Official 'Please play Special K' thread

First of all, Kev is NOT a point guard. Secondly, FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN, Eddie House is NOT an NBA BASKETBALL PLAYER!!!!!!!!
In Canada, I think Kev dropped 37 on the Canadian National Team while being double and triple teamed. (Nash included) Actually, all through college, opponents of Western Carolina designed their gameplan with the mindset that, "If the CATAMOUNTS beat us, OK, but KEVIN MARTIN isn't going to!!!!!" He saw double teams, triple teams, triangles and two (with the two guarding him), he saw it all.
Oh, and did I mention, he was the second leading scorer in Division 1-A his soph. + jr. years. (His soph. year, Jason Conley led the nation in scoring while MISSING more shots than Kev TOOK)
I know the NBA is "a whole different ball game,' but given the opportunity, the diamond in the rough that is KEVIN MARTIN, will shine brighter than many imagine.
I just thank God that Kev has more patience than I and a lot of his fans do. One day when Kev gets on the court, he won't come off it........ Happens everywhere he goes.
 
hoodie said:
First of all, Kev is NOT a point guard. Secondly, FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN, Eddie House is NOT an NBA BASKETBALL PLAYER!!!!!!!!
In Canada, I think Kev dropped 37 on the Canadian National Team while being double and triple teamed. (Nash included) Actually, all through college, opponents of Western Carolina designed their gameplan with the mindset that, "If the CATAMOUNTS beat us, OK, but KEVIN MARTIN isn't going to!!!!!" He saw double teams, triple teams, triangles and two (with the two guarding him), he saw it all.
Oh, and did I mention, he was the second leading scorer in Division 1-A his soph. + jr. years. (His soph. year, Jason Conley led the nation in scoring while MISSING more shots than Kev TOOK)
I know the NBA is "a whole different ball game,' but given the opportunity, the diamond in the rough that is KEVIN MARTIN, will shine brighter than many imagine.
I just thank God that Kev has more patience than I and a lot of his fans do. One day when Kev gets on the court, he won't come off it........ Happens everywhere he goes.

Thats why I love this guy so much! He's so calm unlike most of the players out there.

To all the Special K haters: Check back in a couple years. I'll bet you'll regret what you say now. This kid's going to be BIG. Well he's big to us already :p But he's going to be one of the best developing guys in the NBA. From what hoodie and Proud Grannie says, Kevin seems to be the kind of guy who can and will work when he's put out there and give him a chance. So please Rick Adelman, play SPECIAL K!!!!

:D
 
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hoodie said:
First of all, Kev is NOT a point guard. Secondly, FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN, Eddie House is NOT an NBA BASKETBALL PLAYER!!!!!!!!
In Canada, I think Kev dropped 37 on the Canadian National Team while being double and triple teamed. (Nash included) Actually, all through college, opponents of Western Carolina designed their gameplan with the mindset that, "If the CATAMOUNTS beat us, OK, but KEVIN MARTIN isn't going to!!!!!" He saw double teams, triple teams, triangles and two (with the two guarding him), he saw it all.
Oh, and did I mention, he was the second leading scorer in Division 1-A his soph. + jr. years. (His soph. year, Jason Conley led the nation in scoring while MISSING more shots than Kev TOOK)
I know the NBA is "a whole different ball game,' but given the opportunity, the diamond in the rough that is KEVIN MARTIN, will shine brighter than many imagine.
I just thank God that Kev has more patience than I and a lot of his fans do. One day when Kev gets on the court, he won't come off it........ Happens everywhere he goes.

You know, hoodie ... You really should speak out more. Let us know what you really think.

;)

I'm just kidding with you. I haven't watched Kevin as much as you, of course, or even as much as Kingsgurl and 1kingzfan, but I do know that I've been really impressed both times I've seen him in person. Not just during games, but during shootaround and warm-up when he's always working with the coaches, or taking shots, or working with the coaches as he takes shots, talking to other players, etc. It's very clear that he's serious about this whole NBA thing. He's a student of the game and he always seems very hungry to learn more. That always impresses me.

His play in games has been equally impressive because he's working to improve and broaden his game every time he steps on the court. That's also something I really like to see because it's not automatic.

He'll have his day - and I think it will be sooner rather than later.

:D
 
KingKong said:
Gerald Wallace turned out alright for the Bobcats though :D

Not the same at all.

My reference to "one man's trash being another man's trash" was made in connection with the fact that we pretty much picked House out of the dumpster after he had been cut by another team.

Wallace was exposed to the expansion draft because we had to expose someone. Entirely different scenario.
 
