs, get Burkle, actually spend some money on a good head coach?
Can't we just dump the Magoofs, get Burkle, actually spend some money on a good head coach?
Unfortunately, no coach on the planet would improve our free throw shooting after 1 practice. Of all the things you can blame him for, that is not one of them. At least not yet.