We could do much worse from our third point guard than Eddie House. I tracked House through the first third of the season, since I like the Bobcats, and Bricklayer's right; he's not All-NBA, but he's a lot better than he's played so far in a Kings uniform.
 
AriesMar27 said:
rest peja and play martin..... thats my new answer to everything, since we got another shooter.... i'm sure that he can handle hassell and bowen for 8-10 minutes....
I don't agree with this part. Yes, I agree that Adelman needs to get Kevin Martin out there for more playing time, but not over the expense of having him sit out Peja. However, Kevin should get the nod over Eddie House.
 
Everyone compares Kevin to Christie, which isn't a bad thing, at all, but, from watching this kid play since well, let's not go back that far, it is my opinion that he will be the Peja of the future. All he needs is PT. This kid was 49% on three's in college/highschool and was always the "go to man" while, as my future son-in-law stated, being double/triple teamed. He didn't know what it was like to be guarded by one man. He is a tough compeditor, never backs off, but does what he does quietly and without "show". I commend him for being patient. I couldn't do it. I believe that attribute had to come from his paternal grandpa, Dallas. All the rest of us are, well, not patient. I have always told kev, "I am proud of what you have accomplished as a basketball player, but it can't compare to how proud I am of the person you are." He is the "best." Anyone who has the honor of talking with him for even a few seconds always says good things.
 
Proud Grannie said:
I have always told kev, "I am proud of what you have accomplished as a basketball player, but it can't compare to how proud I am of the person you are." He is the "best." Anyone who has the honor of talking with him for even a few seconds always says good things.

This is exactly what I was referring to when I mentioned in another thread, Grannie, that Kevin seems like a fine young man. He works hard and is respectful of others.

BTW - not only would I like the honor of talking with him for a "few seconds", but of meeting his family. That kid obviously comes from good stock.
 
While I do agree that Martin is a great player and will only continue to grow, I do not think that it is fair to be bashing House. I think that RA is just giving him a fair chance. He has only played a couple games so far, and although he has not done anything fantastic he has shown some good defense and effort. I didn't think that this message board was setup to bash Kings Players. Martin has proved to be very valuable and RA has been giving him minutes on the floor. One think you have to consider is how many new players RA has on the team right now, he is still testing out everyone to see how they fit. Give it another 10 games and if House is not cutting it I am sure he will be seeing more bench time.
 
Didn't mean to "BASH" anyone...We all have our opinions on players; that's just mine.
I don't think Shawn Bradley is an NBA player, either.
 
Just to clarify (although I thought I made this clear from my first post) I am NOT advocating Kevin playing PG, that's not his natural position. Our offense is such that we can run some stretches without a 'true' Point (and I don't really see House as a true point either) Brick articulated it pretty well, just getting him into the game in the minutes that are available when Bibby or Cat aren't on the floor. Mo is obviously going to play.
I'm not trying to bag on House. I do realize he isn't as bad as he has looked thus far. However, he is a temporary stop-gap, while I feel Kevin has a real future with us.
 
I don't like this kind of threads. It was coach decision and who knows what logic was behind this. I trust RA in this. He sees the players every day, not like any of us. Maybe Kevin was not ready. Who knows. But pleading to play the bench player you like in favour of another with no reason - it's just plain not right.
 
I think House needs more time on the court to find his place with the Kings. However, I do agree that Adelman could, and should, find five to ten minutes a game for Kevin. He has proven that he is a true asset to the Kings.
 
zip95843 said:
I don't like this kind of threads. It was coach decision and who knows what logic was behind this. I trust RA in this. He sees the players every day, not like any of us. Maybe Kevin was not ready. Who knows. But pleading to play the bench player you like in favour of another with no reason - it's just plain not right.

I beg to differ. ;) Some people here have been following Kevin through out his whole career. The reason why I don't really trust Rick anymore is because he has been known to let rookies play for a while, then just sit them on the bench.

For instance:

Gerald & Hedo were pretty good players, they had huge games, and a couple bad games. They both left, and Hedo gets 20+ points Gerald about 11+ points per game.

I'm really glad to see all this support for Special K, based on all his accomplishments I've heard, this guy is a hard-working guy that will play his hardest and goes out on the court regardless of what situation, and plays to his fullest.

-By supporting a single player to be played isn't a bad thing, its actually a great thing. I think I've proven my point. I like all the other bench guys on the team, but out of all of the ones who don't get the minutes they deserve, I think that Kevin has the most potential. He will get the job done, if given the chance to.
 
zip95843 said:
I don't like this kind of threads. It was coach decision and who knows what logic was behind this. I trust RA in this. He sees the players every day, not like any of us. Maybe Kevin was not ready. Who knows. But pleading to play the bench player you like in favour of another with no reason - it's just plain not right.

Um, Zip. It's not like Adelman is reading the board to get coaching advice, so I think we are safe on that one.;)
I trust Adelman as well. This thread wasn't meant to be a condemnation of House, or cast aspersions of doubt on Adelman's coaching decisions. It's merely a support Kevin thread, nothing more, nothing less. Sorry if you don't like those kinds of threads.
I don't want them to play him just because I like him, either. I think he needs to play to develop. House will not be here next year, Kevin will.
 
Eddie House is the worst player in the roster in my opinion. I take K over him anytime.
 
The Freak said:
The reason why I don't really trust Rick anymore is because he has been known to let rookies play for a while, then just sit them on the bench.

For instance:

Gerald & Hedo were pretty good players, they had huge games, and a couple bad games. They both left, and Hedo gets 20+ points Gerald about 11+ points per game.
I actually "trust" Adelman plenty.

The Kings just aren't focused on developing young talent. They haven't been since they started their run under Adelman. Stojakovic, Jason Williams, and Turkoglu were the only ones to get a lot of playing time, and they also happened to be the only ones picked in the top 20 of the draft. Williams and Turkoglu were both shipped off for better players.

The Kings have focused on trades to improve their team, and I'm ok with that. I don't see how providing more time developing any of those players would make them a better team now. Instead, they focused on the attainable goal of winning the championship. Until the Kings aren't a championship contender any more, or until Petrie forgets how to make the right trades, I'll be fine with Adelman's rotations and I personally won't complain about the guys at the end of the bench. I'm sure they'll get their chance eventually.
 
uolj said:
I actually "trust" Adelman plenty.

The Kings just aren't focused on developing young talent. They haven't been since they started their run under Adelman. Stojakovic, Jason Williams, and Turkoglu were the only ones to get a lot of playing time, and they also happened to be the only ones picked in the top 20 of the draft. Williams and Turkoglu were both shipped off for better players.

The Kings have focused on trades to improve their team, and I'm ok with that. I don't see how providing more time developing any of those players would make them a better team now. Instead, they focused on the attainable goal of winning the championship. Until the Kings aren't a championship contender any more, or until Petrie forgets how to make the right trades, I'll be fine with Adelman's rotations and I personally won't complain about the guys at the end of the bench. I'm sure they'll get their chance eventually.

Well yeah I know that, but If he wants to win games, he has to develop our younger players. What would happen if our guys would get all injured or fouled out? (God forbid it) Our rookies wouldn't have the experience needed to play against some of the teams. By allowing the bench players to get some minutes a game, they can gain more confidence if put in tight situations.
 
KG, don't take me wrong. I'm one of the supporters to play out bench more and it was concern for me when RA wasn't playing Evans and Martin earlier in the season. But still, I don't like the trend when fans wish one player to play more.
 
The Freak said:
Well yeah I know that, but If he wants to win games, he has to develop our younger players. What would happen if our guys would get all injured or fouled out? (God forbid it) Our rookies wouldn't have the experience needed to play against some of the teams. By allowing the bench players to get some minutes a game, they can gain more confidence if put in tight situations.
I understand that, but if the Kings have a rash of injuries, it isn't very likely that the backups will be able to take them all the way no matter how much experience they get. Even one major injury could doom this team. I doubt that playing the deep bench more would have made a difference in any of the last few years.

Adelman plays 7-9 guys regularly. I'm generally fine with that. If you are playing for a championship now, I think it's better to find some guys you think can do the job and give them the experience and practice together. Injuries during the season are inevitable, and the deeper bench guys will get minutes in those situations. That is what is happening now, and as usual when Adelman's deep bench guys get big minutes, they produce. That's all I really want from them. I don't think there's a need for more.
 
ABSOLUTELY !!!!!! I LOVE Maurice Evans ! What a find !!!
Terrible problem to have all this talent, huh?
 
And remember - Bobby's on the IL. When he's able to come back, there are going to be some interesting discussions going on...

I LOVE THIS TEAM!

And, as Hoodie said, "Terrible problem to have all this talent."

;)
 
I am officially on the play Special k bandwagon. I think we should try him out as a backup to Bibby.
 
Once agian why House ?!! Trust me we dont need PG in at all time since our Bigmen know how to pass , and with the addition of Mobley , we add another solid passer ... PLAY SPECIAL K !!!
 
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